I HATE APPLE

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iOS mail is still a bit fucked. slow to update, slow to retrieve, slow to display contents.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 13 December 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link

anybody having problems with itunes screen redraws after a mojave upgrade? if i delete several highlighted items in a playlist the new display of the playlist doesn't update all at once, only line-by-line as i scroll past now-deleted items.

― j., Friday, October 12, 2018 1:25 PM (one year ago)

can't believe this is still fucked in the music app. straight up item selection DOES NOT SELECT WHAT THE SCREEN SAYS IT DOES like 1/10 or 2/10 times

j., Friday, 13 December 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link

Tracer I don’t know if this would work for you but the outlook iOS app is bizarrely excellent.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 14 December 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link

wow you're right. do you use "focused inbox"? I'm skeptical. otherwise it's brilliant. hilariously it works for my own imap account but not for my work’s.... exchange account.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 15 December 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

which is weird because i have an exchange account already set up in my iOS account settings. i should be able to just point it at that. but even without that this is good. i’m switched!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 15 December 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

Yeah I would totally use Outlook but my work IT doesn’t support it (even though we use Exchange too).

DJI, Sunday, 15 December 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

i don't use focused inbox but i don't actually get a lot of email that doesn't get filtered by gmail rules. (outlook ios also works very well for gmail's fake imap)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 December 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

i first found out it was good from this thread which calls the modern microsoft the ikea to apple's west elm which is otm

Microsoft Outlook for iOS added this RSVP widget that pops up above emails in Inbox view and archives them when done. pic.twitter.com/QuiZ8KdGgS

— Paul Ford (@ftrain) October 9, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 December 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

It does send everything via China iirc

stet, Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

i’m using my own mailserver so i don’t think so?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link

That was what my work told me when I asked why they didn’t allow it - apparently their servers poll your server and ingest the mail to do stuff like search etc.

stet, Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:25 (four years ago) link

ahhhh. for exchange i accounts i take it. at a certain corporation. i see!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:48 (four years ago) link

Photos seems incapable of keeping my place in my library (when going through photos from a year ago) when I leave the app for a minute or so. It resets to my most recent shots, so I have go back and find where I was

calstars, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 01:39 (four years ago) link

Probably due to various security widgets, my work iPhone and my personal iPhone handle PDF links very differently, regardless of what browser I’m using.
This makes it a pain in the ass when gathering receipts for business trip reimbursements. The ultimate first world problem

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 04:26 (four years ago) link

I love Outlook for iOS, but it won't interact with the calendar that's in my phone. It wants to create events in some nonexistent Outlook calendar. Booooo. So close! (Also its search is terrible.) I really want to use this thing but those are dealbreakers. It's a shame iOS Mail has become such a dog with multiple accounts. I never used to get aggravated about mail on my phone!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 December 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link

iOS Outlook can't access your iCloud calendar?

Nhex, Monday, 30 December 2019 03:01 (four years ago) link

Maybe I’m doing something wrong?

I don’t use my iCloud account for email (not even sure what my iCloud email address is) so I haven’t added it to Outlook. Maybe I have to?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 December 2019 09:18 (four years ago) link

OK I figured out my iCloud email address. Created an app-specific password by logging into iCloud and generating it, then going back into my phone and entering that. Quit Outlook, restarted and it works. Can't figure out how to turn off my iCloud email but it's not a big deal as I don't receive anything on that account. Search still sucks though! If it actually worked this would pretty much be perfect.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 December 2019 11:29 (four years ago) link

i find it odd that Outlook can’t just hook into the settings that are already set up at system level. it’s like it’s just not plumbed in. Search is the same. isn’t this the sort of thing that Microsoft got keelhauled for in the late 90s with Internet Explorer? this feels like a much more egregious abuse of OS defaults tbrr.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 December 2019 12:29 (four years ago) link

yeah I had to help a friend of my parents' yesterday with trying to install Chrome on her new hp laptop, and I learned that the laptop was present to windows 10 "s mode" which meant the only usable browser was something called edge (apparently a new take on IE) and even this elderly woman was like "this is bullshit". turning that s mode off wasn't that hard but it certainly wasn't transparent and it took my dumb help at 7km away to get it done.

I'm open to thinking microsoft can make good software but dang.

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 30 December 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link

well in my case it’s Apple who seem to have locked MSFT out of the settings which have already been perfectly entered into the system. msft made/bought a great little email program which is hamstrung by the OS.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 December 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link

yeah I understand the comparison though I dunno what's really going on between the os and the app there, like, maybe the app is trying to do something in a weird way and the developers were obstinate in not doing it in the standard os way? I dunno, I'm fine with the regular mail apps on both phone and desktop so I've never looked at alternatives

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 30 December 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link

Well I was too until the most recent iOS update. Maybe it just affects multiple accounts, I dunno.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 December 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link

I have multiple accounts but no problems. I don’t know if my uni account is an exchange account, though

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 30 December 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

pretty sure Outlook’s calendar is sandboxed to the app and to use iOS’s own built in calendar app to access that info, you’ll need to sync it separately in Passwords & Accounts. Same as Google’s calendar app.

beard papa, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 03:17 (four years ago) link

upgraded to catalina, seemed fine, and I like the slimmed down Music app, however, it doesn't seem to like me adding my own files to my itunes library and uploading them to icloud library. no easy way to force it to do this either. anyone else have this issue? I had to remove a bunch of things and re-add them and then it started uploading them, but it didn't do everything. completely annoying.

akm, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 03:54 (four years ago) link

" It wants to create events in some nonexistent Outlook calendar. " There is a calendar in Outlook, can you not find it? that's weird.

I use outlook on my phone as well for work stuff and it's more or less ok; actually preferable to adding my exchange account and using the iOS mail app which I hate (I use gmail app for my personal email).

akm, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 03:56 (four years ago) link

the outlook app is very much meant to be paired with an exchange server and doing so with gmail or w/e means messing with email and calendar separately. I think the extant apps that do email plus calendar on the side do treat it as a side thing and just rely on the OS calendaring but Microsoft approached it differently because.. use exchange, right?

babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 06:11 (four years ago) link

the outlook app is very much meant to be paired with an exchange server and doing so with gmail or w/e means messing with email and calendar separately. I think the extant apps that do email plus calendar on the side do treat it as a side thing and just rely on the OS calendaring but Microsoft approached it differently because.. use exchange, right?

babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 06:11 (four years ago) link

No there’s no default calendar in Outlook if you’re just using an IMAP email account.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 10:27 (four years ago) link

ah ha got it.

akm, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link

how do I get MP3s onto iphone when I don't have a wire to connect my iphone to my computer

||||||||, Sunday, 5 January 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

could add to dropbox from mac and then download on phone maybe

||||||||, Sunday, 5 January 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

Airdrop?

Miami weisse (WmC), Sunday, 5 January 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link

that's a whole other issue (no iOS devices found via airdrop on new mac for some reason)...

||||||||, Sunday, 5 January 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link

email them to yourself : )

j., Sunday, 5 January 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link

if you have a mac you can sync itunes wirelessly (don’t know about apple music since my mac doesn’t support catalina lol)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 5 January 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link

I still use an archaic version of iTunes since my MBP doesnt support Catalina either. Wireless sync seems a bit random. New stuff added to teh library automatically appears but my Smart Playlists don't update automatically on the phone (seems i need to delete the playlist before adding it again to get it updated). Urgh

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 11:25 (four years ago) link

settled for syncing to icloud drive and then accessing on phone via files.app

||||||||, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 12:06 (four years ago) link

The new Music app is a complete fucking piece of shit

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link

what are we now, ios 13? how many years of cloud services? my iphone and ipad STILL won’t sync messages. from the same species that put a truck on mars.

times 牛肉麵 (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 08:01 (four years ago) link

The iCloud syncing was faked.

Alba, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 11:21 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Apple is so fucking disingenuous on this. "Changing cables will cause enormous e-waste" from the company that does all-new dongles every 3 years, that ditched the dock connector, and currently has a joint USB-C/Lightning approach that makes no sense.

stet, Friday, 31 January 2020 15:50 (four years ago) link

what are we now, ios 13? how many years of cloud services? my iphone and ipad STILL won’t sync messages. from the same species that put a truck on mars.


This ^^

I'm currently trying to get safari bookmarks to start syncing again between my MBP & SE via iCloud. Apple's "we don't give a shit" is clear in their help page for the issue, which asks you to go through a series of steps checking each time to see if the problem has been resolved.

The final step? Restart your device.

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Saturday, 1 February 2020 07:54 (four years ago) link

my iphone xr keeps falling off where i put it. i know this sounds ridiculous but it’s got serious suicidal tendencies even when placed in what i consider relative safety. i have not had this problem with any other phone.

Fizzles, Saturday, 1 February 2020 08:26 (four years ago) link

I'm tired of getting YOUR ICLOUD IS ALMOST FULL ALERT ALERT ALERT START PAYING NOW messages because something turned on photo uploads or something again and a single phone backup fills up 80% of the space to start with. I don't want/need any of the stupid memes my friends and I send to each other synced to the cloud, fuckos.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 1 February 2020 08:56 (four years ago) link

My SE won’t back up to iTunes any more because of an “unknown error”.

I’ve tried all the things. None of them work. My Mac is too old for Catalina so I wouldn’t be surprised if this is one of those things that just gets.. abandoned.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 February 2020 09:21 (four years ago) link

I did finally manage to do a partial backup to iCloud, through the phone alone, which gives me some peace of mind at least. But I always liked having a “full” backup on the computer.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 February 2020 09:23 (four years ago) link

is there any way to change the metadata of multiple songs - not on the same album - at once in apple music? It doesn't even look like you can select multiple tracks.

Fizzles, Saturday, 1 February 2020 11:21 (four years ago) link


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