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There is hope: Boris Johnson’s big majority could unleash the social liberal within | Simon Jenkins https://t.co/ltsGksBNbC

— The Guardian (@guardian) December 13, 2019

Simon Jenkins apparently agrees with my mother. This is potentially the implication in the Times endorsement too - not that Johnson is too right-wing to admit what his policies are to the electorate (which was my read of it) but he’s too liberal to let on. Chris Hope’s Telegraph piece is already talking about a major shift to the centre and comparisons with Blair. It seems completely mad but I have long suspected that a lot of the people who voted for him in the mayoral election have basically convinced themselves that it’s true.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 13 December 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

Yes because Boris is a consistent political beast who has just been concealing his true colours to win the election.

pomenitul, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link

I don't think Pidcock would have been the best idea for leadership candidate tbh. Not saying the pics/tweets of her endorsing Chris Williamson are the complete measure of her but others definitely would.

calzino, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link

He doesn’t believe in anything. He’ll do what he has to regardless of whether it’s consistent or not.

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link

I'm sure I'm not the first to point this out, but at national vote share level, this is *not* a Labour to Tory swing. It's Labour to Lib-Dem and Brexit Party. The *Green* vote increased in absolute numbers by almost as much as the Tory vote. pic.twitter.com/0JaDPE4jMY

— Jo Michell (@JoMicheII) December 13, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

Precisely. Belief in anything else about his character is… misguided, to say the least.

xp

pomenitul, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

No, I wouldn't have had Pidcock either and she couldn't hold on to her seat anyway.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

I think that kind of helps him, tbh. Spend a whole campaign making claims about the beliefs of a man who quite openly has none and you’re arguing with smoke.

Xp

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 13 December 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link

Should have gone harder on the character stuff but it’s too late now.

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link

For sure. It's just that voting for the flesh-and-blood avatar of a Rorschach test doesn't strike me as a brilliant democratic move but what do I know?

xp

pomenitul, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link

Cameron didn't believe in anything either fwiw.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 13:41 (four years ago) link

Just read that Gary Younge piece. Good stuff.

pomenitul, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

It is absolutely wild that the Tory vote only went up 1.2%. That's a figure worth remembering.

Simon H., Friday, 13 December 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

FPTP ftw, that most venerable of cultural exports to the Empire's ex-colonies.

pomenitul, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:50 (four years ago) link

So we're still waiting for St. Ives right? Seeing as the LDs were useless everywhere I assume this stays blue too.

nashwan, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

There are many things that need to change in the Labour Party. Let’s start with something simple: there are no ‘right wingers’, ‘neo cons’, or ‘Tories’ in the Labour Party. Nor are there ‘slugs’ or ‘melts’. Let’s deliver kinder, gentler politics for real this time.

— Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) December 13, 2019

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link

*hard stare*

Receive Your Simulated Fluids Before The End of The Year! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 13 December 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

Interesting on how the hatred of Corbyn took a while to take hold.

How did the demonization of Corbyn have such a strong effect in 2019 but not in 2017? Although on the face of it that demonization has been raw and relentless, actually it has only circled around the key charge, never making it explicit,... 4/

— Luke Pagarani (@LukePagarani) December 13, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

this feels crushingly otm

... so it has taken four years for low engagement voters to absorb it fully. The real charge against Corbyn is that he fundamentally believes that British/white lives are of equal value with the lives of others. 5/

— Luke Pagarani (@LukePagarani) December 13, 2019

Receive Your Simulated Fluids Before The End of The Year! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 13 December 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

The cenotaph. Gerry Adams. Prosecutions of historic crimes in N.I. Laying wreaths in foreign cemeteries. Poppies. Diane Abbott. Pushing the button. Watching the Queen at Christmas. 7/

— Luke Pagarani (@LukePagarani) December 13, 2019

I feel like I have been screaming some of this for years

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

it's a good thread, by which i mean it's extremely depressing

Receive Your Simulated Fluids Before The End of The Year! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 13 December 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link

Boris had people at his count chanting “no surrender”

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link

It is absolutely wild that the Tory vote only went up 1.2%. That's a figure worth remembering.

The party that made the biggest advance, percentage-wise, was ... the Lib Dems!

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

jo swindon we need u now more than ever

Receive Your Simulated Fluids Before The End of The Year! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 13 December 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

uh-oh

I can this morning announce that as government advisor on antisemitism that I will be instigating an investigation this January into the role of the Canary and other websites in the growth of antisemitism in the United Kingdom. https://t.co/e76OcSydZm

— John Mann (@LordJohnMann) December 13, 2019

Receive Your Simulated Fluids Before The End of The Year! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 13 December 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link

How can one pick a side between Lord Mann and the fucking Canary!! Fuck!

I was thinking perhaps the seeing the end of the trying-to-lie-more-than-tories Swinson LibDems might cheer me up a bit if the result was absolutely terrible. But it is has only delivered a wee morsel of grim satisfaction. Still pretty much winded from that gut punch of the exit poll last night. The weather is fucking horrible as well.

calzino, Friday, 13 December 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELrOa__XUAE8ME8?format=png&name=large

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

The issue is distribution as much as that breakdown

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link

by the time the cohort has aged away from power it'll be too late for the climate, fuck everything.

stet, Friday, 13 December 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

The world itself will change, and the people in it will need to adapt to survive. The result of this election doesn't change that. Even if Labour had won it.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

Something tells me a lot of you need cheering up, so here you go (even though I can already feel the stick I'm going to get!)...

Six reasons for the left to be cheerful https://t.co/Zh8LHchmQz

— Tom Clark (@prospect_clark) December 13, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

sorry everyone :(

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 December 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

The world itself will change, and the people in it will need to adapt to survive. The result of this election doesn't change that. Even if Labour had won it.


a comprehensive green new deal, like the one labour was offering, would have put the country in a much better position to adapt, though

Receive Your Simulated Fluids Before The End of The Year! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 13 December 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

huh that was meant to quote the previous post, sorry

stet, Friday, 13 December 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

I dread to think - but what's the tory's climate change plan?

Graham Kendrick Lamar (cajunsunday), Friday, 13 December 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

it got one mention on page 72 of the manifesto, so I think the real answer is "frack till it hurts then salve the wounds with coal"

stet, Friday, 13 December 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

What Tory climate change plan?

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

Priorities priorities but also who's the Commons Daddio now that Clarke and Skinner are gone?

nashwan, Friday, 13 December 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

If it’s not Bill Cash, it should be.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 13 December 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link

I dread to think - but what's the tory's climate change plan?


machine-gun climate refugees at dover iirc

Receive Your Simulated Fluids Before The End of The Year! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 13 December 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

Tory climate change plan = do whatever sinister shadowy interests want, cover up with meaningless bluster. Same as their plan for everything else.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 December 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

I did around 120 hours of canvassing in London, Bedford and Milton Keynes. I didn’t expect this result but here’s how I can make sense of it from what I encountered on the doorstep. 1/

— Luke Pagarani (@LukePagarani) December 13, 2019

Simon H., Friday, 13 December 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

oh sorry I see some of this was posted earlier

Simon H., Friday, 13 December 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

Xps, Peter Bottomley apparently.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 13 December 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

climate change will basically be ethnic cleansing on a global scale and i do not expect the tories to give one single fuck about it

one nation under a gloom (NickB), Friday, 13 December 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

Mr. Personality himself. (xp)

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

I dread to think - but what's the tory's climate change plan?

machine-gun climate refugees at dover iirc

More realistically, take a look at what the US are doing - a network of concentration camps already being set up to detain climate change refugees, for example - and do the same. Remember that scene at Dover near the end of Children Of Men? That kind of thing. While scrapping over the spoils of newly-uncovered fossil fuels in the arctic, uncovered by climate change no less. Plus fracking. And blaming the resultant Armageddon on refugees.

AMM stands for Axe-Murdering Motherfuckers (Matt #2), Friday, 13 December 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link

climate change will basically be ethnic cleansing on a global scale and i do not expect the tories to give one single fuck about it

― one nation under a gloom (NickB), Friday, 13 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Australia RIP

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link


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