US Politics, December 2019: Profound procedural deficiencies

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sic otm

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:04 (four years ago) link

If Trump tries to avoid debates, the Democrat would be a fool if they refuse to ruthlessly mock and shame Trump around the clock for wimping out.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:09 (four years ago) link

"I am holding right here Trump's diapers!"

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:10 (four years ago) link

I want Trump to miss out on the debates because he's too busy being deceased.

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:12 (four years ago) link

he'll still be tweeting

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:13 (four years ago) link

irl lol, followed by fictional wracking sobs

insecurity bear (sic), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

He will be taxidermied and permanently seated on a throne at his own theme park in Branson, MO

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:17 (four years ago) link

Trump will not take part in debates because he is increasingly unable to even simulate sentences (yesterday he was having trouble even making it to the end of words), and his past temperamental & intellectual disposition against listening & substantially responding to someone else's words is now a complete neurological inability. He also does not seem able to stand and walk consistently, let alone roam the stage like a threatening wildebeest, as in 2016. He, or/and his handlers, are becoming aware of this and know that exposing his decline will damage his prospects. For these reasons, as well as the opportunity to bait him for cowardice, absolutely no candidate should let him off the hook of publicly making the choice himself.

― insecurity bear (sic),

otm. Obama insisting on debating McCain after the September was decisive.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:20 (four years ago) link

the last part's otm. but is it a fact that he's rapidly declining and his handlers are becoming aware etc? don't get me wrong, he seems like he's dumb as shit and is the dumbest fucking person in the universe, but he's pretty much seemed that way to me for a long time. i guess he does seem less energetic but what does he do right now that requires fast movements? when i catch clips of him at rallies he seems pretty much the same. is he really succumbing to physical collapse before our eyes? i don't dismiss it, these kinds of changes can be hard to notice when they take place over months and years

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:32 (four years ago) link

kinda with you on that one, idk how much of it is real and how much of it is a misperception due to our fatigue with the asshole.

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:33 (four years ago) link

on the other hand y'all are nuts. Of COURSE he's going to debate -- what, and be called a loser? Ronald Reagan fucking debated twice even when it was obvious he had wilted caesar salad for a brain.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link

mmm caesar salad

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link

I'll be on @seanhannity 2nite @FoxNews at 9pm ET and will explain how @realDonaldTrump will be eligible for a 3rd term due to the illegal attempts by Comey, Dems, and media , et al attempting to oust him as @POTUS so that's why I was named to head up the 2024 re-election.

— Gov. Mike Huckabee (@GovMikeHuckabee) December 12, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:38 (four years ago) link

He’s not giving up a chance to be on TV. He’ll debate—mark my words.

treeship., Friday, 13 December 2019 02:38 (four years ago) link

Also—while he has declined—he is not as infirm as I would hope. At the rallies he seems pretty energized, and all he does at the debates is repeat his stupid talking points in a loud, offensive way.

treeship., Friday, 13 December 2019 02:39 (four years ago) link

uh did huck just end that sentence with "so that's why I was named to head up the 2024 re-election"?

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:47 (four years ago) link

full disclosure, my office christmas party was earlier, i got a little wasted and headed home early, but i'm reading these words:

"so that's why I was named to head up the 2024 re-election"

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link

the tweeters are suggesting this was meant as a troll tweet, cos that's what life is, owning people who have the audacity to care about things

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:50 (four years ago) link

his tweet just before that was

Greatly honored to be asked to chair @realDonaldTrump re-election campaign for @POTUS in 2024. Gives me lots of time to plan! By then the Dems wil no longer be a political party in America, replaced by the New Whig Party.

— Gov. Mike Huckabee (@GovMikeHuckabee) December 12, 2019

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:51 (four years ago) link

sorry - and his tweet before that was

The basis for impeachment was found on arena floor @LasVegasNFR and there was more bullSchiff from House Dems than the entire rodeo. pic.twitter.com/jlU9AJVhr1

— Gov. Mike Huckabee (@GovMikeHuckabee) December 12, 2019

can someone confirm that we are NOT in a simulation because hoooooooly shit

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:52 (four years ago) link

i don't understand why i drink 2 beers and a whisky and suddenly it becomes clear that mike huckabee is tripping balls

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link

Huh,

Dems Veronica Escobar and Jackson Lee purposely misquoted my call. I said I want you to do us (our Country!) a favor, not me a favor. They know that but decided to LIE in order to make a fraudulent point! Very sad.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 12, 2019

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link

I scoured Twitter for posts about what happened on the Hannity show tonight (cos fuck watching it), and he did actually appear, but stated he was joking about it.

though you wonder what percent is joke, what percent is intentionally stoking fires

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:56 (four years ago) link

they did actually misquote his call by omitting a word. on the scale of transgressions, it's a mere raindrop compared to the torrential downpour Trump's responsible for in that arena

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:57 (four years ago) link

remember when hannity appeared on trump with stage and was sharply reprimanded by fox execs? boooooooy you better believe he felt bad after that!!!

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:58 (four years ago) link

they did actually misquote his call by omitting a word

did they? which word, in which sentence? i missed this.

but even if it is truly "us" vs "me", as trump suggests, that means that what he actually said was "i want you to do the country a favor by investigating joe biden, one of my political opponents, in exchange for money", rather than "i want you to do me a favor by investigating joe biden, one of my political opponents, in exchange for money". i may be tripping balls here but it seems like he's a treasonous motherfucker in either transcription

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:00 (four years ago) link

if Hannity were to have a stroke and die, who would be the next Fox anchor to carry Trump's water?

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:00 (four years ago) link

it was "do us a favor", they quoted it as "do a favor" or "do me a favor" or something.

it's a nothingburger but of course that's what he's focused on

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:01 (four years ago) link

how does this moment even get captured, in history? is someone keeping track of this shit any more? jfc

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:04 (four years ago) link

it’s all right here km

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:07 (four years ago) link

if Hannity were to have a stroke and die, who would be the next Fox anchor to carry Trump's water?

https://thedailybanter.com/.image/t_share/MTU4NzIxODE2MTg4MTY3NzU0/tucker-carlson-f-4.jpg

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:17 (four years ago) link

This is about as perfect a summation as you can get.

House Dems: Trump pressured a foreign government to target an American citizen for political gain.

Jim Jordan: Those are not the facts.

My response: Let’s actually go through the facts. pic.twitter.com/quacTD25re

— Hakeem Jeffries (@RepJeffries) December 12, 2019

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:18 (four years ago) link

I think I'm catching fumes from what our poor friends in the UK are going through tonight because like I just don't even have the tiniest sense of humor about these nihilistic motherfuckers rn. And anyone who gives them the slightest bit of slack needs to get fucked.

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:20 (four years ago) link

tucker carlson's mouth looks like one of the singing pieces of fruit on cookie monster's "healthy foods" video

xxp

peloton for the painfully alone (m bison), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link

This impeachment reminds Louis Gohmert of the trial of Socrates. Also it’s a Stalinesque proceeding. Also: Hillary.

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:27 (four years ago) link

It doesn't remind me nearly enough of the trial of Socrates.

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:29 (four years ago) link

I prefer the guillotine over hemlock

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:30 (four years ago) link

if it remotely resembled the trial of socrates it would be fucking amazing

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:31 (four years ago) link

I keep thinking of the movie Embrace of the Serpent, where the main characters go on an expedition in 1909 and come across a Catholic Mission. And it's brutal, run by a sadistic, asshole priest, but at the core, it at least resembles Catholicism. and then they come back to the same place a little over 30 years later, and now the people of the mission seem to claim they're Christians, but the mission is run by a crazy Brazilian guy who thinks he's the Messiah. the population of the mission has morphed drastically into a crazy, distorted approximation of the previous Catholic mission, but they insist they're Christians.

that is what I think about every time I run into a conservative Christian who claims they are an "insignificant being, made perfect by the love of Christ" out of one side of their mouth. and then call women "cunts" and talk about executing Muslims.

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:48 (four years ago) link

they could all use some ayahuasca

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 13 December 2019 04:01 (four years ago) link

but is it a fact that he's rapidly declining and his handlers are becoming aware etc? ... i guess he does seem less energetic but what does he do right now that requires fast movements? when i catch clips of him at rallies he seems pretty much the same. is he really succumbing to physical collapse before our eyes?

He's not golfing anymore. They've had him come out of the bottom of planes so he only has half a staircase to climb down, and Melania holding his hand on the other side while he clings to railings. He has spaced out in public and stood still, swaying, until someone nudges him to move again. At the rallies, he's getting sweatier faster, and clinging to the podium nearly the whole time, no swaggering or gesturing in the manner of even two years ago. Plus there's the back brace / possible diaper situation I've noted before.

(And since the incident where he asked the girl who just told him her parents had been murdered "and where are they now?," any White House photo op I've seen has had him sitting down while the supplicants have to stand beside him -- but that might not be new, I just noticed it for the first time then due to the extremely weird staging of that extremely horrifying conversation. Feel like it's been a while since he's been filmed magnaminously sweeping into a room to greet waiting dignitaries, or to present a pile of hamberders to female athletes or w/e too, but it's just an impression and wouldn't be a definite indicator of anything.)

insecurity bear (sic), Friday, 13 December 2019 04:52 (four years ago) link

Dear god, how had I forgotten 'hamberders'

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Friday, 13 December 2019 04:55 (four years ago) link

While I'm sure they'll cover as much as possible to make him seem competent to stand again, rather than lose the idiot base, replacing Pence as running mate would be a massive tell that his handlers and Mitch & Lindsay know most of the air is out of the balloon.

insecurity bear (sic), Friday, 13 December 2019 04:56 (four years ago) link

Great post / username / login name triple combo btw, OL.

insecurity bear (sic), Friday, 13 December 2019 04:58 (four years ago) link

Great post / username / login name triple combo btw, OL.


This is why I rarely post anymore, I want to say something clever and then I remind myself that Old Lunch is in the same time zone as me

El Tomboto, Friday, 13 December 2019 05:02 (four years ago) link

from CNN:

If the Labour Party’s election night goes as disastrously as initial results are indicating, the Democratic Party may see a cautionary tale for the 2020 presidential race.

Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn took his party way to the left, leaving the more moderate ground where many voters feel most comfortable, including some in his own party and outside. He promised revolutionary change, a fundamental overhaul of society, heavy new taxes on the rich and a far bigger role for the state in the economy. Sound familiar?

oh jesus christ stfu

Dingle Kringle (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 December 2019 05:05 (four years ago) link

xps - Because replacing Pence would be a massive tell, it probably won't happen.

Of course, if Trump were to die any time before the election, the GOP would be well and truly fucked. If he runs, wins, and dies right after the electoral college vote is finalized, the GOP would just carry on, secure in their holding the White House, even if it's the idiot cipher Pence who sits in the Big Chair.

The main rule seems to be to grab at power the best way you can, grab as much as you can, grab it as soon as you can, hold it as long as you can, and figure out the details as you go.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 13 December 2019 05:08 (four years ago) link

why I rarely post anymore


relatively

El Tomboto, Friday, 13 December 2019 05:13 (four years ago) link

xxp is that Cillizza

frogbs, Friday, 13 December 2019 05:16 (four years ago) link

it's not, actually! but it sounds so much like him.

Dingle Kringle (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 December 2019 05:17 (four years ago) link


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