US Politics, December 2019: Profound procedural deficiencies

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the naming of the FBI investigation Crossfire Hurricane seems really corny

Calling it Locomotive Breath would have been pretty bitchin, tho

Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

Trump: Pardons Multiple War Criminals

Bevin: Hold My Beer.

https://www.kentuckynewera.com/news/article_c1a31eec-1c5f-11ea-b560-f7ed0ba79bdf.html

As one of his final acts in office, former Gov. Matt Bevin commuted the sentence of Dayton Jones to time served by executive order. The executive order gives no reason for the commutation.

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According to New Era archives, Jones pleaded guilty Aug. 22, 2016, to first-degree sodomy, first-degree wanton endangerment and first-degree distribution of matter portraying a sexual performance by a minor. In November 2016, he was sentenced to 15 years in prison with no possibility of probation and a lifetime requirement to register as a sex offender upon release.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:46 (four years ago) link

chill greta, chill

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 12 December 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

i hope his mouth caves in on itself

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link

At least he didn’t make a pun equating her name to a place in nobility. That would have been horrific!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 12 December 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

Do it https://t.co/WgntNWG1ca

— Preet Bharara (@PreetBharara) December 12, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

this is hardly the most important thing here, but I do wish pundits would settle on some appropriate descriptors for Greta. she can be a teenage girl or a minor but Trump's behavior is sufficiently monstrous without having to label her as a "young child" or something that makes it sound like she's 8 years old. she's 16.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

Older Than Barron!

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

I do still think that's a legit equivalency after right-wing media had a collective meltdown over a witness having the temerity to even invoke the young princeling's name.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link

yeah but barron hasn't CHOSEN to be in the public eye &c &c blah blah fart noise

Receive Your Simulated Fluids Before The End of The Year! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link

I'm just surprised Barron is younger. I had thought he was 15 or 16 by now.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

Mitch McConnell could flog Barron in the street and it wouldn't be as objectionable as a libruhl uttering his name.

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

16 is young. Maybe a more vulnerable age than a younger child—she shouldn’t be harassed by the President of the United States that’s for sure.

treeship., Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

Did i mention on ilx before that i hate Trump

treeship., Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

It's not just her chronological age. She's also autistic.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

The President shouldn't really be harassing anyone who isn't an enemy of the state.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

Did i mention on ilx before that i hate Trump

― treeship., Thursday, December 12, 2019 10:54 AM

you know my hatred for the these ridiculous fucking ashole in congress is by far greater than anything i feel for that idiot blob.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

My ire is definitely becoming more diffuse to include those who have enabled and continued to enable his slow devolution into the worst human on earth. I mean people don't become this awful in a bubble but rather because they're rewarded and praised for their flagrantly antisocial behavior instead of getting put in the hospital every time they open their fetid cakehole.

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

I thought he started at about the worst person ever and hasnow devolved to the same position.
THough I guess McConnell may be running him some competition.
BUt yeah it's the enablers I could do without.
Couldn't somebody just create a safe space, some little pocket universe somewhere where they could go off and be utterly deplorable without having a direct effect on the rest of the planet.

Stevolende, Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

I mean the deck was certainly stacked against him ever developing any conscience or character, but a lifetime of sycophants responding with starry-eyed enthusiasm when he shits on their loafers has served only to transform him into a being composed of pure id.

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

So the republicans are basically on a repeat loop then?
Or is what they're saying today any different to what they've tried to say before.

NOt really watched hearings like this before so I'm new to this strike the last word thing. & not sure what it exactly refers to beyond Republicans wanting to talk even more BS and Dems trying to explain what should be obvious.

Stevolende, Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

They've been on a repeat loop for 39 years

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

Holder going after Barr directly in the WaPo opinion pages. Seems kind of unprecedented (also meaningless outside of beltway punditry)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

Couldn't somebody just create a safe space, some little pocket universe somewhere where they could go off and be utterly deplorable without having a direct effect on the rest of the planet.

That would be grand but unfortunately they clearly enjoy being able to affect the rest of the planet in monstrous ways. It's how they get their jollies.

Back in the Mesozoic era when I was a student of philosophy, there was a concept called the pleasure-monster: an evil sadistic being who got astronomical levels of happiness out of torturing innocent puppies, fluffy bunnies, precocious children, etc. If you like, you can imagine the pleasure-monster as simultaneously very deluded: he's actually on an otherwise uninhabited planet. He only IMAGINES that he's torturing innocent children, fluffy puppies, precocious bunnies, etc. Either way. You get the idea.

IIRC this was intended as a critique of consequentialism and, by extension, utilitarianism: if you're using "pleasure vs. pain" as a measure of moral worth, simply construct a thought experiment in which doing clearly horrible things creates tremendous levels of pleasure for someone, and see if the consequentialist still endorses consequences as the only measure of moral value.

In college it seemed a hyperbolic, potentially silly hypothetical.

Now? Not so much.

Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

I've been thinking of the scenario where Trump loses the election and then... refuses to fade into the background, continues to serve as leader of the GOP (cuz who else do they have, really?), and then just runs again in 2024. The odds that he will just fade into the background and not be a huge media figure/shit-stirrer seem p low.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

Otm. He'll be on Fox News as a consultant

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

I fear the Obi Wan scenario

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

holy shit -- Rep. Hank Johnson just went there in response to Rep. Gaetz poking at Hunter Biden's reported drug use: “I don't know what members, if any, have had problems with substance abuse, been busted in DUIs... If i did, I wouldn't raise it against anyone on this committee." pic.twitter.com/6kixChgvvF

— j.d. durkin (@jiveDurkey) December 12, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

Otm. He'll be on Fox News as a consultant

― master of nuggets (Neanderthal),

his family had plans to start trumpTV after he lost the 2016 election, but unfortunately for the universe, he "won". i assume after he's out of office he'll take the worst 1/10th of Fox and use that as his foundation for nu-TrumpTV

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

Whatever he does (if he lives so long) will be based on making carloads of money while doing the least actual work he can.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link

i assume trumpTV's will be the first major media outlet to feature a human face as a logo, so trump can literally be on tv all of the time on his favorite station

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

xp

honestly i think he would work very hard if it was trumptv. that seems like something he'd actually care about

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

lol @ the notion of Donald Trump being in any kind of functional state if by some miracle he survives another four years.

Which doesn't mean he wouldn't still run (and possibly win) as an inert, wheezing sack of festering flesh being wheeled from appearance to appearance in his gold-plated hospital bed, but still.

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

they're gonna build him a giant robot and stick him in the belly, krang-style
http://resources.nobleknight.com/Catalog/Images/900/900/0/1/0/WZKTMNTHC031.jpg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

he may be all of those things in 4 years, but he'll be on tv. siri, i know i disabled you and you can't hear me through my typing, but set a reminder 4 years from now to revisit this set of posts and check-in on the status of trump's flesh

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

Okay KARL MALONE... calendar reminder set for four years to... CHECK IN ON FRESH RUMP

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

goddammit siri

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

truly he is the little bitchiest of little bitches

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link

He's an utter coward, just like every bully that ever existed.

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

The odds that he will just fade into the background and not be a huge media figure/shit-stirrer seem p low.


It’s not his choice. They can (and will) choose not to cover him, and he will likely get the Dubya treatment by the RW media machine if he loses. Nobody likes to talk about a loser. Fox & Friends will stop taking his calls.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link

Fox won’t take his calls but the Trump News Network sure will

iatee, Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link

xpost I wish I believed that but I really don't believe that. He's been a demonstrable loser for decades and has remained pretty successful at shoving himself down everyone's throat nonetheless.

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link

and he will likely get the Dubya treatment by the RW media machine if he loses

the difference is the GOP audience turned on Dubya *before* he lost, and there's no signs of that now. If Fox's audience wants more Trump, more Trump is what they will get.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link

It's possible to be more visible than George W. Bush but still relegated to the 6:51 nightly news segment.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

Dubya also got us into a war that as early as 2005 was collapsing in popularity. By the time the midterms happened, even the GOP knew a Democrat was gonna trounce whomever it nominated.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link

a Democratic president. I have vivid memories of every hardcore Republican I know shaking their heads inconsolably that Bush had led to another Clinton in the White House.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

Xps

I would put money on the Trump News Network a. Existing b. Taking a huge chunk of the Fox audience who have been scandalized by Chris Wallace’s heresies

Like all trump products he’s barely gonna be involved in the details. He’s someone who puts his name on absolutely anything and right wing political news is a much better fit than steaks and ties. I suspect we’re not gonna be done with him until he’s dead or possibly in prison.

iatee, Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

I honestly don't think he has many years of life left, he looks like shit. We'll be done with him one way or another.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link


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