i decided to give Binaural a listen recently, it's a pretty good slab of rock music, not nearly as catchy as their earlier work but still good enough. i'm willing to forgive PJ for a lot of their music crimes tho i think it might be regarded as their worst?
― omar little, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:13 (four years ago) link
Vitalogy suffers from the same disease as Druqks: a chocolate box of assorted styles, except there are only three of those styles and they jar up against each other. in the case of Vitalogy it's hoary rockers, plaintive ballads and weird experiments, sequenced in a way that feels like you're listening to three different albums on shuffle
― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:17 (four years ago) link
i like that tho
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:25 (four years ago) link
Vitalogy is NOT a NJ in that it's not an Afterburner or Fore! -- it deliberately WANTS to shed fans.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
Also maybe I am misreading its legacy but it feels like one of the core Pearl Jam albums and admirably risky instead of being a disappointing bland behemoth
― omar little, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:47 (four years ago) link
exactly -- Pearl Jam don't belong in this thread
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:55 (four years ago) link
PJ have worked on undercutting their popularity since at least 1994
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:56 (four years ago) link
Bingo. Also Vitalogy has, afaik, one of their biggest songs, Corduroy (fans and live, not charts).
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:34 (four years ago) link
I bet Pearl Jam would do an awesome "Bad Medicine."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:51 (four years ago) link
Xpost yea they opened with Corduroy first time i saw them
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:55 (four years ago) link
Didn't know Corduroy was so loved. I like it but always heard it as a deep cut
― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 10:38 (four years ago) link
just made a long Spotify playlist of my fave Pearl Jam songs and Yield was the only album where I couldn't miss any of the tracks, to my surprise. I like them all.
― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link
I want to say every Pearl Jam album has a bunch of beloved songs that are always in circulation in their sets. While I admit I don't entirely grasp the "New Jersey" concept, I do agree that Pearl Jam intentionally downsized their appeal, or tried to, by not making videos, by trying to go around Ticketmaster, by making more aggressive, or weirder, or less explicitly commercial music (which often got played anyway), and so on. If anything Pearl Jam is in the category of bands whose debut albums were so huge it's more or less fueled their entire career. Talk about live staples, it's remarkable the galvanizing impact all those early songs still have on a PJ set.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
they have a bunch of Christmas songs up on Spotify at the moment btw
― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link
PJ is one of the few bands for whom their entire catalog is of equal worth; they've disowned nothing. You're as likely to hear "Lukin" or "Pilate" as you are "Alive" or "Wishlist." It's not like when the Stones debut, say, "Worried About You" or dust off "She Was Hot."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link
actually the deliberately shedding fans is a grunge era pathology i didn't really think about
however,
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, December 10, 2019 7:34 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
again, Corduroy being a big song does NOT disqualify it, in fact I think a New Jersey has to have some big hits or it would be a Fairweather Johnson
Bon Jovi still does a bunch of New Jersey in its live sets
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/bon-jovi/2019/estadio-nacional-lima-peru-439c7ff7.html
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link
also not really relevant but DAMN Vitology is more of a slog than I remembered
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link
yeah dog latin otm about the sequencing. but that also helped it feel like a big box of goodies, along with the packaging i think. it's going for "white album" maybe - it just doesn't quite have the sonic variety to match, versus something like Mellon Collie where you really get different sounds or even different genres as you go on the journey. whereas Vitalogy is maybe four cut songs away from being a very strong "Vs. II." the choice to not do that makes the world more interesting. and also makes it have less of a New Jersey "feel," vis-a-vis conscious shedding of superstardom, even tho i agree that it ticks several other boxes.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
"better man" still has life on radio stations that play grunge hits. idk can't see vitalogy as a nj at all
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link
although i guess that's a point in its favor
NJ had five top tens including two #1's and except for "Bad Medicine" they've all vanished from the face of the earth
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, August 7, 2012 11:55 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
I agree that PJ does not belong on this thread
― Simon H., Wednesday, 11 December 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link
Bon Jovi sucks, but I was curious and looked up the track list of New Jersey, and there are three songs off that I could hum. The rest I don't recognize by title, but three is not bad!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link
I just came across a recent interview with Desmond Child, who co-wrote "Livin' on a Prayer" (among others). He says last year it got streamed half a billion times, and that netted him all of $6,000. My question is, where is my cut for hearing it so many times?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 December 2019 02:00 (four years ago) link
Does he get a cut of karaoke licenses, though?
― Inapt Authority (morrisp), Thursday, 12 December 2019 04:44 (four years ago) link
That is a fucking pittance. Songwriters and musicians really need to go on strike like back in ‘42.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 12 December 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link
I just came across a recent interview with Desmond Child, who co-wrote "Livin' on a Prayer" (among others).
I mean, Bad Medicine for one!
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 12 December 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link
There's one song on "New Jersey" co-written by Child *and* Diane Warren! Talk about hedging your bets.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 December 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link
Any band that ever co-wrote with Child should have their instruments destroyed
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link
Aerosmith
"Heart's Done Time""Dude (Looks Like a Lady)""Angel""What It Takes""Flesh""Crazy""Hole in My Soul""Ain't That a Bitch"
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link
That is DIRE
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link
pretty bummed that i can still more or less remember how those Nine Lives deep cuts go
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link
Don't forget his sultry, magnificent work with Ricky Martin.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link
Haha I remember Nine Lives well
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link
by the time desmond child arrives, that's almost assuredly already happened.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLcWHU9tKjg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
Wow, lay off the Dudes of Wrath, man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9N2HJWAyiE
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link
lol i watched shocker for the first time last week. fuckin rules
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
Nice!
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
Garth's Vegas show is apparently just him in sweats with a guitar and atool. I'd like to see that.
― Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:37 PM bookmarkflaglink
(stool)
I'd see him with just a guitar and stool. Proper pants would be a nice touch, though.
― alpine static, Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:38 PM bookmarkflaglink
a guitar and a tool
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:38 PM bookmarkflaglink
Magic Garth
― Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:39 PM bookmarkflaglink
He'd like to see that.
― some dude, Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:39 PM bookmarkflaglink
haaaaaaay y'all what's going on?
― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:40 PM bookmarkflaglink
i just want to watch garth brooks sit on a stool naked
― max, Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:42 PM bookmarkflaglink
thanks for killing the thread
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:49 PM bookmarkflaglink
traveled down the road and back againyour heart is trueyou're a friend and a confidant
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:50 PM bookmarkflaglink
inspired run
― Dingle Kringle (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 December 2019 05:48 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnGoFU4XIAA1wWy?format=jpg&name=small
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 12:20 (three years ago) link
available on 12" CDV!
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:02 (three years ago) link
“The music that put rock on the map”Good lord
― calstars, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link
Was convinced someone had revived this to suggest 'Positions'..
― piscesx, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link
No one knew precisely where rock was located before this.
Some had foolishly contended that the heart of it was in Cleveland.
― coupvfefe (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link
xpost put rock on what map? the map to buttrock town?
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link
the map is available on a 12" CDV
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link
― calstars, Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:03 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
LMFAO
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link
that is a perfectly reasonable dad joke tbf
― @oneposter (💹) (sic), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link
for New Jersey's core audience of 22 year olds with two kids