THE IRISHMAN, A Martin Scorsese Picture with de Niro, Pacino, Pesci, Keitel

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they also used cgi for broken glass in a really shitty way in that scene (it fell too slowly iirc).

he chucked a gun like an old man, like he has limited mobility in his limbs and chucking a heavy piece of metal is kind of a strain

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

I'm just against de-aging, I've realized. sure, do it to make a septuagenarian look 50, maybe. but use it sparingly ffs.

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

Was there any breaking of the fourth wall that you tend to see a lot of in Scorsese pictures? There was Frank in the nursing home, but even then it seemed like he was talking to an unseen interlocutor, not us, the audience. Maybe Frank's VO the whole time was him explaining away his life to the priest? I otherwise don't recall anything.

i didn't notice anything like this other than the nursing home scenes.

i'm going to try to watch it again later this week, there's a lot about it that is lingering w/me. one thing i noticed is that the violence is fast, they just get it over with and keep walking. Even the Hoffa hit is just two shots and out the door. And it's quite a bit less grisly than his other gangster films.

omar little, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link

Sorta felt to me like Scorsese was making up for Casino, which I felt at the time was something of a misreading of Goodfellas (i.e. if it's violence they want, it's violence they'll get.)

I liked the fast plot pacing in general, like how Frank's affair/divorce/remarriage was handled in 2 short sentences of dialogue: "There's no good time to leave your wife. But that's what I did."

henry s, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link

Marty explaining duel wielding!!! pic.twitter.com/L1kOmByh6p

— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) December 9, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

this was way upthread and maybe already answered but regarding the aspect ratio, I bet he shot flat because he knew it would be largely seen on 16x9 televisions.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

inevitably so

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

Frank: I’m a friend of Jimmy Bofa

Jimmy: Who’s Jimmy Bo-

Frank: pic.twitter.com/pupaJD1zKF

— Columbo’s Fake Wife (@SlayerofCis) December 12, 2019

mh, Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

the opening tracking shot of the irishman & the copacabana tracking shot in goodfellas. time comes for us all pic.twitter.com/VHRxydRnSq

— nick usen (@nickusen) December 10, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:40 (four years ago) link

she's so great

Editor Thelma Schoonmaker breaks down her collaborative process with Scorsese on THE IRISHMAN and why it was one of the best films she's ever worked on. pic.twitter.com/nKsOh4V1Vd

— Netflix Film (@NetflixFilm) December 9, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 December 2019 02:43 (four years ago) link

The CGI was less distracting than bad makeup or having other actors play the young versions.

... (Eazy), Friday, 13 December 2019 04:25 (four years ago) link

I hope Scorsese shows up 15 minutes late and is wearing fucking shorts. https://t.co/wcGj8VdsnU

— PAUL "Part Irishman" (@HuginsPL) December 12, 2019

... (Eazy), Friday, 13 December 2019 06:43 (four years ago) link

Lol.

Iger: Marty. We've gotta talk. You're hurtin' me here.
Scorsese: (chomps steak. stares)

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 13 December 2019 09:49 (four years ago) link

walks in with an ice cream sundae

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 13 December 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 December 2019 06:57 (four years ago) link

https://i.gifer.com/M5Pe.gif

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 December 2019 06:58 (four years ago) link

It's unnerving how well those long tracking shots line up.

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link

I'd bet that the Mean Streets "Rubber Biscuit" long tracking shot lines up at least partially with those two as well.

henry s, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 02:14 (four years ago) link

to answer a recent question

“Aside from Sinatra, Tony Bennett was the authority in that sense,” the filmmaker recalled in a recent interview. “He had such an extraordinary range and was top of the line. And of course, Dean Martin and his coolness. But it was Jerry Vale who we listened to pretty much all the time.”

Vale has a big role in a crucial scene in Scorsese’s new drama, “The Irishman.” The singer, as embodied by Steven Van Zandt, performs at a gala thrown in honor of Frank Sheeran, the mob hit man at the center of the movie. As Vale sings, gangsters discuss the fate of Jimmy Hoffa, the Teamsters leader who in real life disappeared in 1975.

A member of Mitch Miller’s saccharine yet hugely successful Columbia Records roster, Vale (born Genaro Louis Vitaliano) was one of many Italian-American nightclub singers of the era who were influenced by Bing Crosby. Even stars like Sinatra based their early style on Crosby, who was himself influenced by Louis Armstrong....

“He sounded like as if my uncle sang, or the way my brother could sing,” Scorsese said. “Of course Jerry is 100 times better, but he felt like that person in the room who would break into song. It was like a family member in a way; that voice was so familiar and comforting.”

Scorsese recently turned 77, and it’s the music of his youth that has informed his films, many set to deep cuts and classics. “For me, it’s very, very serious,” he said of his tune choices. “Probably the most enjoyable part of making movies is to select these songs.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/13/movies/jerry-vale-the-irishman.html

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

did Vale ever cover Gimme Shelter tho

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

Will no one give Al Martino his due?!?

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

Al Martino got his due in the book

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

loved it. gonna rewatch it like 6 times on my phone in bed over the next few weeks

didn’t feel long at all

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 05:04 (four years ago) link

Irishman is superior to goodfellas in that goodfellas cut out all the driving and checking into hotels and just left the exciting parts.

— Colin Quinn (@iamcolinquinn) December 4, 2019

... (Eazy), Friday, 20 December 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link

it's hard to think of someone who fits "hack comedian" more than CQ

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 December 2019 02:43 (four years ago) link

the best part of Goodfellas involved driving cars.

beard papa, Friday, 20 December 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link

I'd happily watch the extended driving & hotel check-in cut of The Irishman.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 20 December 2019 04:25 (four years ago) link

Irishman is superior to goodfellas in that goodfellas cut out all the driving and checking into hotels and just left the exciting parts.
— Colin Quinn (@iamcolinquinn) December 4, 2019
― ... (Eazy), Thursday, December 19, 2019 9:36 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

unironically otm

flopson, Friday, 20 December 2019 05:18 (four years ago) link

Yeah, that was my take as well. The long drives and long hangouts instead of the quick cuts and coke momentum.

... (Eazy), Friday, 20 December 2019 05:51 (four years ago) link

Two different portraits, one is the story of a guy who wanted to make loads of money without working a job and indulging in every vice, the other is the story of a guy who regarded his mob work as a job that he showed up for like clockwork and did well and just wanted to have a steady gig.

omar little, Friday, 20 December 2019 07:28 (four years ago) link

New interview

We are in a situation now where the theatres are only showing the latest superhero films. You have 12 screens – and 11 are the superhero film. You enjoy superhero films, fine, but you need 11 screens? It’s crazy for a picture like, you know, Lady Bird or The Souvenir. Those films may not necessarily be hugely commercial, but there are films that are modest and genuine and find a large audience. Just because a film is commercial doesn’t mean it can’t be art. What has consumed the theatres is product. A product is to be consumed and thrown away.

... (Eazy), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link

the man stays on message!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 20 December 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

The Souvenir is different; I was actually on in the beginning with Joanna [Hogg]. She came to see me and we had discussions about it. The Safdie brothers, they’re crazy. I saw them in Telluride at a dinner and it was like they were mugging me. They look like two bandits. When they said they had Adam Sandler, I thought: OK, that’s interesting. They would come on the set of The Irishman and hang out. There’s still an aspect of me that has an affinity with their ferocious manner, so to speak. But over the years, I have become more and more like Joanna’s films or Happy as Lazzaro – it’s about focusing on the essentials.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 December 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

The Safdie Brothers have reportedly been linked to a remake of "48 Hrs."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 December 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link

I'm down with any director who wants to kick it with Hogg.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 December 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link

In rural areas, sure. And that is a problem for sure. But there are exactly zero theatres in my area that only show the superhero film and little else. Ive gone to indie films while Marvel is playing next door.

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link

im not sure that rural areas have 12 screens at their cinemas but yeah, I'm going to a multiplex to see the new terrence malick film this afternoon because i live in a city. i could also go see parasite, the new todd haynes movie, or a screening of the fleabag theatre piece at the same multiplex this afternoon if i so wished.

xmas respecter (jim in vancouver), Friday, 20 December 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

Tupelo (pop. ~35,000) has a 10 and an 8. Showing a total of 7 different films today.

Miami weisse (WmC), Friday, 20 December 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link

I'm assuming the tupelo metro area is over 100k with those kind of numbers

xmas respecter (jim in vancouver), Friday, 20 December 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link

140k, #8 in US Micropolitan Statistical Areas. The 140k surprised me considering the 3 counties it covers.

Miami weisse (WmC), Friday, 20 December 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link

ah this was mesmerising

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 December 2019 22:38 (four years ago) link

great thread

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Monday, 23 December 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link

I think late period Scorsese is the best.

calzino, Monday, 23 December 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link

I’d definitely be willing to argue that his last 3 are among his best.

ryan, Monday, 23 December 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link

Completely missed the first time around that the close up of a gun being fired and someone getting shot in the head near the beginning of his narration (“And then I started painting houses...myself.”) is Frank shooting Hoffa.

omar little, Monday, 23 December 2019 01:07 (four years ago) link

wow, that makes two of us - and I've seen it twice!

henry s, Monday, 23 December 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link

same here, extremely grateful for that

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 23 December 2019 04:03 (four years ago) link

how could you tell, omar? i remember the splatter shot but not what preceded it.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 December 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link


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