US Politics, December 2019: Profound procedural deficiencies

Trump's most ardent cronies have so inexorably lashed their own fates to that of their god-emperor that it's completely unsurprising at this point to see them do/say absolutely anything that putatively favors him, irrespective of how far outside the bounds of morality or normalcy or legality their actions may be. And to a man, they seem to have missed the news that impeachment proceedings aren't going to result in Trump being removed from office, so what the fuck is it all even for? Just to retain his personal favor?

I'm not convinced Bill Barr's disagreement will move anybody other than people who already believed there was spying to begin with.

This is much more of a nothingburger report than Mueller's, low info voters may not even notice he disagreed.

The article title mentions nothing about Barr here, nor does CNN's. In both cases you have to actually read it to find that out.

Wouldn't be surprised if later articles incorporate that into the title, but your serial cut and pasters that don't read the lede will probably not even notice.

i assume it's just so that they awarded with a larger mansion on the secret island they're all retreating to after all this is over

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gohmert is talking about how they already have enough evidence to impeach biden

Barr's traducing his oath of office yet again is another good reason why accosting and scolding these assholes wherever they appear in a public space seems like an idea to ponder seriously. It has both its attractions and its drawbacks.

The attractions are obvious. But one drawback that I can easily imagine would be the high likelihood that such public scolding would be breathlessly reported by FOX News as a form of shocking political violence, inspiring their audience to retaliate against the liberals 'in the same coin', except that 'same coin' would come in the form of physical violence. Because there are never any bad consequences to deliberately blurring the distinction between verbal scolding and physical assault.

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gohmert must be referring to all that sworn testimony Giuliani gave on tv talk shows

These knuckleheads have a real thing for Adam Schiff. How long until they start imitating his sex noises?

They're recording them?

uuuuuugh matt gaetz is the fucking wooooooorst

he just listed off a series of issues that are more important than impeachment, including climate change

https://scorecard.lcv.org/moc/matt-gaetz

Maybe that's how we get them to finally care about it

Trick them

I wonder if there could be any way that progress on climate change and impeachment might have any connection to each other? Or is that too far-fetched?

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) speculated that, should Joe Biden be elected president, he could be impeached on the grounds of the bogus Burisma allegations President Trump has pursued. “You have set the bar so low I’m afraid it’s irreparable,” he said. Pondering a potential Biden impeachment, Gohmert said: “We’ve already got the forms. All we have to do is eliminate Donald Trump’s name and put Joe Biden’s name in there, because he’s on video. He and his son. He basically has admitted to the crime that’s being hoisted on the President improperly.”

try to worm your way out of THAT, democrats!

xp if not for impeachment, the heroic matt gaetz would be leading the fight on climate change. but instead, he has to be sitting there, asking these questions. to our children and our children's children, we are sorry. matt gaetz just did not have enough time

i don't know what to make of christopher steele's friendship with ivanka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8oAQOvOEXY

Chris bought her gifts? lol that’s a plot twist I was not expecting

MICHIGAN
2020 GE:
Trump 46% (+5)
Biden 41%

Trump 48% (+6)
Sanders 42%

Trump 47% (+9)
Warren 38%

Trump 48% (+11)
Buttigieg 37%

Trump 48% (+11)
Bloomberg 37%@Be0ptimus/@FirehouseStrat 12/3-5https://t.co/eQbNfxdFl9

— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) December 9, 2019

WISCONSIN
2020 GE:
Trump 48% (+9)
Biden 39%

Trump 49% (+11)
Buttigieg 38%

Trump 49% (+12)
Bloomberg 37%

Trump 50% (+13)
Warren 37%

Trump 51% (+13)
Sanders 38%@Be0ptimus/@FirehouseStrat 12/3-5https://t.co/eQbNfxdFl9

— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) December 9, 2019

PENNSYLVANIA
2020 GE:
Trump 45% (+4)
Bloomberg 41%

Trump 46% (+5)
Biden 41%

Trump 46% (+6)
Buttigieg 40%

Trump 47% (+7)
Warren 40%

Trump 48% (+10)
Sanders 38%@Be0ptimus/@FirehouseStrat 12/3-5https://t.co/eQbNfxdFl9

— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) December 9, 2019

gee looks like Hannity was right all along, pack it up Dems

FIREHOUSE STRATEGIES IS A FULL-SERVICE PUBLIC AFFAIRS FIRM THAT FOCUSES ON DELIVERING TARGETED PERSUASION CAMPAIGNS FOR A WIDE VARIETY OF CORPORATE CLIENTS.

uuuuuugh matt gaetz is the fucking wooooooorst

― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Monday, December 9, 2019 4:29 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he just listed off a series of issues that are more important than impeachment, including climate change

https://scorecard.lcv.org/moc/matt-gaetz

― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Monday, December 9, 2019 4:30 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink The mere sight of his smarmy visage triggers violent urges, and then he speaks and it's just

the most punchable face in America. The mere sight of his smarmy visage triggers violent urges, and then he speaks and it's just..

so I just learned from a GOP congressman that "Democrat" lawmakers wanna ban air travel

works for me

I also want to take all their guns away

empty Wal Mart FEMA re-education camps would at least keep them busy, if not actually achieve the intended purpose.

The Firehouse Strategies polling "methodology" includes "peer-to-peer text message"

also "lying"

Is republicans are pure filth the correct formulation?

Hate to think any of these individuals are going to go onto continued careers.

this is a list of 430 polling firms, rated by 538.

https://github.com/fivethirtyeight/data/blob/master/pollster-ratings/pollster-ratings.csv

firehouse doesn't appear.

also, this is the firehouse strategie's wikipedia description: "Firehouse Strategies is a public relations consulting firm headquartered in Washington, DC. It was founded in 2016 by Republican strategists Terry Sullivan, Alex Conant, and Will Holley, who served on Senator Marco Rubio's 2016 presidential campaign.[1][2]"

Can't trust a sub shop to poll people accurately, they got only two hands

you know what Rubio has to say about hands

They're permanently calloused from all the Brilliantine lathering?

how soon we forget
https://dailycaller.com/2016/02/28/rubio-goes-nuclear-on-trump-by-attacking-the-size-of-his-hands/

oh, looks the other firm mentioned (@Be0ptimus/@FirehouseStrat) is on there: Optimus. they've only done 15 polls so far, so ratings are preliminary, but currently they have a score of C/D

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rubio OBLITERATES trump!!!

Trump's bump

I wholeheartedly support the GOP's attempts to inflate Trump's chances of re-election. Keep complacent republicans home on election day and draw concerned democrats to the polls.

inclined to agree w that point

Or make defeatist Dems stay home.

cliche that was always being repeated a couple of years ago had the republicans being the ones who always voted. What does it take to get the same response from the democrats. Hope 3 years of hell is enough of a spark

Dems aren't gonna stay home. There was a BLUE WAVE MIGHT NOT HAPPEN/GET YOUR HOPES RESET message going out for months prior to midterms. They still showed up. 40 seats. And during the election nobody votes in typically.

Dems got caught napping in 16 cos we all thought this unwiped asshole had no chance. Now we have three years of living that Hell.

The Dems could try to compel Bolton to testify, right? Why don't they?

bolton is able and willing to take them to court to avoid doing it, which would take a long time

Why don't they?

My best understanding of that is that Bolton has already declared he would drag the matter into the courts, where it most certainly would not yet be adjudicated by the time the Senate holds its trial.

The Democrats' possible counter strategy that I've heard mentioned (unofficially) makes good sense to me, which is that Bolton will be called as a witness during the impeachment trial, where Chief Justice Roberts will preside. The presumption is that Roberts will be able to adjudicate it on the spot by a ruling from "the bench". If Bolton has already challenged his earlier subpoena in a lower court prior to the trial, Roberts could let himself off the hook and plead that the matter is already under judicial review and he should not interfere in a pending case.

yes, I think he already told them he would sue them if they did

Articles of impeachment: as early as tomorrow morning

Geez, I hope before they release the bill they have someone to double-check their work who hasn't been working on two hours of sleep for days.

They probably just hired a broke student on Craigslist to write it for them.

On climate change I'm afraid that them moving past outright denial isn't necessarily any kind of progress on the issue. It's getting to where outright denial is becoming politically untenable and I'm convinced that they long ago mapped out their future strategy of morphing from 'it isn't happening' to 'it's too late to do anything about it/it doesn't matter what we do cause China and India'.

The only connection I see between progress on impeachment and climate change is that both involve disinformation campaigns initiated by the political lackeys of energy oligarchs. (Which may tie in with a halfassed theory I'm working on involving George Orwell's relationship with the USSR.)

we're only a few years from "climate change is real...and liberals SECRETLY CAUSED IT AND TRIED TO COVER IT UP". so yeah, viborg otm

Yes that was actually the exact Orwell quote I had in mind.