Tangerine Dream S/D

oh god 80s TD is my favorite: white eagle is my top TD album, hyperborea, poland... underwater sunlight is about where it gets too generic-sounding for me and i get bored.

also check out froese's pinnacles, kamikaze 1983 and schmoelling's wuivend riet

I think my favorite TD LP is Logos.
Agreed that Underwater Sunlight is the last album with anything worthwhile on it, but just barely.

Optical Race has some pretty neat tunes on it

Hope they're hauling the old modular into that Barbican thingy. Did Green Desert ever get a proper release with Froese's 80s digital crap excised?

I quite like the recent Gong albums. they're not as great as classic period Gong but they're really good psych albums and dont' denigrate the legacy the way, say, the last Yes album did. I haven't spent time with the latest TD stuff though.

Jesus, "Coldwater Canyon" on "Encore", the guys in the band gradually work up interesting and intricate rhythmic backing only for Edgar Froese to bollocks it up with tedious boilerplate guitarwiddle for a good quarter of an hour - not so much mind ernie-ing as edgar-ing. Context is everything, and love the guy usually, but I seriously think Edgar Froese might be my least favourite guitar player of all time.

he has a good tone for the most part though

I hear that but love his guitar on Force Majeure.

accidentally posted on the noise board, reposting here:

I've long heard about a version of Froese's "Marouba Bay" that was *accidentally released backwards (as in, the song plays in reverse). It was supposedly released on a compilation called Electronic Dreams. I just downloaded this version and it is exactly the same as the version on Epsilon in Malaysian Pale. Is there anywhere I can hear this infamous backward version?

(*I have no idea how something like this gets "accidentally" released without anyone noticing).

Sounds like the story about Fripp/Eno's "No Pussyfooting" accidentally being played backwards on the John Peel Show. I suppose if you put the tape in the wrong way round? I forget how reel-to-reels work.

Maroubra Bay (Recorded Backwards)

IIRC there's one French edition of Zeit that's somehow mastered backwards. Probably went unnoticed for years.

It's like a bad joke - "Didja hear the one about the electronic musician whose album was played backwards, and nobody noticed? Haw haw haw..."

It's true, the comments are interesting here -

https://www.discogs.com/release/303081

easy enough to recreate these days though. might try it over the weekend.

Did anyone else see them on the brief North American tour they took, where they specifically focused on their film scores? It was really interesting, but I
don't recall them playing cues from some of my favourites, like THREE O'CLOCK HIGH, MIRACLE MILE, and THE KEEP.

The fact that The Keep has never gotten a proper soundtrack-- the one they issued had a bunch of lesser stuff they did long after the fact-- has frustrated me to no end. The opening titles are some of my favorite TD ever.

"Stealing the Silver Cross" is such a brilliant cue. The film itself has been in a bizarre legal state for years, and only very recently did it get any kind of official DVD release (in Australia).
Paramount won't even let out their 35mm prints of it-if you want to see it in celluloid, you have to get a copy from a collector or the British Film Institute, which has one with a busted
soundtrack over the first reel that plays like a really obnoxious pager buzzing.

I have never gotten the love for Thief. I always go back to it because it's so well loved and I feel like I must be missing something, but the only one I ever remember is "Beach Theme / Scene." What am I missing?

The Keep is staggeringly good music. There are a couple of really good expanded boots on the web, quite listenable except for a few bits. It does not seem likely there’ll ever be a legit release. I could maybe see a reconstruction though along the lines of the Edgar Rothermich recording of Blade Runner which BSX released.

I like the official album they released in the 90s but in no way does it serve as a satisfactory Keep OST.

What are the obstacles to a proper soundtrack release? The film itself seems to be in a limbo for home release but I saw it on television several years ago.

Probably not lucrative enough to make it worth jumping through the contractual hoops to make it happen?

The licensing of film score reissues is really complicated and costly and if there’s one stakeholder who doesn’t want to play or who is holding out for a crazy price you’re out of luck. Also they have to find the soundtrack elements and it’s very common for those to have been thrown into a landfill somewhere.

But I imagine whatever rights limbo afflicts the movie also prevents a score release. TD are popular and it’s an eighties genre movie - it’d definitely sell

All sorts of obscure soundtracks come out quite often so I'd think it would be simple enough most of the time, but a total headache often enough to be wary?

So, I flipped Zeit around (see upthread) if any of you weirdos wanna listen to it, here's a link: https://we.tl/t-EzEd8XRzgf

I interviewed Thorsten Quaeschning and Bianca Froese-Acquaye (Froese's widow, and TD's manager) for the upcoming issue of The Wire, about what the current incarnation is doing and how they're balancing honoring and preserving the group's legacy with being a present-day project (new album next year).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ_mtgMWkAEoJq3.jpg

Ooh, interesting.

Nice, looking forward to that! Great illustration, too.

Any mentions of a legit issue of The Keep ost? :D

Great interview! In total agreement with your comparison of a recent track to a Kompakt 12". I rather like the fact that with Schnauss and Paul Frick's involvement the group is (re)connecting with later generations of German electronica. (Tbh the current lineup is making far better music than at least several previous incarnations of the band.)

I'll reserve judgement until I've read the article, but for now I'm standing by my conviction that TD without Edgar Froese is not TD. TD is not a franchise. It was Edgar's project, his life's work. Quaeschning can do whatever project he likes but he has no moral right to call it TD, whatever Froese's widow may say.

ok, anyone here got this ?

https://www.discogs.com/Tangerine-Dream-Rubycon-Revisited/release/534105

recently got a recent podcast in mp3 form and it featured a section of this boot ..

would love to hear the full thing.

New box set coming 10/30: Pilots of Purple Twilight - The Virgin Recordings 1980-1983. Big headline: includes the music from The Keep!

TRACKLIST:

CD 1: Tangram
01 “Tangram Set 1″
02 “Tangram Set 2″

CD 2: Thief
01 “Beach Theme”
02 “Dr. Drestructo”
03 “Diamond Diary”
04 “Burning Bar”
05 “Beach Scene”
06 “Scrap Yard”
07 “Trap Feeling”
08 “Igneous”
Bonus track:
09 “Dr. Destructo (extended version)” (promo only)

CD 3: Exit
01 “Kiew Mission”
02 “Pilots Of Purple Twilight”
03 “Choronzon”
04 “Exit”
05 “Network 23″
06 “Remote Viewing”

CD 4: White Eagle
01 “Mojave Plan”
02 “Midnight In Tula”
03 “Convention Of The 24″
04 “White Eagle”
Bonus tracks:
05 “Das Mädchen auf der Treppe”
06 “Flock”
07 “Katja”
08 “Speed”
Taken from the 12-inch EP Das Mädchen auf der Treppe, released in Germany as Virgin 600 651 in May 1982. Previously unreleased on CD.
09 “Daydream”
10 Moorland”
A & B-sides of single – Released in Germany as Virgin 105 271 in May 1983.

CD 5: The Soldier soundtrack
Recorded in 1981 / 1982 at Polygon Studio and Amber Studio in West Berlin.
Final mixing at Amber Studio, West-Berlin in June 1982
01 “Main titles”
02 “Cue #1 – variation on Logos #1″
03 “Cue #2 – variation on Horizon #1″
04 “Cue #3 – The Soldier #1″
05 “Cue #4 – variation on Dolphin Dance”
06 “Cue #5 – variation on Tangent #1″
07 “Cue #6 – The Soldier #2″
08 “Cue #7 – The Soldier #3″
09 “Cue #8 – The Soldier #4″
10 “Cue #9 – The Soldier #5″
11 “Cue #10 – variation on Horizon #2″
12 “Cue #11 – The Soldier #6″
13 “Cue #12 – The Soldier #7″
14 “Cue #13 – variation on Logos #2″
15 “Cue #14 – The Soldier #8″
16 “Cue #15 – variation on Horizon #3″
17 “End Titles”

CD 6: The Dominion Theatre Concert
6th November 1982
Previously unreleased
01 “The Dominion Concert Part One”

CD 7: The Dominion Theatre Concert
6th November 1982
Previously unreleased
01 “The Dominion Concert Part Two”
02 “Midnight In Tula”
03 “White Eagle”
04 “Dominion”

CD 8: Logos Live
01 “Logos (Part 1)”
02 “Logos (Part 2)”
03 “Dominion”

CD 9: Hyperborea
01 “No Man’s Land”
02 “Hyperborea”
03 “Cinnamon Road”
04 “Sphinx Lightning”
Bonus tracks:
05 “The Dream Is Always The Same”
06 “No Future (Get Off The Babysitter)”
07 “Guido The Killer Pimp”
08 “Lana”
09 “Love On A Real Train (Risky Business)”
Taken from the soundtrack album Risky Business

CD 10: The Keep
Soundtrack to the 1983 film directed by Michael Mann
Previously unreleased
01 “Puer Natus Est Nobis” (Gloria) (Thomas Tallis, arr. Edgar Froese)
02 “Arx Allemand” (Edgar Froese)
03 “Truth And Fiction” (Edgar Froese)
04 “The Silver Seal” (Edgar Froese / Johannes Schmoelling)
05 “Ancient Powerplant” (Edgar Froese)
06 “Supernatural Accomplice” (Edgar Froese)
07 “The Challenger’s Arrival” (Edgar Froese)
08 “Heritage Survival” (Edgar Froese / Christoph Franke / Johannes Schmoelling)
09 “Parallel Words” (Edgar Froese / Johannes Schmoelling)
10 “Canzone” (Edgar Froese / Johannes Schmoelling)
11 “Voices From A Common Land” (Edgar Froese / Christoph Franke / Johannes Schmoelling)
12 “Wardays Sunrise” (Edgar Froese)
13 “The Night In Romania” (Edgar Froese)

Huge news!!!

This is the era of TD I listen to the most

Same

The 'Hades' box is going for a mere £51 on A**zon Germany, if anyone is interested.

not anymore it aint.

So has anyone here checked out 21st Century TD with Yamane, Schnauss and Quaeschning? I'm a fan of the classic Froese era (and a bit beyond the classic era too) but haven't heard anything since he died. Those 6 albums of Sessions look interesting. I wish I'd bought that recent copy of The Wire with the TD cover story but I can never find The Wire out in the wild around here

Also - is it worth making a separate thread for 21st Century TD?

I was planning on picking up the standalone Hyperborea CD but apparently it doesn't have the Risky Business stuff.

Maybe a licensing thing? The previous batch all had the same extra tracks as the versions included in the box.

Listened to some of this box today on Spotify. The full Dominion “concert” that Logos was pulled from is great, all lush Jupiter 8s, crispy PPG and proto-808 drums. I kind of wish there was some 5.1 stuff to be had on this but appreciate how much unreleased materials they unearthed.

Couldn't spring for the box, though I was tempted by all the live material and the fact that I already own the very lush and excellent first box, and I bet they'd look great on the shelf together. I'm still definitely considering purchasing it, especially if I get some additional stimulus money! That's what it's for, right?

I love this period and have never heard the mythical Keep soundtrack. I was initially a little put off by all the 'cues' on the tracklist. Why do I need those? And I already own all of these studio albums on CD. But Logos is one of my favorites, so the idea of the full concert - as well as other full concerts from this period - is very enticing.

I'm listening to the Logos concert on Spotify now and it's pretty good. I'm still way more of a fan of their 1970s material than anything after, but this might be something I wind up using as an editing soundtrack (I edit manuscripts all day). I use a lot of those multi-disc Klaus Schulze compilations for that.

The Dominion Concert on this set is absolutely fantastic - I've dipped in and out of the rest of the stuff here, but it's this concert that I keep coming back to.

did not expect to find this lot in a charity shop today.

Tangerine Dream - Green Desert
Tangerine Dream - Underwater Sunlight
Tangerine Dream - Tyger
Tangerine Dream - Canyon Dreams
Tangerine Dream - Rockoon
Tangerine Dream - Goblins Club
Tangerine Dream - Turn Of The Tides
Tangerine Dream - The Dream Mixes

someone tell me which of these i should prioritise as i have no idea re this era of t'dream.

Green Desert is a 1973 recording with 80s overdubs and mix, the rest I haven't heard.

i saw that in the credits re GD.
most weird.
i only know (and love) the Virgin era.
suspect that these will never surpass those albums.
but for 49p each i had to grab them.

Underwater sunlight and canyon dreams are both good

thinking about it now, i think i may actually have US on vinyl.
ta for the pointers JNJ.