xp I have, yes! And Clouseau and even Columbo, Peter Falk leans into something a little OTT. None of those struck me as this jarring
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 6 December 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link
However racist or superior the family was they all demonstrated a real affection and gratitude for her personally.
lol that lasted all of ten minutes the moment she gets the money. this was clearly a case of going through the motions and being charitable to staff that was always tenuous and only needed one event to completely unravel. none of it was real.
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 December 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
sic it was literally referred to as “the funeral” anyway who cares, this movie was alright
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 6 December 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
xo that’s just not true, she is very evidently treated like family from the outset, long b4 the will is read. I
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 6 December 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
and yeah, co-signing sic, not all funerals are public. wasn't the idea that she didn't even know the funeral had already happened when she arrived at the house? generally if you're not wanted at a funeral due to it being private, you're just...simply not provided the details. or it's announced, like sic said, that we're keeping it to immediate family only. def have had people die where I didn't attend because I basically knew it was a smaller private thing.
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 December 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
that’s just not true, she is very evidently treated like family from the outset
lol have you never known a bullshitter before?
there’s my thumby Zing-post hug/kiss crosspost for you Neanderthal
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 6 December 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
Yeah it just didn’t scan to me that their bullshit extended to secret disdain for this character As you were
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 6 December 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link
born-on-third assholes, which is what most of the Thrombeys are*, are often like this. they're very good at coming across as caring and kind, but also classist assholes that think a thing like having "the help" show up at a rich patriarch's funeral is "beneath" them.
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 December 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link
*meaning that at first it makes most of them look like they built their own empires but it's quickly revealed they did so either from direct million dollar loans from Harlan or illicit means like double-dipping on a daughter's financial aid.
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 December 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link
(disregard, rather than disdain, as shown every time they refer to her parental country of origin)wasn't the idea that she didn't even know the funeral had already happened when she arrived at the house? that’s how I read it the first time, wasn’t sure by the third
― insecurity bear (sic), Friday, 6 December 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link
moreso, it always felt like they were just faux-kind to Marta just like these types of people can be. kind of like "Smurf" Cody in Animal Kingdom with her grandson J. she comes across as a loving grandmother when she takes him in, embraces him, calls him sweety, talks to him in a sweet grandma voice, yet the moment he's a threat to her, she orders him killed, because none of those feelings were 'real'.
similarly they all "like" Marta and they make shows of kindness to her, but they're empty - like they say they're going to take care of her financially! How nice! But it's an empty gesture because they're doing so with the money they assume they're going to get from Harlan's estate, not their own money. and the moment she gets the money, instead of being happy that she's going to be well-off, they all turn on her like selfish, vile pricks.
xpost yeah I don't mean to suggest that they secretly "hate" Marta, but that they don't care as much about her as they let on.
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 December 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, December 6, 2019 2:21 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Exactly. Fran also wasn't invited, which was why she was home to see Ransom.
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Friday, 6 December 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link
michael shannon's eye was really wandering overtime, wonder if it was CGI or if he can do that at will -- acting!
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 6 December 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link
It is a little weird watching this discussion from the UK - she's the help! They're kind to her because you're kind to the help, but I have no idea where you're getting "very evidently treated like family".
In fact she's treated better than the family treats each other, because she's not on the radar. If you'd asked any of them before the will scene if Harlan was schtupping her, they would have politely changed the subject because who cares what you do with the help?
(Something at one point - I annoyingly forget what - did make me wonder if they were going for something Father Brownish where class makes people dangerous through invisibility)
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 6 December 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link
The most glaring example of How Things Are is the scene with Don Johnson prattling on while holding up his empty cake plate. It's only after a second that you realize he is holding it up for Marta, who is standing just off screen and a little bit out of focus in the foreground, to take.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 December 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link
prattling on about how much he appreciates her
― insecurity bear (sic), Friday, 6 December 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link
don johnson was my favorite in this, so effectively squirrely when being interrogated
― na (NA), Friday, 6 December 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link
Does Don Johnson ever play characters that aren't garbage people?
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 December 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
A Boy And His Dog
― insecurity bear (sic), Friday, 6 December 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link
Maybe the twist in Watchmen finale is he's a cool dude.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 6 December 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link
reaching back to: acting badly on purpose, what a bold and advanced move
It never much hurt Peter Sellers when he was playing Inspector Clouseau.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 6 December 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link
are you referring to the character that kills and feeds his g/f to his dog
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 December 2019 22:09 (four years ago) link
Yeah, lol, seriously.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 December 2019 22:12 (four years ago) link
But to be fair, that dog was great. Man's best friend.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 December 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link
He kept the dog alive!
― insecurity bear (sic), Friday, 6 December 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link
Yeah, exactly! He probably made the right choice, because the dog was his friend.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 December 2019 22:24 (four years ago) link
the girl he raped, murdered, and turned into dogfood, eh not so much
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 December 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link
It's a dog eat dog world.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 December 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link
Dog eat girl, I guess.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 December 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link
What a shit movie that was.
― temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Friday, 6 December 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link
It never much hurt Peter Sellers when he was playing Inspector Clouseau.*NARRATOR VOICE ...*
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 6 December 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link
very different sorts of movies Aimless
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 6 December 2019 22:52 (four years ago) link
main diff is that peter sellers is funny
― flopson, Friday, 6 December 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link
Hmmm.
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Saturday, 7 December 2019 00:03 (four years ago) link
The biggest hint that none of them actually really cared about Marta was how all of them had different ideas about which country her family was actually from.
― Roz, Saturday, 7 December 2019 00:14 (four years ago) link
The granddaughter seemed to care about her, at least to some extent. Yeah, she called to get her to renounce the inheritance, but it implied she was doing so under duress.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 December 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link
Even the family members who were most on her side were not really with her.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 7 December 2019 00:27 (four years ago) link
they were very kind to the nice girl from bolivia
― mh, Saturday, 7 December 2019 01:09 (four years ago) link
Meg fuckin told the family that Marta's mother was undocumented! Then she tearfully apologizes and Marta's like it's OK.... it's not OK!!!!!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 7 December 2019 09:13 (four years ago) link
Surprised no Choose Your Own Adventure fans notice the homage.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 December 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link
Did someone descend into an ant hill?Again, Meg sold her out, but there was more than a hint of implication that she was pressured to do so. At least she's portrayed as distraught and in tears when she calls her in front of everyone else's glares.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 December 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link
Lol i totally did. "Who Killed Harlowe Thrombey?"
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 December 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link
I would pay money to see a short of the family’s 4th of July mafia game
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Sunday, 8 December 2019 10:50 (four years ago) link
Also, loved the changing details every time we see a replay of the same scene.Grandma asking Ransom if he’s leaving already -> grandma sitting quietly as Ransom leaves -> grandma sitting with a slice of cake as Ransom leaves
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Sunday, 8 December 2019 10:56 (four years ago) link
re whether the family really likes Marta or not, I think the question is a bit beside the point. If you're from a family like the Thrombeys and one of the household staff walks away with your ENTIRE family inheritance including the house you're not gonna just smile and say, "Welp, she sure deserves it!"
― Josefa, Monday, 9 December 2019 03:31 (four years ago) link
The will is not read until after the funeral.
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 9 December 2019 04:17 (four years ago) link
But whether they love her or hate her or simply don't think of her at all, they would still react the same way to her getting all of their money. That's human nature. (Unless I'm missing your point?)
― Josefa, Monday, 9 December 2019 04:37 (four years ago) link
the point was whether they sincerely liked her so much that they would have invited her to the private family-only funeral or not, so what happens after the funeral can't rly nullify that
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 9 December 2019 06:30 (four years ago) link
JiC - Meg tells them Marta’s mom is undocumented! She isn’t pressured to tell them. That’s the point of her character afaic, to make the point that class interests are always going to win out, no matter how liberal her views or how genuine her liking for the hired help.
― JoeStork, Monday, 9 December 2019 08:15 (four years ago) link