Previously critically acclaimed and/or successful acts who are already being written out of attempts at '10s canon-building

All those big gig duos are just the student disco dance experience writ more or less large

Random Access Memories was also made to be something not so easy to sample and that might be a factor in its critical 'decline' given context. More than that though it's too studied a homage for it to really stand up as a record with real cultural impact this decade.

And regarding Ariel Pink it's not so evident on Before Today but the subsequent records operate more like John Maus fwiw (I'm not really bothering to check lists at least not yet but I would've thought We Must Become The Pitiless... is still turning up in a few of them)

This thread is making me want to pull out the Daft Punk live album, which is the only thing I still own by them.

This is probably still my favorite employment of Daft Punk's music in any context

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpU2HNp6Tjc

Random Access Memories was also made to be something not so easy to sample

i'm generally blah about RAM and debates around it, but i hadn't heard this before - they made it so that it couldn't be sampled easily? but why?

Discovery is still a front-to-back amazing album.
Still think Homework sounds like a bunch of okay-to-decent dance 12"s that would sound better with the pitch adjuster notched up a couple of tempos

Homework only really makes sense to me when I think of its primary audience as being DJs mixing it into other records

xposts I'm not basing it on anything they said themselves about it, I just think it's evident in its construction and the effect of this being to create something there would be no real point in sampling (at least not to try and create a hit around although I've lost enough interest in the charts over the last five years to not know enough if that's even true either!) both because of how busy it is on a technical level (without there being too much in the mix or just musically) and because it's so resolutely like what it's homaging that you would be better off just going straight to the source of that

that's how I think of it frogbs. I can't really listen to it as a 12 song album experience like I do Discovery

And this is why it's a better release than Discovery

Can you please stop talking about 22-year old albums on this thread?

RAM is better than Discovery though i still think both are sub-Homework, their album from 1997.

(knocks, sheepishly pokes head in) Hi, is this the thread where we discuss the work of musical recording artists Daft Punk?

I think there are two main factors at play here:

- Musicians or scenes who people just stopped checking for in the latter half of the decade, who went out of fashion or went nowhere or had minimal impact despite the hype at the time
- People who fell firmly on the wrong side of the generational/cultural/political watershed that took place in the middle of the decade.

Ariel Pink fits squarely in both categories.

big boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty

^^^ I listened to this the other day and most of it still holds up; very sad that it's been forgotten

I still support Random Access Memories. EDM fans wanted a deadmau5 album and they got a Deodato album instead. What's not to love?

In a similar case to Ariel Pink, Crystal Castles was also cancelled after Ethan Kath was accused of sexual misconduct from 4 women including former bandmate, Alice Glass.

Another act which fell from critical grace in the later part of the decade, but which was well beloved in the first half of it: Arcade Fire.

Loved CC second album but yeah that has sunk like a stone in my listening since Glass spoke about that

iirc there was an ilx post that characterized random access memories as daft punk doing in a more obvious way what they had already achieved on discovery, synthesizing the quincy jones productions and jazz fusion and yacht rock records in their collection into dance music. i like ram, but that has felt more and more otm to me as time passes

iirc the goal was to create a record that sounded like all the records they used to sample

Not completely ignored but other acts which were strongly hyped around mid-decade but had some of that early love fade away: Blood Orange and Dev Hynes related projects, Actress, Kurt Vile, Deerhunter, Flying Lotus, James Blake, Bon Iver.

I just love Instant Crush and don't care about contextualising DP's fashionability

Put on Blood Orange recently and it just felt really, really thin. I think some of those names will survive the 10's though. xp

"Harder Faster Better Stronger" was the big one, maybe cuz it was a bit more gimmicky while still being pretty great. I remember sites like YTMND & Ebaums using that tune a lot which in retrospect was not exactly insignificant

2007: I think it was 'Stronger' by Kanye & the accompanying video that really cemented Daft Punk into mainstream consciousness in the US. The massive buzz around the 2007 Alive tour added to that as well.

yeah ariel pink doesn't really belong on any best album lists for this decade, save maybe pom pom, and even that is a stretch. As alluded to above, it's really his albums from the 2000's (doldrums, house arrest, worn copy) that deserve recognition. everything he's done since 2010 has just been well executed AM pastiche, whereas the early stuff was like a pastiche of something that never even existed ... he gets a lot of hate now for the person he has been ousted as and the albums he has put out on major labels, but u gotta have ur head up ur ass not to recognize how groundbreaking and influential his pre 2010 home recordings were

iirc the goal was to create a record that sounded like all the records they used to sample

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it was! but the result feels more like a studied recreation than its own thing. also it's approximately 10000000 years long. i agree with nv that "instant crush" is a jam though

i mean every daft punk record is long but i really feel the length of ram

there are probably several posts in the ram thread where i reveal myself as extremely down with studied recreations but i'm not denying the album felt exciting at the time

Is anyone else imagining Matt in a pub telling other UK ILXors "I knew I shouldn't have put Daft Punk in the opening post as I was typing it but I thought maybe people would just take it as the example I meant for it to be"?

yes lol

i *have* been trying to think of other examples

Gnarls Barkley finished #1/#5 in the P&J singles/albums polls

well that's obviously not the '10s so forget it

Great ILM polls from 2010 that never were: who will end the decade richest out of Diplo, Mark Ronson and Calvin Harris?


Flying Lotus maybe fits the thread premise but probably had already peaked before 2010 in terms of acclaim and has always been kinda first among equals in a scene that's not really club-orientated.

It doesn't seem like there are that many obvious examples tho really and too many lists already seem way too obedient and deferential to early-10s critical consensus.

well that's obviously not the '10s so forget it

But "Fuck You" was. Remember when critics went crazy over that song?

lol that won P&J too

Also I find it interesting that for all this talk about Daft Punk and Ariel Pink that Allmusic still upgraded Before Today and Random Access Memories to 5 stars during their end of the decade uprades.

considering how vaunted Let England Shake by PJ Harvey was in 2010, its disappointing to see the relative lack of placement in EOD lists - a shame b/c that album is fantastic & has held up really well (both in general and w/r/t PJH's catalog). I'm guessing this has to do w/ her not really releasing much else since, except for one album in 2016 that was pretty good, but not on the level.

Also, I haven't looked into many end of the decade lists, but I doubt "Blurred Lines" is on many of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88zQ_sf6BMg

do critics still rate R.A.P. Music / Run The Jewels?

Most of the Ariel Pink stuff from this decade is really good. Especially Before Today.

Remember that Dr. Dre album that people lost their shit over for like 2 weeks and then forgot about completely?

vice's best of albums of the 2010s list makes a case for salem's importance to ~the decade~ for what it's worth, i also think they're remembered fondly by a lot of people

sleigh bells

Ariel Pink's work got better in the 2010s anyway

not sure I agree. Worn Copy is the Ariel Pink album I really love.

I thought Benji was interesting for a few listens but don’t want to revisit it now.

Far Side Virtual is something, I think its relentless cheeriness is kind of hard to take but maybe it will be a rediscovered classic a few decades from now

Round and Round is great though