Previously critically acclaimed and/or successful acts who are already being written out of attempts at '10s canon-building

Was 'One More Time' not a huge huge hit in the US? Seems like that was the big mainstream crossover household name choooon that broke them over here

Never liked it, and it actively put me off listening to Discovery for a long time

I think One More Time was a minor hit in the US -- I def remember hearing it, seeing it on MTV, but I don't think it was ubiquitous

yeah I remember seeing the video a few times but iirc people got sick of it pretty fast

"Harder Faster Better Stronger" was the big one, maybe cuz it was a bit more gimmicky while still being pretty great. I remember sites like YTMND & Ebaums using that tune a lot which in retrospect was not exactly insignificant

They've only got two worthwhile tracks: 'Da Funk' and 'Around the World'. Everything else is eminently disposable.

"One More Time" was a "oh I've heard this in a sporting arena"-style hit in the US; it only got to #61 on the charts.

The funny thing with Random Access Memories is that it's an explicit attack on the whole scene Daft Punk spawned, instead going back to 'real' music made with real musicians and based on real grooves, and with real singers like Pharrell. So it was a late reckoning of their influence, but combined with an attack on everything they'd made before.

I don't think it needs to be completely 'written out' of the music history, it's a good album with a lot of weird tracks, but it was definitely massively overrated in 2013. Or whenever.

There's loads of enervated Pitchorkish stuff from the early 10s that doesn't seem to have survived in reputation, most of what they were repping in 2011 barely gets talked about now.

In retrospect the 'watching the end of a party through smoke' torpid sadsack end of R&B won the battle for attention but the shine appears to have come off 'House of Balloons' in the interim, certainly compared to Frank Ocean etc.

My theory about the predictable but no less infuriating embrace of Ariel Pink in 2010: an abashed cop-a-feel toward acknowledging '70s pop was cool but still needing lo-fi incompetence to sell it.

The history of indie music in the 21st century in one sentence

They've only got two worthwhile tracks: 'Da Funk' and 'Around the World'. Everything else is eminently disposable.

nah, there's actually a bunch of great stuff on Human After All, plus "Rolling and Scratching" is A+

(although I do agree that they were never the Best House Group In The World)

xp to Fred - another part of that was the fact that the album was very meticulously produced and expertly engineered, the polar opposite of the heavily brickwalled & side-chained stuff on the charts full of blaring compressed synth noises. trends which Daft Punk helped usher in of course.

I still jam Daftendirekt all the time

I don't support Daft Punk revisionism, just RAM revisionism

(although I do agree that they were never the Best House Group In The World)

the 2007 pyramid tour made them seem that way for a moment. their singles were classic but I never felt the LPs were on par with The Chemical Brothers, much less say Underworld

If you'm desperate for a stadium act then you don't get House music is the thing

All those big gig duos are just the student disco dance experience writ more or less large

Random Access Memories was also made to be something not so easy to sample and that might be a factor in its critical 'decline' given context. More than that though it's too studied a homage for it to really stand up as a record with real cultural impact this decade.

And regarding Ariel Pink it's not so evident on Before Today but the subsequent records operate more like John Maus fwiw (I'm not really bothering to check lists at least not yet but I would've thought We Must Become The Pitiless... is still turning up in a few of them)

This thread is making me want to pull out the Daft Punk live album, which is the only thing I still own by them.

This is probably still my favorite employment of Daft Punk's music in any context

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpU2HNp6Tjc

Random Access Memories was also made to be something not so easy to sample

i'm generally blah about RAM and debates around it, but i hadn't heard this before - they made it so that it couldn't be sampled easily? but why?

Discovery is still a front-to-back amazing album.
Still think Homework sounds like a bunch of okay-to-decent dance 12"s that would sound better with the pitch adjuster notched up a couple of tempos

Homework only really makes sense to me when I think of its primary audience as being DJs mixing it into other records

xposts I'm not basing it on anything they said themselves about it, I just think it's evident in its construction and the effect of this being to create something there would be no real point in sampling (at least not to try and create a hit around although I've lost enough interest in the charts over the last five years to not know enough if that's even true either!) both because of how busy it is on a technical level (without there being too much in the mix or just musically) and because it's so resolutely like what it's homaging that you would be better off just going straight to the source of that

that's how I think of it frogbs. I can't really listen to it as a 12 song album experience like I do Discovery

And this is why it's a better release than Discovery

Can you please stop talking about 22-year old albums on this thread?

RAM is better than Discovery though i still think both are sub-Homework, their album from 1997.

(knocks, sheepishly pokes head in) Hi, is this the thread where we discuss the work of musical recording artists Daft Punk?

I think there are two main factors at play here:

- Musicians or scenes who people just stopped checking for in the latter half of the decade, who went out of fashion or went nowhere or had minimal impact despite the hype at the time
- People who fell firmly on the wrong side of the generational/cultural/political watershed that took place in the middle of the decade.

Ariel Pink fits squarely in both categories.

big boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty

^^^ I listened to this the other day and most of it still holds up; very sad that it's been forgotten

I still support Random Access Memories. EDM fans wanted a deadmau5 album and they got a Deodato album instead. What's not to love?

In a similar case to Ariel Pink, Crystal Castles was also cancelled after Ethan Kath was accused of sexual misconduct from 4 women including former bandmate, Alice Glass.

Another act which fell from critical grace in the later part of the decade, but which was well beloved in the first half of it: Arcade Fire.

Loved CC second album but yeah that has sunk like a stone in my listening since Glass spoke about that

iirc there was an ilx post that characterized random access memories as daft punk doing in a more obvious way what they had already achieved on discovery, synthesizing the quincy jones productions and jazz fusion and yacht rock records in their collection into dance music. i like ram, but that has felt more and more otm to me as time passes

iirc the goal was to create a record that sounded like all the records they used to sample

Not completely ignored but other acts which were strongly hyped around mid-decade but had some of that early love fade away: Blood Orange and Dev Hynes related projects, Actress, Kurt Vile, Deerhunter, Flying Lotus, James Blake, Bon Iver.

I just love Instant Crush and don't care about contextualising DP's fashionability

Put on Blood Orange recently and it just felt really, really thin. I think some of those names will survive the 10's though. xp

"Harder Faster Better Stronger" was the big one, maybe cuz it was a bit more gimmicky while still being pretty great. I remember sites like YTMND & Ebaums using that tune a lot which in retrospect was not exactly insignificant

2007: I think it was 'Stronger' by Kanye & the accompanying video that really cemented Daft Punk into mainstream consciousness in the US. The massive buzz around the 2007 Alive tour added to that as well.

yeah ariel pink doesn't really belong on any best album lists for this decade, save maybe pom pom, and even that is a stretch. As alluded to above, it's really his albums from the 2000's (doldrums, house arrest, worn copy) that deserve recognition. everything he's done since 2010 has just been well executed AM pastiche, whereas the early stuff was like a pastiche of something that never even existed ... he gets a lot of hate now for the person he has been ousted as and the albums he has put out on major labels, but u gotta have ur head up ur ass not to recognize how groundbreaking and influential his pre 2010 home recordings were

iirc the goal was to create a record that sounded like all the records they used to sample

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it was! but the result feels more like a studied recreation than its own thing. also it's approximately 10000000 years long. i agree with nv that "instant crush" is a jam though

i mean every daft punk record is long but i really feel the length of ram

there are probably several posts in the ram thread where i reveal myself as extremely down with studied recreations but i'm not denying the album felt exciting at the time

Is anyone else imagining Matt in a pub telling other UK ILXors "I knew I shouldn't have put Daft Punk in the opening post as I was typing it but I thought maybe people would just take it as the example I meant for it to be"?

yes lol

i *have* been trying to think of other examples

New album in a couple months iirc

maybe that will remind everyone of the previous hype*. . . but not soon enough to make the end of decade lists.

(*hype i never understood, tbh.)

to me, the early part of the decade was characterized by following a lot of bedroom pop that I don't see super heavily represented in these lists, but felt like they were talked/blogged about a lot. I get it; a lot of it hasn't aged the best and is mostly a genre where a lot of those artists cut their teeth rather than make their best stuff, but I still find a lot of that stuff to be charmingly economical but serious songwriting. a lot of the buzzy guitar bands are also less represented than I thought they'd be but I wouldn't say written out (cymbals eat guitars, cloud nothings, that kind of thing)