I had to actually check a week or so ago to see whether this was coming out this year or next. So clearly I'm v pumped.
― A Lifeless Ordinary (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 December 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
lando is great and will always have a special place in my heart for his role in the best scene of rotj (the first scene over endor when they realize that it's, uh, a trap)
― jacquees, full of cobras (voodoo chili), Thursday, 5 December 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
thank god someone is out here asking the questions that matter
pic.twitter.com/PXuNXTfbRi— Bad Legal Takes (@BadLegalTakes) December 9, 2019
― a synthesis of Trotskyism and Ufology (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 12:24 (four years ago) link
Like, a creative citizens arrest?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link
There aren't many problems that can't be resolved with a fan fiction council, ime.
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:00 (four years ago) link
disney is famously forgiving of copyright infringement, i can't see what could possibly go wrong
― a synthesis of Trotskyism and Ufology (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link
Maybe SW should be and Choose Your Own Adventure
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link
Unhealthy enthusiasm is nine-tenths of the law, iirc.
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link
xpost Doesn't matter what you choose, all stories end with the death star exploding.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
there are only three stories: man vs man, man vs death star, and death star vs death star
― Simon H., Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link
Man vs Death Star features Hulk Hogan cameo
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link
Forget a cameo, if I were the producer of a franchise whose fanbase bitched this much, Hulk Hogan would be promoted to star in all forthcoming installments. Maybe even in multiple roles as if it were a mid-period Eddie Murphy joint.
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link
for motivation Abrams had to tell Hulk to imagine the Death Star was Gawker
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link
shit sorry I forgot the fourth story, hulk vs gawker
― Simon H., Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link
https://media1.tenor.com/images/373ed593a25afb96bad7bdad96ff1c29/tenor.gif
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
speaking of Old Lunch, here comes mine
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link
[INT: DEATH STAR COMMAND DECK. GENERAL HUX and KYLO REN are watching a flickering holographic message from rebel leader HULK HOGAN]
HULK: lemme tell ya, brother, hulkamania is gonna be runnin' wild over the death star, just like i ran wild over bubba the love sponge's wife
― a synthesis of Trotskyism and Ufology (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link
oh god
― a u.s. government department (mh), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
that reddit post is great bc the poster is basically asking what if star wars fans made their own content that didnt contain star wars branded elements - "Disney doesnt own the rights to lasers, space, people using abilities, etc" - in other words, create original intellectual property. But their brain is so warped by 21st-century fandom that they cant quiiiite grasp the idea of content thats not from preexisting IP, so theyre like "what if star wars, but NOT star wars, it would be like, OTHER star wars, could we get in trouble for it being star wars?"
Like hes hit upon the idea of it being possible for something other than star wars to exist but cant quite figure out how to articulate it from within his worldview of 'star wars is everything'. Kind of thrilling to read tbh, like someone trying to break out of the matrix
― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link
even the reddit people mocking the OP cant conceive of the idea non-branded creativity: "Just because you don't like the Disney movies doesnt mean you can make your OWN movies! How spoiled of you!"
― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link
What's even the point of a story without droids or at least one jedi in it, and how would that even work, I don't, I can't (nose begins to freely bleed)
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link
In a galaxy far, far up my own ass
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
at last, spaceballs 2: the search for more money
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
I think assuming the person wants a space fantasy that's similar to Star Wars but isn't Star Wars is a really generous read of the question
They really want their own cultivated fandom where they toss out a bunch of things, throw other stuff in from non-canon books, and then write new fanfic or create fan movies. I don't think they hit on something non-Star Wars, but just want a Star Wars that panders directly to their own ideas about what should happen
― a u.s. government department (mh), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link
i ended up on some reddit thread about people's creative dreams and so many of them were to write or create a star wars comic or something in the marvel universe, etc
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link
I'm kind of sympathetic to that? Starry-eyed kids wanting to do something they find cool.
On the other hand, the best fiction that takes place in some established property tends to come from people who made their bones coming up with original ideas and creating new stories who then take on some corporate work because it pays and they just happen to be a fan
― a u.s. government department (mh), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link
I don't think they hit on something non-Star Wars, but just want a Star Wars that panders directly to their own ideas about what should happen
― a u.s. government department (mh), Tuesday, December 10, 2019 9:30 AM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I assume it would be exactly like the existing Star Wars except now they're fleshlightsabers.
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link
And, take it from me, it's pretty easy to just imagine that the jedi are constantly fucking their weapons whenever they're offscreen.
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
I'm sure Eliza has some good feedback on this, but I think "what fans want" runs the gamut from people who want a badass Luke Skywalker and don't care about books all the way to crazed people who think they should have adapted books written in the 90s verbatim for the new movies
― a u.s. government department (mh), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link
my creative dream is to write a comic about superheroes set in the Maus universe
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
it wouldn't be the first time that star wars merch has been sex-toy-adjacent
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-VUqq51FmwZA%2FT587azgoLII%2FAAAAAAAAGUw%2FYI2IBvPN6ZY%2Fs1600%2FJarJarBinksTongue.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
― a synthesis of Trotskyism and Ufology (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link
tbh I should write some horrible fanfic and see if I can get some traction
there should be a Skywalker/not-dead Boba Fett showdown, obviously
― a u.s. government department (mh), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link
I think the sort of fan who, with any degree of seriousness, proposes a 'let's take over this franchise when the installment which hasn't even been released yet inevitably disappoints us!' is the sort of fan who fundamentally resists change within said franchise and who might ideally restrict themselves to whatever portion of the franchise they love and accept but would rather project their frustration over things they can't control in their own life onto a gargantuan thing that they were never going to have any control over and pretend that their projected frustration is both legitimate and proportionate.
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link
Lol bizarro.
Glad my work headset was muted when i saw that
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link
the future is Solo twins sex fiction obv
― a u.s. government department (mh), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link
Upon reflection, it occurs to me that the actions of both Lucas and Disney are somewhat responsible for giving overzealous fans the notion that this particular franchise can be redacted, remixed, slapped up, flipped and rubbed down according to one's whims with little respect for what came before. I mean you can't even watch the goddamn original cuts of the OG trilogy anywhere legitimate, fer chrissakes.
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link
Resurrect Han Solo and have him travel around the galaxy abruptly shooting people.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
I still find it hard to buy that Greedo didn't shoot first, maybe because rodians have permanent o-face.
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
Old Lunch otm. For all the talk about how the Star Wars fans are the most entitled fan group there is, I don't think it's often enough pointed out how awfully the franchise has been handled.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link
Let alone by the independently wealthy auteur himself, who had full creative control! The closest competition could be the Alien series, where after two masterpieces and a whole bunch of misfires or shit, the originator returns and ... makes equally bad if not worse sequels. (Though to be fair, at least they looked great, which is more than you can say for the prequels.)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link
*extremely prequel-defender voice* covenant is probably the third best alien movie imo
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link
Damning with faint praise. "Covenant" is to the Alien series what Scott's "Hannibal" (the movie) was to the "Silence of the Lambs" series. Just because it's sort of aware of its overheated ridiculousness doesn't make it any smarter/better.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
I just think Star Wars is kinda in a league of it's own, what with the endless tinkering of the original trilogy on top. So you have three beloved cultural milestones, but nobody can see the versions they remember. Then you have three universally hated prequels. And a sequel trilogy, which seems to have been unplanned and ricochetted back and forth between two creators with very different ideas. And some spinoffs, of which one was well liked, and one bombed. It's really impressive, actually.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link
Don't forget an expanded universe the volume of which, over the course of a couple decades, came to dwarf the amount of filmed material (largely released while the films were 'on a break') and which was mercilessly purged the moment Disney took the reins.
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
Can you imagine the Doctor Who peeps saying, 'yeah, all that shit people made while the show was on hiatus for years and years totally isn't canon anymore, way to waste your time and money nerds'
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link
OMG, I'm slowly coming around to the unhealthy perspective of the obsessive SW fanbase.
TAKE BACK THE 'WARS
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link
The Disney retcon of what is now the "Legends" EU stuff was harsh and overbearing, but I think it was coming one way or another if more movies were going to be made. That EU spun off so much material that it was going to be near impossible not to step on the toes of some part of the EU.
Of course, now seeing how myopic and tantrum-y the fanbase is anyway, not sure it matters.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link
Meaning some sort of reckoning with the timeline and EU was inevitable, I think. But they did minimize the EU in an awful way.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
I'd like to see a series that takes place 100 years after the new movie, about a wandering Death Star that's trying to learn the lost art of planet destruction.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link
I have thought (not too hard) about the following angle -- what if Lucasfilm had made the new film series an actual reboot, not a continuation of the original story? The Force Awakens could have been refashioned into a straight-up reboot, with relatively few adjustments (remove Han & Chewie, chunks of the backstory, etc.). They could have started fresh and avoided the need to refashion the old continuity, and maybe it would have still been as successful. (I generally like the new movies, and I'm not saying this as a complaint... just a "thought experiment.")
― Inapt Authority (morrisp), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link