Issa Rae's "Insecure" HBO show

s4 in 2020

whew ok, wouldn't be the first time hbo bailed on an amazing show

i love rae but i think, given the way s3 played out and the example set by other young showrunners, s4 is going to be diminishing returns primarily because she's dealing with so many other projects simultaneously.

Agggghhh the most recent ep w the block party & Issa/Molly fight made me so sad :(
Realizing full well that I’m not its intended audience, I can still say honestly that I love this show.

the movie with Kumail is due out on Netflix later this month

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2020 season is nominated in the 2020 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2020 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends After January 29, 2021

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (3 minimum, 25 maximum, ranked by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

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i am finally on the insecure train - binged S1 this weekend and loving it

i will report back when i am caught up bcz i am obv WAAAY behind

oh yay this seems like a show you will love

i am dragging out the last episodes because i don't want it to be over. i love this show!!
did not vote in the above poll though

i keep seeing the tweet storm every sunday and was like, ok i need to be on this

and Keke Palmer was on Desus & Mero not long ago & they were legit as excited as they were for Bobby Shmurda

s2 finale

just a short recap of where i am at

issa is a MESS good god
i love molly SO much…also a mess
lawrence can fuck off, he is like a handsome bowl of cold oatmeal
daniel idk but here’s nut in your eye (sorry)

muffled (- dro is crazy hot-) muffled
but my god he is like a human flesh-eating virus suuuuuuuuch a bad idea molly no

i looooooooooooove this show

everyone in this show is so attractive & have much good teeth, it makes me want to put on a dress & leave my house lol jk i wont

ok i am caught up

Issa & Nathan zzzz
I mean, he’s alright and is nice to her when he’s not shutting down but idk it just doesnt feel like anything much.

Issa is still a mess, she is not off the hook.

I am annoyed that Lawrence STILL in the picture? Jfc. She just circles these dudes like dishwater in a drain, I wish she’d just find a cool new dude

Lawewnce is so … trifling.

Molly & Taurean tho!? YES
He is grown & she has grown … v good
Molly’s shit has been really intense & i love seeing the changes her character has gone through.

Overall I love this show, I love the vibes, sure its patchy & frustrating at times & this season has been weird but it has really hooked me in! its been a real joy finally watching it

The latest episode bugged me a lot. When you’re this close to the finish line don’t be fucking around with narrative gimmickry. Just gimme plot plot plot and RESOLVE EVERYTHING. Tie it up in a bow and send everyone on their way.

it's been a bad season tbh. the molly/mom stuff is tonally all over the place and issa's back and forth love life doesn't stick to any recognizable narrative. it's engaging in its worst habits and stringing out a season that could have been a closing movie if there wasn't $$$$$ to be had

I sort of agree? At least, I don't feel very invested in it. I thought S4 was great in its exploration of Issa and Molly drifting away from each other. There doesn't seem to be the same kind of coherent narrative arc this season.

i think insecure was a great show at one point and its willingness to explore friendship among women, mental health, impostor syndrome and a host of black community related issues makes it a still important show but, except for issa rae's continuing reign as queen of physical comedy, there's not much exemplary going on here that matters, especially in terms of how the narrative is being structured.

I'm an episode behind rn, but the girls' party episode was so good I kept thinking I wish that had been the series finale.

yeah that was a great episode

The finale was kind of whatever, but high Taurean in the episode prior might have been the funniest thing on the show

yeah i was kinda “eh”

but there is sonething really touching about the character journeys of Issa, Molly, even Lawrence. Like where they started and where they ended up, personally, emotionally etc.

The Kelly reveal in this ep was a bit much. too hand wavey, “yada yada and then this happened” like ok *whatnow*!??

The documentary special was pretty cool tho, lots of nice interviews w crew & showrunners. gave me a better feeling for the finale like “aw you guys”

Very disappointed by the Issa parts of the finale. A huge amount of Lawrence's assholishness was just handwaved away. I mean, he was shit from episode 1 and now he's there at the finish line? And Issa's the stepmother to his kid and ...happy about that? That said, Kelli's storyline was interesting, Molly's storyline was good... very much a mixed bag. But it made me laugh really fucking hard several times, especially when Lawrence called while Issa was in the bathroom and mirror-Issa said in full death metal voice, "DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE".

yeah that was good

also Kelli smacking Ahmal’s cup out of his hand at the birthday party

i can’t stand lawrence really at all but in the context of the show & Issa they really do seem to love each other so 🤷🏻‍♀️

slightly better nathan’s ghosting ass

Plot points aside this show ALWAYS makes me laugh, like a real LOL laugh. I am on ep 9, 10 min in and I already loled at Issa biting into a too-hot mac & chz ball. Relatable! That's part of what I love about this show.

i cant remember which episode but when she meets lawrence at that bar & falls flat on her face in front of everyone - i felt v seen in a delightful way lol

issa rae is pretty much my favorite physical comedian

Yeah, she's amazing. Her comedy feels so natural.

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2021 season is nominated in the ILX TV poll, with voting ending this weekend:

ILX's Best Television of 2021 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends After January 31, 2022

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (3 minimum, 25 maximum, ranked by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

Since this is the general issa rae thread -- is anyone watching RAP SH!T?!?! i am in love with this show. the episodes keep getting better and i don't think cliff is going to last after this last one. yikes.

i haven’t started yet but am looking forward to it!

Picking up the Rap Sh!t talk, this show is v v good

I was surprised and delighted to see there’s a new season!!

Season 2 isn’t quite the laugh riot of season 1 but it is still very enjoyable

Having watched ep 6 i had to go to the chat shit podcast

Lots of stuff happened in ep 6

chat shit hosts otm about duke/chastity and mia's mom
actually they are otm about everything but ^^^ is what i went to the chat shit for
also

oops i forgot to finish that last part -- also otm about mia and lamont

Ooh I guess I’d better dig into Chat Shit, I’m very curious what they have to say