Bond #25: NO TIME TO DIE

yup. even QoS, while incompetently directed, is more interesting than either of 'em

eh, I like them all

I'm getting too old for I'm getting too old for this shit

lol i watched the trailer with the sound off and his facial expression every single time is like CONFUSED OLD MAN DOESN'T KNOW WHY THESE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT HIM

it's pretty much the same with the sound on

god almighty are they still doing "i'm too old for this shit?"

haven't watched the trailer but tbf Craig is now the second-oldest Broccoli Bond, and only two years younger than Never Say Never Again Connery

a bond film has to be really really really shitty for me not to like it too, and i hate skyfall and spectre, they're empty and cynical and negatively influenced by the nolan batmans

yeah I think there are maybe three good Bond films but Spectre is the first one I didn't have fun watching & felt aggressively insulted by at the time (Skyfall took a few hours: saw it in IMAX with a group of dudes and we walked out enthusing. by lunch the next day I sent a group email formally recanting my enthusiasm and naming bad shit that bugged me. iirc the stalking & shootout scene at the end is well done in itself, but the dumb Burton / Nolan portentous daddy issues stuff is ladled onto the house so badly)

Connery's Bond in NSNA may have been older but he didn't look tired like Craig's Bond looks in this trailer. Connery put more effort into NSNA than Craig did in Casino Royale - he looked a bit tired then and that was supposedly 'young inexperienced Bond'.

hoping that craig dies at the end and lashana lynch is the new 007 tbh

^^^ her character is the only reason I might even bother seeing this movie.

i disagree so much, craig enlivens casino royale

Craig was IMO so outstanding in CR — I think the subsequent performances he’s given haven’t been bad per se it’s more that the OTT portentousness of the films themselves is an ill fit for Bond and while he gives it his best shot it’s tough to overcome and find his way to liven up the performances w/levity when every other character is darkly intoning about your painful past and others are bragging that they’re “the author of all your pain”.

CR was a perfect balance for him w/the humor and toughness mixed with a vulnerability that felt real and not narratively false (cf his breakdown at the end of Skyfall).

yeah I think that's one of the reasons CR is so good, tough/"gritty" Bond cuts satisfyingly against the relatively not-that-grim movie around him.

that and the setpieces are just so easy to follow

i will go on the same journey i have been on for the past x bond films ie remain IRRATIONALLY, EXCITABLY STOKED for everything until evidence proves otherwise

trailer looks great i am excite

:)

it’s more that the OTT portentousness of the films themselves is an ill fit for Bond

it's an ill fit for Craig too! the dude from Logan Lucky could bring so much to a late-Connery / Lazenby / early Moore style fun spy adventure

gonna see Knives Out tonight, hoping for notes of goofy Craig in that too

imo you will not be disappointed!

Connery's Bond in NSNA may have been older but he didn't look tired like Craig's Bond looks in this trailer.

It's been a while since I've seen NSNA but IIRC the entire plot is "lol, look how old and fat Bond is now, watch him get winded walking up stairs"

love Sean but

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BN2NlZDg5ODgtYjM0My00NzZiLTg5ZmYtYTVjMjk3M2YxOWFhXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjUwNzk3NDc@._V1_.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqqYoLRTgI8
It's revealed immediately afterwards to have been a training exercise, and M chews out Bond for being out of shape, but really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecu77iLGLBs

After the initial bit at Shrublands, Bond's supposed lack of fitness is never mentioned again, and he spends the rest of the movie kicking ass as good as he did in From Russia With Love.

all the grace and vigor of Ernest Borgnine in The Wild Bunch

yeah it's in the upper tiers of bond movies imo. the "lol vegetable shake???" stuff (to which Spectre, bafflingly, paid homage) is the weakest part of it. obv not the best connery bond but not the worst either.

NSNA is a solid flick though, when i was a kid i had zero idea about the chronology of where it fell in terms of Bond movies let alone the particulars of the rights issues but it's not like Connery or any of the Bonds were ever *not* a bit worn.

connery is more engaged in nsna than he is in diamonds are forever

I'm in danger of drifting off the thread topic, but I like how the villain Largo's motive in NSNA is that he's a bored billionaire who thinks it'll be a big laugh. Almost like Elon Musk.

back on topic: the logo for Bond #25 looks like a 70s action movie, possibly starring Charles Bronson or George Peppard.

i don’t like NSNA? - maybe bc I didnt see it until much later in life

idk

xpost yes! i like it too for tbat reason

also excited that we may get GUNFIGHTING IN THE SNOW - my fave

tbf Craig is now the second-oldest Broccoli Bond, and only two years younger than Never Say Never Again Connery

poss could have phrased this less distractingly by saying “ten years older than Connery was when he quit for the second time”

imo you will not be disappointed

ha ha yes

hopefully now that he is free of Bond he can start cracking out a Benoit Blanc mystery every three years

if Rian Johnson has to quit his trilogy of Star Warses to meet this pace, oh well

Amazing there will have been 3 Star Wars films and 2 spin offs since the last Bond.

that's one word for it, aye

all the grace and vigor of Ernest Borgnine in The Wild Bunch

― omar little, Wednesday, December 4, 2019 5:03 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is such a Morbsian comment I had to check it twice!

regarding the trailer: stop ruining movies, andrew lloyd webber

hoping that craig dies at the end and lashana lynch is the new 007 tbh

^^^ her character is the only reason I might even bother seeing this movie.

― just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:02 (one month ago)

I'm going to go further than this and say that I hope Craig's Bond dies in the gun barrel sequence. Like Bond fumbles getting his gun out and gets shot by person whose POV we've been seeing all these years. Then the pre-titles scene is Ralph Fiennes' M walking into a conference room like Alan Sugar on The Apprentice. He sits down, points at an unseen figure across the table, and says "I want you to be my business partner the next 007!". And then the camera cuts to another angle and it's revealed to be Lashana Lynch's character. BOOM! roll Maurice Binder inspired title sequence.

Bond #25? No, time to die!

This song reminds me of this spiritual i sang in choir called "Ain't Got Time to Die"

Hm!

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51112742

I'm going to go further than this and say that I hope Craig's Bond dies in the gun barrel sequence.

So... everything we've seen in the trailer would be part of the pre-credit sequence?

wait I just read Ned's link, what

I'm just going to assume, given that it's Billie Eilish, that entire song is about being too busy to kill yourself

I was kinda hoping for Michael Kiwanuka tbh

opening credits is just Rami Malek dancing to Bad Guy in a bunch of locations as Daniel Craig chases after him in the background

Best Bond yet.

I don't have time to die
And that's ok
And here's why

Should be noted that the actual score itself is by...

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— Hans Zimmer (@HansZimmer) January 14, 2020

thrilled that no sam mendes always means no thomas newman

Yeah Thomas Newman was a complete misfit

I was thinking through the last couple and it's dawned on me that the intense, brooding gravity given to family and legacy that Mendes seemed to revel in suffocated any hint of the playfulness that peeked through. The parodic goofiness of many of the Moore and latter era Connery films has been something the franchise has recoiled from, but it was an over-correction.

There's hardly anyone in Mendes's Bond movies who isn't a spy, master criminal, or family member of the above. Civilians appear fleetingly in crowd shots, if at all.

Fingers crossed that Fukunaga does better

Hopefully. Unfortunately Waltz' shitty Blofeld's still in it, as apparent in the trailer.

I thought that character had potential, in that they kept hinting at him being not only ominous but truly weird, but the weird part of his torture chair hijinks ("I'm going to selectively destroy parts of Bond's brain!") fell short and it just seemed like normal villain torture, they gave the cat no real acknowledgment, and the entire "I believe we're meant to be impressed" thing about the museum room with the meteor fragment fell flat. Mendes seemed to get that the villains should be eccentric but was too *serious* to lean into it to the point of being dismissive.

Let Blofeld get mocked for being a weirdo obsessed with his daddy loving Bond more. Is the cat his best friend? Does he sit around admiring his rock in a room? He's out there killing entire classes of people through Spectre -- give him some shit for doing all that only to sit alone with a cat in the middle of the desert!

Dunno - I miss Telly Savalas