Bond #25: NO TIME TO DIE

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daniel craig lookin' leathery

"Big Joe Fuck and the Bogalusa Maniac" (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 14:43 (five months ago) link

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Simon H., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 14:45 (five months ago) link

god almighty are they still doing "i'm too old for this shit?"

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 14:46 (five months ago) link

I'm getting too old for I'm getting too old for this shit

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 14:47 (five months ago) link

also is it just me or are there some very awkward beats in that trailer

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 14:57 (five months ago) link

This looks dope, I don't know what jaded ish y'all are on

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:29 (five months ago) link

Although I reserve the right to be extremely pissed when they kill the black female 00 to explore Bond's feelings

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:30 (five months ago) link

hoping that craig dies at the end and lashana lynch is the new 007 tbh

"Big Joe Fuck and the Bogalusa Maniac" (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:33 (five months ago) link

much more likely they gain a grudging respect for one another even as he sadly realizes he's no longer "fit to purpose" and respawns as....adam driver

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:35 (five months ago) link

This looks dope, I don't know what jaded ish y'all are on

― brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, December 4, 2019 8:29 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

gbx, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:12 (five months ago) link

no longer watch the films but this trailer seems more promising than the last few, looks to have been scaled back into an actual spy movie

imago, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:22 (five months ago) link

a vision of a better world

Julie Walters suggested herself as a possible female villain in this film, such as Rosa Klebb, while working with Bond producer Barbara Broccoli on Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool (2017). Walters, admittedly, had not heard back as of July 2017.

"Big Joe Fuck and the Bogalusa Maniac" (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:22 (five months ago) link

The trailer has some mildly odd beats but trailer editing is usually misleading in ways good bad and neutral. It does look very good visually, the action seems a bit more dynamic which—as I’ll never shut up about—was the issue w/the Mendes Bonds, which made billions but also showed the risks of going with a high profile middlebrow hack behind the lens vs an action veteran (one reason Casino Royale was great beyond the script and the casting was the Martin Campbell factor). Still will be disappointed if they don’t deploy Craig’s extremely excellent sense of humor, which was used in a very natural and seamless and effective way in CR, only to cast it aside for grimdark chaos your past haunts you James stuff.

omar little, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:41 (five months ago) link

maybe they edited the repeated nutshots James takes over the course of the movie out of the trailer

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:43 (five months ago) link

Thanks for reminding me about the chair scene in casino royale

omar little, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:45 (five months ago) link

haha anytime

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:46 (five months ago) link

"Feeling fiery today, James?"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:46 (five months ago) link

damn this looks much better than the last two. hope it is

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:47 (five months ago) link

I guess it probably doesn't help that I thought both Skyfall and Spectre were beautiful but boring, so this one looking nice doesn't excite me much on its own

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:47 (five months ago) link

i'm not necessarily just reacting to the look, but then it's ridiculous to make any judgments about a movie from the trailer etc.

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:51 (five months ago) link

regardless, feels like it has way more of an identity of its own than spectre, which was a rehash of old bond themes made 10000x worse

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:52 (five months ago) link

"we'll have a train fight, like from russia with love, except it won't be filmed half as well!" "we'll bring in blofeld, but he'll secretly be bond's brother!!!!"

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:53 (five months ago) link

hope waltz remains caged in glass for the runtime

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:54 (five months ago) link

I want to make an ortolan joke now but I can't get the formulation right

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:55 (five months ago) link

but then it's ridiculous to make any judgments about a movie from the trailer etc.

― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, December 4, 2019 9:51 AM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

you do know this is ilxor dot com right

gbx, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:13 (five months ago) link

Waltz would have made a great Roger Moore-era Bond villain.

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:14 (five months ago) link

you do know this is ilxor dot com right

― gbx, Wednesday, December 4, 2019 10:13 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i do and i complained about the same thing in the knives out thread

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:18 (five months ago) link

This looks dope, I don't know what jaded ish y'all are on

I watched Spectre a couple of years ago and i'm still angry

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:24 (five months ago) link

"This looks dope, I don't know what jaded ish y'all are on"

no shit. I mean a Bond film has to be really, really, really shitty for me to not like it. I like all the Craig Bond films. This looks good too. I'm not expecting cinema I just want to be entertained and watch people shoot shit while speaking in english accents and wearing suits. Ana de Armas better have some lines though.

akm, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:37 (five months ago) link

a bond film has to be really really really shitty for me not to like it too, and i hate skyfall and spectre, they're empty and cynical and negatively influenced by the nolan batmans

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:39 (five months ago) link

yup. even QoS, while incompetently directed, is more interesting than either of 'em

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:39 (five months ago) link

eh, I like them all

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:41 (five months ago) link

I'm getting too old for I'm getting too old for this shit

lol i watched the trailer with the sound off and his facial expression every single time is like CONFUSED OLD MAN DOESN'T KNOW WHY THESE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT HIM

j., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:52 (five months ago) link

it's pretty much the same with the sound on

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:59 (five months ago) link

god almighty are they still doing "i'm too old for this shit?"

haven't watched the trailer but tbf Craig is now the second-oldest Broccoli Bond, and only two years younger than Never Say Never Again Connery

a bond film has to be really really really shitty for me not to like it too, and i hate skyfall and spectre, they're empty and cynical and negatively influenced by the nolan batmans

yeah I think there are maybe three good Bond films but Spectre is the first one I didn't have fun watching & felt aggressively insulted by at the time (Skyfall took a few hours: saw it in IMAX with a group of dudes and we walked out enthusing. by lunch the next day I sent a group email formally recanting my enthusiasm and naming bad shit that bugged me. iirc the stalking & shootout scene at the end is well done in itself, but the dumb Burton / Nolan portentous daddy issues stuff is ladled onto the house so badly)

insecurity bear (sic), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:56 (five months ago) link

Connery's Bond in NSNA may have been older but he didn't look tired like Craig's Bond looks in this trailer. Connery put more effort into NSNA than Craig did in Casino Royale - he looked a bit tired then and that was supposedly 'young inexperienced Bond'.

hoping that craig dies at the end and lashana lynch is the new 007 tbh

^^^ her character is the only reason I might even bother seeing this movie.

just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:02 (five months ago) link

i disagree so much, craig enlivens casino royale

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:06 (five months ago) link

Craig was IMO so outstanding in CR — I think the subsequent performances he’s given haven’t been bad per se it’s more that the OTT portentousness of the films themselves is an ill fit for Bond and while he gives it his best shot it’s tough to overcome and find his way to liven up the performances w/levity when every other character is darkly intoning about your painful past and others are bragging that they’re “the author of all your pain”.

CR was a perfect balance for him w/the humor and toughness mixed with a vulnerability that felt real and not narratively false (cf his breakdown at the end of Skyfall).

omar little, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:21 (five months ago) link

yeah I think that's one of the reasons CR is so good, tough/"gritty" Bond cuts satisfyingly against the relatively not-that-grim movie around him.

that and the setpieces are just so easy to follow

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:29 (five months ago) link

i will go on the same journey i have been on for the past x bond films ie remain IRRATIONALLY, EXCITABLY STOKED for everything until evidence proves otherwise

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:33 (five months ago) link

trailer looks great i am excite

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:40 (five months ago) link

:)

it’s more that the OTT portentousness of the films themselves is an ill fit for Bond

it's an ill fit for Craig too! the dude from Logan Lucky could bring so much to a late-Connery / Lazenby / early Moore style fun spy adventure

gonna see Knives Out tonight, hoping for notes of goofy Craig in that too

insecurity bear (sic), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:43 (five months ago) link

imo you will not be disappointed!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:44 (five months ago) link

Connery's Bond in NSNA may have been older but he didn't look tired like Craig's Bond looks in this trailer.

It's been a while since I've seen NSNA but IIRC the entire plot is "lol, look how old and fat Bond is now, watch him get winded walking up stairs"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 21:48 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqqYoLRTgI8
It's revealed immediately afterwards to have been a training exercise, and M chews out Bond for being out of shape, but really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecu77iLGLBs

just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 21:59 (five months ago) link

After the initial bit at Shrublands, Bond's supposed lack of fitness is never mentioned again, and he spends the rest of the movie kicking ass as good as he did in From Russia With Love.

just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:01 (five months ago) link

all the grace and vigor of Ernest Borgnine in The Wild Bunch

omar little, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:03 (five months ago) link

yeah it's in the upper tiers of bond movies imo. the "lol vegetable shake???" stuff (to which Spectre, bafflingly, paid homage) is the weakest part of it. obv not the best connery bond but not the worst either.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:04 (five months ago) link


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