yeah thats the immediate one i remember
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link
i don't really believe in the whole imposing their will thing though
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
idk i think being unstoppable is valuable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZiK72JZpsY
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
btw this year i became totally comfortable crowning bron the GOAT
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
i watched a lakers game where he demolished a fourth quarter cause he felt like it then saw some old jordan clips thatre starting to look old and was just like.......its time
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link
now watch clips where LBJ quits on his team in ECF or where he loses a Finals to Dirk + role players while scoring < 18ppg on poor allaround shooting
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link
lol I'm actually fine with anyone having him as their GOAT. He's very very good at basketball and has been for a long time.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
and hes still dominant at 34, tho obvs doesnt have the energy level to do it all game every game
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
feel like you can make a case for MJ, kareem, or bron as the GOAT but that’s the list
― peloton for the painfully alone (m bison), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link
yeah those are the guys
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
jordan was so captivating at the time but when i watch his clips now it just doesnt hit the same, the game has progressed, naturally
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
I don’t think some magical thing happens in the playoffs. Giannis is the best player in the world and the only reason he wouldn’t be the best player in the playoffs is variance. The same was true for Lebron.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
MJ's shooting % starting falling by that age, and points/rebs/asts were all down a tick. LBJ basically still has same numbers for all those as he did in the typical late 20s athletic prime.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
There are certain players who don’t give a shit about the regular season and turn it on tho
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link
imho the offs are different
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, December 3, 2019 12:43 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
ding ding ding. lebron couldn’t win in the playoffs until he did. same will be true for giannis
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link
i'm with matt on this one, the only magical thing that happens is every game is vs a good team that isn't resting any players
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link
its not magical im sure u guys cld come up w some things thatre different about the playoffs its not hard
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link
theyre well known and make sense
― k3vin k., Tuesday, December 3, 2019 12:45 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
something mightve changed between the losing and winning something to ding about
They call fouls less and sometimes they totally shaft role players. Two things that I don’t seeing a big problem for Giannis (certainly wasn’t for Shaq)
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link
I mean do you think playoff officiating is what gets James Harden
its def a big part of it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link
giannis might want to think about making his game more like shaqs
imo the 2011 Finals were more about Dirk than Lebron
still hard to fault him too much when he got to the Finals all 4 years he was on the team then 4 more times with the Cavs, all with oddly constructed teams. when Jordan left to go play baseball the Bulls were still pretty decent, they won 55 games & a playoff series, meanwhile all of Bron's ex-teams utterly fell apart the instant he left
― frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link
Dude he’s shooting like 65% lol
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link
and he totally crushed until he met the raptors last year
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
Variance how do it work
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
thats fine if u dont watch basketball
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
all superstars go through a process of honing their games, making them bulletproof if they want to beat the best most prepared teams
When the raptors were up 2-0 on the raptors and Giannis was averaging like 27-15-5 was that because the raptors hadn’t activated playoff mode
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link
but i mean maybe playing the suns on wednesday night in january is the same as the ecf sure
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link
*bucks up 2-0
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
iirc thats when they switched kawhi onto him
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
Hmmm seems like this is all really matchup dependent and not a playoffs thing then
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link
playoff adjustments baby!
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link
Giannis had a bad game 3 and that’s all that matters
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
idk i dont think its difficult to see the flaws in giannis game
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link
matchups are more important in the offs cause teams have more time/incentive to prepare, its more strategic than the regular season where u m/l just have to play yr game and move on to the next
Took the league until game 3 of the eastern conference finals to solve his game, they then forgot
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link
HOT TAKE: playing the SAME good team for 4-7 games in a row is much different than anything else an NBA player deals with
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link
yep
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link
the playoffs are cool just my opinion, and the contrast w the regular season is one of the best things abt the nba
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link
having said all that if giannis doesnt actually have a very good team around him is prob a bigger factor, and siakam suddenly becoming a star and so forth
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
What I remember about the raptors-bucks series:-eric bledsoe being the worst player in the nba for a few games-that one time Kawhi dunked on Giannis and then Giannis swatted him or whatever
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
still if he wld stop getting suckered into low% jumpers hed be better off, but thats also based on how he plays if youre constantly handling the ball at the top of the key youre gonna have to take some js
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
some day there'll be a player similar to Giannis physically but a knock down shooter, yikes
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
all that becomes exploitable against very good defensive teams w time 2 prepare when small edges matter a lot
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link
one thing i recall and that series is kawhi just rising up and hitting jumpers in an undefendable fashion
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link
Kawhi was 11-32 from 3 in that series
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link