Hopkins was not good
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
burton reading leaden/golden echo is maybe the best thing humans have done
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link
No, I was wrong. My chosen four were Yeats/Plath/Heaney/Mahon. I think of Heaney a lot and bought several books of his, but Mahon I still know by heart <redacted> years later.
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
mahon cailin indeed
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link
Gyac I suspect we did the leaving the same year
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 06:01 (four years ago) link
Wouldn’t be surprised. What was your core text?
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 08:02 (four years ago) link
I want to say Macbeth
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 08:44 (four years ago) link
A fine vintage
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 09:20 (four years ago) link
same but id imagine from an earlier cycle
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link
ftfy
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link
well it's a given that one cannot simply agree with another's opinion, this is the irish thread
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 11:42 (four years ago) link
Speaking of vintages, I think pom and I are the same age. Jurd “Manly” Hopkins was not good.
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link
The sprung rhythms and talk of inscape and instress are all classic imo but I'm fond of poetry that aspires towards the condition of music (short of actual sound poetry, which lacks all the desirable qualities of language and music both).
I think we are the same age, yes. I'm a 1985-er.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:03 (four years ago) link
A fine year.That’s interesting. I may look at him again now that you’ve said that. I never had quite that association between the sounds and rhythms of poetry as I did with music in English - but I can still remember some of the Irish poems I learned because of their musicality.
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:07 (four years ago) link
I'm younger but I was quite young when I did the leaving
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link
Hopkins drew on Anglo-Saxon cadences so he was definitely working within a wholly different tradition (apologies for mentioning it itt).
xp
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link
It’a fine! What else is this thread for?!
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:13 (four years ago) link
In the absence of a The Anglo-Saxons thread...
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link
Anglo-Saxons is a kinda nonsense category tbf
― éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:17 (four years ago) link
It is kind of telling that the canonical Anglo-Saxon epic begins with a reference to the 'Spear-Danes'.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link
We've got our own Saxons, incidentally:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transylvanian_Saxons
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:23 (four years ago) link
Same!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons#Netherlands
The local language, although strongly influenced by standard Dutch, is still officially recognised as Dutch Low Saxon.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:24 (four years ago) link
Damn continental immigrants.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link
― éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:17 (fifty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
and don't ye behave like it
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link
happy to take my share of the blame but i've got enough self-loathing for one or two more if needed
― éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link
its valuable work and we surely appreciate it
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link
I did Hamlet and if nothing else it's almost certainly provided me with more University Challenge answers than any other subject
― Number None, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link
"leaving cert" is one of the fascinating concepts I've been introduced to by my favorite thriller writer Tana French, along with the staggeringly good idiom "fair play to you"
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link
fair play to here
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link
her, ffs
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
Both work.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
https://youtu.be/Z1vYs5LBC3c
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
silby what was it about the leaving cert that so intrigued
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
It does have a ring of the YA about it - Percy Jackson and the Leaving Certificate.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link
its the piece of paper that allows you to emigrate to 'mericawwww
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, December 3, 2019 9:23 AM (thirty-four minutes ago)
the mystery! What happens if you don't pass? Can you leave whenever you want? Where do you leave to? No way of knowing.
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
Well you can chuck it in anytime you like, but you can never leave
― Number None, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
p much
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
Did anyone else watch the film How to Cheat in the Leaving Cert? Amazing that Willie O’Dea was so het up about it, lol.
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link
I am reliably assured that this is a classic of the LC Irish curriculum by people younger than me:https://youtu.be/SW-tdaO2s9oWe never had anything so memorable, remember the children of Lir story and one about a drug addict. No films.
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
Lol u mean "gafa"
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link
What a pile of nonsense! Did it actually end with a chainsaw decapitation?
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
I don’t remember that at all if so. Apparently it was still on the curriculum recently?
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link
re: Heaney, did anyone catch the 'Seamus Heaney and the Music of What Happens' documentary on the bbc last week? I recorded it.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link
well I don't recall ever reading it all the way through, there were extracts in whatever textbook we used. But we did all have to go the see it at the Taidhbhearc and yes it definitely included that ending.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link
Plaxico that is extremely rtmi, why didn’t they teach us that bit? It was fairly dry as Gaeilge despite the subject matter.LBI, I will look at that when I’m home!
A Derry woman who is challenging a requirement that she renounce her British citizenship before she can legally identify as Irish wants the Government to back her campaign.Today Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said he would take up the case with the next British prime minister after the election there on 12 December. Emma DeSouza is challenging being automatically determined to be a British citizen under UK law rather than having a choice of Irish citizenship as provided for in the Good Friday Agreement.She said there remains a responsibility on the Irish Government as a co-guarantor to uphold and protect the agreement.
The case of Bloody Sunday veteran Soldier F has been adjourned until the new year to give legal representatives time to co-ordinate the 25 civilian witnesses which will be called to give evidence.
― gyac, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
On the one hand, I did get kissed for not being English yesterday.
On the other hand, our already-planned move to Scotland next year will definitely seem like bandwagon-jumping.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 13 December 2019 08:51 (four years ago) link
Après toi, le déluge
― I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 10:52 (four years ago) link
xp this happens to me every day, you’re not special
― gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 10:57 (four years ago) link