US Politics, December 2019: Profound procedural deficiencies

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shabooty, sha sha, shabooty ROLL CALL! shabooty, sha ha, shabooty:

Arizona’s 6th (David Schweikert, R) Solid Republican to Likely Republican
California’s 25th (Vacant, D) Likely Democratic to Solid Democratic
Illinois’ 6th (Sean Casten, D) Lean Democratic to Likely Democratic
Illinois’ 13th (Rodney Davis, R) Tilt Republican to Toss-up
Iowa’s 2nd (Open; Dave Loebsack, D) Toss-up to Tilt Democratic
Iowa’s 4th (Steve King, R) Lean Republican to Tilt Republican
Michigan’s 8th (Elissa Slotkin, D) Tilt Democratic to Lean Democratic
Michigan’s 11th (Haley Stevens, D) Lean Democratic to Likely Democratic
Minnesota’s 1st (Jim Hagedorn, R) Lean Republican to Tilt Republican
Minnesota’s 2nd (Angie Craig, DFL) Lean Democratic to Likely Democratic
New Hampshire’s 1st (Chris Pappas, D) Lean Democratic to Likely Democratic
Virginia’s 2nd (Elaine Luria, D) Tilt Democratic to Lean Democratic

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

also, barf warning: the house judiciary committee includes louis gohmert, jim jordan, AND matt gaetz.

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link

(barf suppressant: also pramila jayapal and ted lieu)

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

saw something on Twitter to the effect that the redrawn districts in NC have led to a projected two-member gain for the Dems.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

Intelligence Committee impeachment report coming tomorrow.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 03:52 (four years ago) link

Great! That's one more step ahead. But it will probably make the same case as was easily apparent from the public testimony from the major witnesses, tightened up, with some ancillary details added from acquired documentation, plus the depositions taken in private session from both 'major' and 'minor' witnesses. The public testimony was plenty enough to make a strong case, but it is always nice to leave few or no loose ends.

I very much hope that some further counts can be added to the eventual articles of impeachment, beyond just those generated by the Ukraine scandal. He needs to be called to account for so many of his actions it is hard to recall them all.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 04:38 (four years ago) link

Narrator: He was called to account for none of his actions.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link

don trump is the best vampire hunter ever! ever!!

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/472460-poll-majority-of-republicans-say-trump-better-president-than-lincoln

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

I like Presidents who don't free the slaves

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link

I prefer this level of honesty to the disingenuous 'party of Lincoln' bullshit the GOP trumpets as if they haven't done everything they could since the '60s to nullify any meaning that might once have possessed.

What Would Spoonman Do? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

Judging by what I've read, the Dem reps in Trump districts are really committed to keeping impeachment "focused" ie this one 'national security' issue only is relevant. As if DJT's personal enrichment of himself by smashing the emolument restraints are in any way "secure."

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

Arsonist members of former anti-arson organization declare current pro-arson chairman to be way cooler than founding anti-arson chairman, more at 11.

What Would Spoonman Do? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

funny detail in the full results of that poll, republican voters easily favor reagan over trump (59 to 41%)

so it's basically

REAGAN
TRUMP
LINCOLN

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

also, check out pg 288 of the full results (rank 8 republican presidents) to see that 8% of GOP voters would say that lincoln is the very WORST republican president out of the options provided (lincoln, eisenhower, nixon, ford, reagan, HW bush, W bush, trump)

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

gosh i wonder what their rationale for coming to that conclusion could possibly be

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

when you're in the company of legends, you gotta be legendary. sorry abraham lincoln

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

Green Party has lost its place on the Arizona ballot, after failing to turn in the 31k signatures necessary to qualify by Friday - https://t.co/lGutt12IOw

— Reid Wilson (@PoliticsReid) December 3, 2019

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

it's sad, they were a political party

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

This shit rules. It's like if Stanley Kubrick made a Hallmark movie. Obviously the Trumps should live in a toilet forever but their aesthetic is hilarious. https://t.co/Jdwfr7nXI2

— David Roth (@david_j_roth) December 2, 2019

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

lol at the camera sweeping across the ornament "BE BEST" spelled out in scrabble letters

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

it's quite a production

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

rich people really are the tackiest fuckers on earth

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

GILD THE CAGE FURTHER

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link

Incredible- pure class 🙏🏼🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/m9Cy709vyr

— Geoff De Weaver 🇺🇸 (@geoff_deweaver) December 2, 2019

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

View from the chopper as Trump makes his way across Central London.

Well played, @metpoliceuk Special Escort Group. 👏👏👏😂👍 pic.twitter.com/EbcWRVC4qT

— CivMilAir ✈ (@CivMilAir) December 2, 2019

полезный инструмент (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link

#Christmas

What Would Spoonman Do? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

FAKE NEWS

It was dark here when he arrived ( & I loathe him, so would love this old photoshop to be true)

— freya_theferret (@TheferretFreya) December 2, 2019

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

DEEZ faux NUTS

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

Trump says that, under the precedent being set by the Democrats, in the future someone is going to pick an orange out of the refrigerator and not like it and therefore decide to impeach the president.

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) December 3, 2019

orange man bad?

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-pushed-hard-for-company-owned-by-gop-donor-to-get-400-million-contract-it-just-did-despite-not-meeting-standards/

For months President Donald Trump has “personally and repeatedly urged the head of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers” to award a lucrative Defense Dept. contract to build a portion of his wall on the Southern border to a construction company owned by a GOP donor. On Monday, despite reports that the North Dakota company, Fisher Sand and Gravel, did not meet Defense Dept. standards and has a history of tax and environmental violations, the DoD awarded Fisher the $400 million contract, The Washington Post reports.

Trump reportedly has been so active in pushing for Fisher to be awarded the contract that at one point on Fox News the president told Sean Hannity his administration was dealing with the company’s owner, and declared the company had been “recommended strongly by a great new senator, Kevin Cramer.”

That Senator, Republican Kevin Cramer of North Dakota, has also been pushing for Fisher Sand and Gravel to get the contract despite its owner, Tommy Fisher, being a donor to Senator Cramer, The Independent reports.

President Trump has seen Tommy Fisher advocate for the contract in his multiple appearances on Fox News, the president’s favorite cable news channel.

“In phone calls, White House meetings and conversations aboard Air Force One during the past several months, Trump has aggressively pushed Dickinson, N.D.-based Fisher Industries to Department of Homeland Security leaders and Lt. Gen. Todd Semonite, the commanding general of the Army Corps,” The Washington Post reported in May. “The push for a specific company has alarmed military commanders and DHS officials.”

Tommy Fisher has ties to former White House adviser Stephen K. Bannon, Blackwater USA founder Erik Prince, ex-GOP congressman Tom Tancredo and former Kansas GOP secretary of state Kris Kobach. Bannon and Kobach have worked for Trump, Prince is the brother of Eduction Secretary betsy DeVos.

In an August report on Trump’s “brazen” corruption The Nation described the four men as “an all-star cast of grifters and white nationalists.”

“Tommy Fisher and his wife gave more than $10,000 — the maximum allowable contribution — to Cramer in 2018 as he ran for Senate, campaign finance records show. Fisher was Cramer’s guest at Trump’s State of the Union speech in February that year, and the CEO said he shook the president’s hand afterward,” The Washington Post notes, adding that “Trump backed Cramer last year in his campaign to unseat Democrat Heidi Heitkamp.”

A 2017 report from NBC affiliate 12 News (video below) states the city of Phoenix “filed 467 criminal charges” against Fisher Sand and Gravel, along with “2000 city and county violations.”

so like this would absolutely be an impeachable offense under any Democratic president right

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link

Oh don't be silly, Republicans wouldn't require as high a threshold.

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

someone will pick an orange out of a refrigerator and not like it

His supporters love Trump because 'he's the only politician who tells them the truth'.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

Fun fact: despite sharing a skin color with the well-known citrus fruit, Donald Trump has never actually come into physical contact with an orange!

What Would Spoonman Do? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

or any fruits except Elton John

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

Well, maybe if the orange was hollowed out and inside there was a thumb drive full of evidence of criminal activity by the president, and the person who grabbed it was all "WHAT THE FUCK?! Why is there nothing decent in the white house ...to eat?" And they kick off impeachment proceedings out of pure hanger. I get it.

Evan, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

Was it really a smart move for the GOP to release their impeachment memo first? Sometimes being first helps control a narrative with the general public, who tend to focus more on the initial statement and look at rebuttals with sour grapes.

Idk that it makes as much sense here - it's manna for Republicans, but six of the last seven polls released that included Independents and asked participants were asked if they supported impeaching trump had a plurality of Independent voters supporting it. By a small margin, nonetheless, but those are the people who require convincing and so far they've done poorly. Not sure that a preemptive "nothing to see here" will be as effective as their stupid "release the memo" campaign was.

Giving the Dems the last word might backfire (hopefully).

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

They don't have a real defense, so it probably doesn't matter

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

yeah the GOP has no play here besides endless conspiracy theorizing and straight up saying "he did it, so what, get over it"

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

Wow. These are Rudy Giuliani’s phone calls the day Marie Yovanovitch was removed from her post.

That the Intel Committee got access to phone logs of the president’s personal defense attorney is just stunning. #housereport pic.twitter.com/lWF9nEb7OX

— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) December 3, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

imagine being "-1"

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link

That DJTJ or Eric, right?

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

mmm, detention savings opportunities

McKinsey and Co., the international consultants, were deeply involved in helping the Trump administration figure out how to crack down on illegal immigration, new documents show. Copublishing with @propbulica https://t.co/atwFN6dJ7k

— Kim Murphy (@kimmurphy) December 3, 2019

mookieproof, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link

I often look for detention savings opportunities at Target!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link

house intel committee report is out

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link

.@JustinTrudeau, @EmmanuelMacron, @BorisJohnson and other VIPs shared a few words at a Buckingham Palace reception Tuesday. No one mentions @realDonaldTrump by name, but they seem to be discussing his lengthy impromptu press conferences from earlier in the day. (Video: Host Pool) pic.twitter.com/dVgj48rpOP

— Power & Politics (@PnPCBC) December 3, 2019

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 05:08 (four years ago) link

someone's head is going to explode when he sees this

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 05:08 (four years ago) link

hey has he golfed yet?

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 05:27 (four years ago) link

^ inquiring minds want to know!

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 06:05 (four years ago) link

Newsweek article says he golfed on Thanksgiving

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 07:01 (four years ago) link

NEW: Bolton, Pompeo and Defense Secy Esper met w Trump in the Oval Office in August to try to convince him it was in US interests to release military aid to Ukraine. Trump refused. https://t.co/IZG2rTjrQY via @NYTimes

— Trip Gabriel (@tripgabriel) December 29, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 December 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link

IT. WAS. A. PERFECT. CALL.

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Monday, 30 December 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

there is no price comrade combover is unwilling to pay in order to fight corruption

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 30 December 2019 22:09 (four years ago) link

Our prayers are with the families of the victims and the congregation of yesterday’s church attack. It was over in 6 seconds thanks to the brave parishioners who acted to protect 242 fellow worshippers. Lives were saved by these heroes, and Texas laws allowing them to carry arms!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 31, 2019

Thought we weren’t supposed to politicize these things

frogbs, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 02:55 (four years ago) link

how abysmal and horrifying that there is a growing group of americans that consider taking a gun into a church their civic duty

how even more abysmal and horrifying that the president of the country thinks this is a positive thing. this fucker hasn't been in a church outside of campaigning since well before he got involved in public office.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 05:06 (four years ago) link

Twitter: Republican VP, GOP VP!
Centrists: That's not what Joe really said!
Joe Biden: pic.twitter.com/behX3GZnVF

— #BeTheMedia 🔥 (@Bernie_Or_Vest) December 31, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 06:36 (four years ago) link

Um

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

yeah, idk. if the democrats would like to run joe biden as their candidate good luck to them.

treeship., Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

but did you see how close to obama he stood for those 8 years? look at his record of standing near a president.

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link

The DNC will have so much egg on their face when they nominate Biden. Thank goodness they'll be the only ones impacted!

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

it's very strange that he's the resilient centrist, seemingly, and not someone like harris, beto, booker or mayor pleat

treeship., Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

why?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

there's just something about that old, white, straight, party-line man that makes him appealing to the dems. it's a mystery!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

How odd that an old white male former Vice President with a long Senate career is more favored by people voting for stability and predictability in the presidency over a first-time non-white female senator, a 1-term Representative, and the mayor of a wholly irrelevant city.

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link

jesus, Treeship

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

Jesus is #yanggang

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

Jesus/Treeship the unity ticket

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

the mayor of a wholly irrelevant city.

they should put this on the screen whenever he's on tv

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

The United States Postal Service shipped more than 13 billion pieces of mail and packages this holiday season. But now that gift-giving has abated, the agency, which falls under President Trump’s jurisdiction, is facing another deadline: find a new Postmaster General by January 2020.

The new leadership will be handpicked and approved by the Postal Service’s Board of Governors: a group of five men (mostly with investment banking and private banking experience), three of whom were appointed by Trump, along with the current Postmaster General and her deputy.

Once the new leadership is in place, the board will also be tasked by the Trump administration with creating a package of large, structural changes intended to help the ailing Postal Service. Those changes will likely include privatizing and selling pieces of the public service off, according to the American Postal Workers Union (APWU), which represents more than 200,000 current and retired postal employees.

In 2018, Trump issued an executive order to create a postal task force, led by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin. The group was charged with figuring out how to make the postal service a more profitable entity. They recommended that the agency roll back collective bargaining rights for postal workers and sell off pieces of the service to private industry.

https://fortune.com/2019/12/27/usps-privatization-postal-service-going-private/

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

i.e. mail whatever you need to mail now because we're about to fuck ourselves in our own ears and lay off millions of government workers without any alternately applicable skillsets

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

idk, mailbombs might prove useful

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

In 2018, Trump issued an executive order to create a postal task force, led by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin. The group was charged with figuring out how to make the postal service a more profitable entity.

Fun fact: It was called "Operation Going Postal."

Yeets don't fail me now (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

charge more for postage and only pickup/deliver in rural areas once a week. boom, sorted.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

but how would we get Irene Independent, Centrist Carl, and Ursula Undecided to vote for the the urban elitist democratic tax-and-spend freeloaded party by reducing the efficiency of the USPS, which does absolutely nothing for rural americans?

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link

By promising them that it will make the USPS "more efficient" and will "save money", while not mentioning that it will reduce service, increase costs, and funnel money away from the working class and toward the rich.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link

Aw man, I have a feeling Bobby Both Sides isn’t going to like that!!

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 22:25 (four years ago) link

- cut out Saturday delivery
- cut out house to house delivery in surburban areas and replace with street corner “super boxes”
- concentrate on parcel delivery, compete aggressively with Fedex, UPS, etc.

Ρεμπετολογια, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 23:09 (four years ago) link

or starve the beast, strip it for parts, sell to amazon for pennies where amazon cuts the workforce, etc.

peloton for the painfully alone (m bison), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link

dude, trump is gonna figure out how to financialize/griftify the post office with banking, and simultaneously make it a tool for fleecing the poors and workings. read me now believe me later.

and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link

That’s essentially the Canadian approach. Having lived here awhile the idea of getting mail on Saturday seems weird to me now. Of course cutting Sat likely means cutting jobs

rob, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link

Uh xpost

rob, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link

Telling the USPS to privatize itself and actually completing the follow-through are two very different things

As I’ve said before, these idiots have none of the skills

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link

is treeship with a period at the end of his name a Fake Treeship?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 January 2020 00:16 (four years ago) link

i still believe

💠 (crüt), Wednesday, 1 January 2020 00:19 (four years ago) link

it's very strange that he's the resilient centrist, seemingly

You know that old Woody Allen line about 80% of life being showing up? It applies here.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 January 2020 00:19 (four years ago) link

Giuliani's answer to being asked if he'd testify at the impeachment trial is completely insane pic.twitter.com/8BMjVy4r9A

— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) January 1, 2020


please god

k3vin k., Wednesday, 1 January 2020 01:51 (four years ago) link

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 January 2020 01:59 (four years ago) link

lol glass of scotch in his hand, hny rudy

Clay, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 02:34 (four years ago) link

January thread?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 2 January 2020 00:14 (four years ago) link

Would have suggested "Jesus, Treeship" for title but there's still time.

Miami weisse (WmC), Thursday, 2 January 2020 02:19 (four years ago) link


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