Marvel Comics blabbery

Anyone been following along with Dawn of X? They're apparently collecting every series into specific 'Dawn of X' trade paperbacks, really as if it's all one big story. Which at this point is up at three comics a week. It's crazy. But on a plot-level, not at all as crazy as HoXPoX

I’m psyched that a new Spider-Woman series is coming, tho I hate this cover art. Anyone have experience w/the actual creative team (Karla Pacheco & Pere Perez)? I tried looking up Perez’s artwork, and found what appears to be a softcore scene of Rogue & Gambit swimming...

I've been on the Dawn of X-train. It feels inevitably slow compared to House/Powers of X, but then I try to remember that none of these series is even past the second issue yet.

Btw, I love that artist on Handbook (Javier Rodriguez), I first caught his work on Saladin Ahmed's Exiles series.

Also ugh back to the old Spider-Woman costume

No kidding (on the costume)! Was this due to “popular demand,” or something?

Protip: they seem to be collecting all of the newer Handbook/Saga-esque material (eg History of the Marvel U, Piskor's Grand Design) in an oversized Treasury Edition format. I've been buying the individual issues but I think this might call for a rare double dip.

I had to stop and question for a sec if I'd been mistaken in thinking of that as an ILX-exclusive reference but a quick google search confirmed that, yes, he really was just writing it for the 77 knuckleheads on this board.

― War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), 24. marraskuuta 2019 15:51

Haha, I just read the issue in question and did exactly the same, 'cos I couldn't remember anymore whether "oh, xxxxpaws" originated here or somewhere else. Gotta love Mr. Ewing!

I'm also sure the gag he did in the U.S. Avengers tie-in of Secret Empire, where he referenced the opening narration of Asterix (HYDRA has conquered all of France! "Well... Not quite all. One small group remains...") flew over the heads of most American readers.

Anyone been following along with Dawn of X? They're apparently collecting every series into specific 'Dawn of X' trade paperbacks, really as if it's all one big story. Which at this point is up at three comics a week. It's crazy. But on a plot-level, not at all as crazy as HoXPoX

― Frederik B, Saturday, November 30, 2019 2:01 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm an on-again/off-again comics guy. For the most part, I just wait until things I want to read are out in trades, but a couple months ago I scooped up all the House of X/Powers of X issues, along with the first Marauders issue which had come out that week. Then I went back this weekend hoping there'd be another issue or two and somehow there are 5 at this point! If feel like it's going to be a bit of an onslaught on my wallet if I want to check out all the Dawn of X stuff. Is it common for comics to have such an aggressive release schedule?

I don't think so, they are really trying to make a giant story out of this. There was one week with five new issues! If it helps, you can safely drop Fallen Angels, it's crap. Excalibur doesn't really have anything to do with the main plot either, I don't think. But Marauders is pretty central, and pretty good, X-Force had the most important plot point at all so far, and New Mutants is pretty good and sometimes written by Hickman as well. So that's still four series, and probably two a week... Let's see how long they can keep it up, it already seems as if it's too much to handle, with issues being delayed and moved around.

Oh hey, they're also dropping some Hickman-penned one-shots into the mix in the coming months!

yeah, they're really pushing the limits of how much I'm willing to buy. 6 titles was already a big stretch, and they're introducing Wolverine and Cable solo titles. I'm probably not gonna get those.
Fallen Angels is not very good, but at least it ends after six issues. But it gets replaced with a Hellions title immediately after.
Frankly none of these are that great yet, but we're also only about 3-4 issues into any given book. But so far they're squandering the promise of Hox/Pox. Only the main X-Men book and Marauders are reliably good imo, but I'll keep hanging on at least through issue 6 for all of these.

I actually like the concept of Excalibur as a separate, magic-focused title, but it's just OK so far. A lot of intriguing setup but not much plot so far.
X-Force has an ongoing plot but so far is a shock title, with grisly violence every issue.
New Mutants is up and down. Got sick of the space stuff already, kinda the writing went back to Earth for now.

The five issues in one week hit me hard, but then i realized they probably only did it because it was the week before Christmas. Still, kinda sucks that these are going biweekly!

peace, man - they're gonna release Dawn of X in six trades/hardcovers with all the series in sequence pretty quickly (vol 1 has all the #1s, vol 2 has all the #2s, etc.), at least they're already solicity for six volumes.

Hellions is written by Zeb Wells, so don't get your hopes up for improvement.

what did Wells do? i know he's involved with Robot Chicken but I don't really remember any of his Marvel work

It'll all be on Marvel Unlimited in six months

I've been reading the Hickman-penned ones, though

If I remember correct, Zeb Wells was in the rotation on Spider-man when they were trying the kinda weekly rotating artist/writer teams.

Check this thing out...

https://www.amazon.com/X-Men-Children-Atom-Box-Set/dp/1302924028/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=x-men+box+set&qid=1578522209&sr=8-2

It is pretty much a complete X-men up to like '81.

Zeb Wells wrote an okay issue of Tangled Web that Fegredo drew and some terrible backup story that wasn't cartooned by a genius

hey guys! I bought a Marvel comic for the first time in... 25 years? It was the first Immortal Hulk tpb. It was good.

good choice

I've been reading them from the library and a) the paper is fuckin hideous, and b) there's a fill-in in the fifth issue by someone who can cartoon well and I felt a low-level tension headache evaporate a few pages in

idk you have issues with paper and colors that I don't, generally speaking

did you get the one with the first five issues or the omnibus with #1-10?

first five

I have to move the book about nine times a page just to scoot the glare around in order to be able to see the words and drawings in each panel

HULK TOO SHINY

It gets even better as it goes along, too

fill-in in the fifth issue collection

I can tell you it's up to issue #30 right now, and still bangin'. Dammmn good.

Doc Samson still dead?

iirc the current status is anyone who's drank from the well of gamma never really dies

not as long as the green door is open

Yeah, the Immortal Hulk is awesome and probably the highlight of Ewing's Marvel career. I just finished the latest TPB, and the revelation of the Hulk's ultimate future was just an incredible issue, pure science fiction goodness. The change of artist was a good choice for that issue, as great as Joe Bennett is at drawing grotesque gamma monsters, I don't think he could've pulled off what German García did there.

TIH also benefits from Hulk and his supporting cast being fairly independent from the big superhero teams, so the title hasn't become saddled with having to take part in Marvel's various crossovers, which has happened with pretty much all of Ewing's previous ongoing Marvel comics.

Also, Ewing's nod to a certain Great Lakes Avengers character was cool, and appropriate for the story. I love how has this deep knowledge of Marvel lore and isn't afraid to reference fairly obscure characters and stories from years ago, but he always does it in a way that doesn't baffle readers who might not be familiar with the stories he's referencing. So it's fun for old-time Marvel readers but not uninviting to newbies; that's the way you should write in a decades-old shared continuity.

"I love how he has"

Guys, I'm like two years late in noticing but Al totally made a Wrinklepaws reference in an issue of USAvengers. And I'm sure 99.9999999% of the readership was totally baffled.

― War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Sunday, November 24, 2019 4:41 AM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

lmao I’d completely forgotten that

― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, November 24, 2019 11:19 AM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Just saw this from months ago. What was the context for the reference?

Sunspot making fun of a government stooge.

xpost There really wasn't any context. Roberto da Costa says it offhandedly to some brusque authoritarian who's all like '...wtf-paws?' in response, thus reflecting the experience of so many who have spent too much time on ILX.

Rolling Comic Book thread 2017

Thanks!

It's like when Matt Fraction was dropping Best Show references into his comics yet even more insular and incomprehensible to all but the like +/- 50 people on planet earth who both regularly read Marvel comics and frequent ILX.

i've been on this board a long time but...it just doesn't seem like a good idea

this new costume sucks, wtf

https://static0.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Spider-Woman-NewCostume.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=450&h=523&dpr=1.5

Why would she adopt Spider-Man’s webbing

Which Spider-Woman is that? The Secret Wars one (forget her name) always had a suit that was derivative of Spidey's.

Yes — this is Jessica Drew, who has no relation whatsoever to Spidey.

(...And who already got an awesome new costume just a few years back. Plus, her “classic” costume is one of Marvel’s best. She didn’t need a crappy third costume.)

Forget the costume, whoever's writing this thing better be prepared to outdo that Hopeless run or why even bother.

Yeah. It’s Karla Pacheco

Jessica Drew is my favorite Marvel hero about whom I know practically nothing

Like, I never followed her stories or anything but I LOVE her entire look and whenever she shows up as a secondary character, I cheer

Yeah, I can't fully explain my love for the character (tho I have gone back and read most of her solo stuff)... there's just something really compelling about her.

she's cool, also a brainwashed spy of some sort