The Legend of Korra (the sequel series to the Avatar: The Last Airbender)

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of course, knowing thyself = being able to astrally project thyself as a giant of light so you can have a sick mecha battle with the dark avatar

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 09:38 (four years ago) link

the plot relies too much on deus ex machina and out-of-blue revelations, the biggest one being the way Korra defeats Unalaq... Since she doesn't have her avatar powers at the time, are we to assume any human can just do that?

the show doesn’t suggest once that she lost her powers by being separated from raava, just that her connection to the avatar line is severed.

It's been a few years since I watched it, but IIRC it's explicitly mentioned that Korra can't use her Avatar powers at this point, and becoming a blue giant is totally unrelated with her Avatarhood, so apparently anyone can become an enegy giant they really want to? She does eventually regain the Avatar powers (though the connection with past Avatars is lost, as you say), but only after the Unalaq fight.

of course, knowing thyself = being able to astrally project thyself as a giant of light so you can have a sick mecha battle with the dark avatar

Not to spoil too much, but there's a point in season 4 where this giant of light ability would be extremely useful, yet Korra seems to have completely forgot she was once able to do it.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 09:49 (four years ago) link

i hate to insist on this but: she doesn’t lose and then regain her powers in season two

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link

but i mean maybe i watched it too stoned and missed the explicit mention of it

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 09:53 (four years ago) link

i mean ang only ever becomes a big blue giant once himself

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 09:54 (four years ago) link

but i mean maybe i watched it too stoned and missed the explicit mention of it

When Unalaq/Vaatu seemingly kills Raava in the penultimate episode, she can't use her Avatar powers after that. Then in the final fight between the two giants, Jinora shows Korra that Raava is still alive inside Unalaq/Vaatu, so she rips Raava out of him and reconnects with it, and regains the Avatar powers (though her connection to past Avatars is still lost).

Tuomas, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 10:32 (four years ago) link

yes i can see how you would get that through implication but i don’t think it’s explicitly stated

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

anyway, it’s fine lol, i’d rather stop talking about it

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link

Can we talk about how the animals have less charisma in Korra than AtLA? I love red pandas! And big dogs! But they weren’t Momo and Appa.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link

y’all are way harsher on this show than i’m capable of being. appa was a miraculous character, i’m fine with them not doing it again

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

I critique because I love.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

i also started korra right after finishing avatar and didn’t notice a dip in the humor at all. there were maybe two fart jokes

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

The kid fart jokes are obnoxious (obv), and low effort, to the point where I wonder if they were reacting against studio notes that insisted on having young comic characters.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

The youngest boy is very ‘Scrappy Doo’ to me.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:19 (four years ago) link

i lol’d so hard at how he said he’d train the new airbenders though

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link

He’s actually more bearable and funnier in the last two seasons.

Antonym Scalia (Leee), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

just finished season three, it ruled

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 November 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

some pretty gnarly deaths in this show even though they're more implied than shown (suffocation, head explosion)

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 November 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

The suffocation death shocked me. Was it the first on-screen death in the series?

Vinnie, Friday, 29 November 2019 02:31 (four years ago) link

oh god i loved this whole show so much, season 4 was especially bangin

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 December 2019 04:56 (four years ago) link

yeah this is on a very short list of shows that continually improve season over season

rob, Sunday, 1 December 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

i still love season 2 A LOT, even more than the show itself does (i lol'd when varrick called unalaq boring in the recap episode still)

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 December 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link

also this is very "fandom" of me but korra/asami!!!!! can't believe this show got to me on that level

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 December 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link

I felt like that pairing came out of nowhere, but my friend pointed out they had been slowly building up to it over the series. I would have loved to see them explore it in more depth in another season but of course, it's Nickelodeon, so that moment at the end was the most they were allowed to do anyway

Vinnie, Sunday, 1 December 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link

Their relationship is explored more in the sequel comics, which obviously are less prone to censorship than a Nickelodeon show.

I've watched LoK twice, and IMO the Korra/Asami ending still comes mostly as a surprise. There are some hints towards it, especially at the end of season 3 and beginning of season 4 (I don't think the writers had even decided Korra and Asami might be bi until season 3), but since LoK had such short seasons, they don't really have much time to develop the relationship, or even Asami as a character. I think the most important thing about the ending is its after-effect on other kid-oriented animated series in the US. It was a big moment that was lauded widely, and partially because of that we've seen more explixit depictions of same-gender romance in shows like Steven Universe, She-Ra, and The Dragon Prince.

Tuomas, Monday, 9 December 2019 10:15 (four years ago) link

Wow I don't think I knew there were comics. Time to go find those! Asami was definitely underdeveloped past the first season. underused, really

Vinnie, Monday, 9 December 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

If the Korra comics are anything like the ATLA comics, then they're not very good.

Scorsese runs afoul of the Irishman (Leee), Monday, 9 December 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link

the korra/asami ending did not come as a surprise to me bc it's telegraphed in episode one of season four. the idea that korra can tell asami things that she can't share with mako or bolin was, though abrupt, very credible to me

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 9 December 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link

sorry that actually might be episode two of season four

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 9 December 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link

Yeah, it's established that they've become very close, but there's no obvious hints that their feelings are romantic until the series finale. And even then, since they didn't end the episode with a kiss that was a clearly about to happen (because the showrunners knew Nickelodeon wouldn't allow that), I remember some parts of the fandom weren't quite sure what the ending was supposed to imply, and some of the more heteronormative fans claimed Korra and Asami were just friends, because there had been no kiss or other overtly romantic gestures. The day after the finale came out, Bryan Konietzko actually had to confirm to the fandom on Twitter that, yes, Korra and Asami are a couple now.

This is the reason why I said the importance of the finale is more how it affected other kids' cartoons. Korra showed the way, but still suffered from (assumed) censorship, whereas today shows likee She-Ra and The Dragon Prince have gay and lesbian couples openly kissing each other.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 07:24 (four years ago) link


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