Nine Inch Nails releases

Comparing NiN to Ministry - in terms of who was more abrasive - is moot; or at least, I don't think that was what Josh' revive was about. NiN found their way into the mainstream (a miracle in itself) - surfing on the Grunge and post-industrial waves; became MTV stars, sold millions of records and got played on the radio world wide with a sound so abrasive and aggressive there was hardly a precedent.

I still think TDS is very powerful; it has lost some of it's impact, of course, but not nearly as much as a twenty years older me would expect it to have lost. And this is foolishly preaching from my generation to ThE kIdS of today, but I'd wager this record would, and does, still make an impact on young ears today.

Yeah, I didn't want to get into a comparison between the bands. I just meant that imo even if (like me) you were familiar with Ministry and Wax Trax and Pretty Hate Machine and lots of stuff short of maybe Einstürzende Neubauten, TDS is one super-abrasive, confrontational album, seemingly (at least on paper) one of the least commercial albums made. Even "Closer" is, for obvious reasons, super not commercial! The fact that the album (and songs) were hits and made superstars of NIN is really something. Usually the big major label commercial breakthrough goes the other direction.

Bands I'd say were influenced by NIN included Filter, Stabbing Westward, Marilyn Manson (obv) ... but more overtly I think a lot of bands were clearly *influenced* by NIN even if they didn't sound like them, and that included such veterans and Reznor influences themselves as Bowie and Depeche Mode.

His recent instrumental release of The Fragile is pretty incredible. Also the remastered versions of TDS and The Fragile are pretty top notch, as is the aforementioned Deviations 1.

Very sad at the loss of production depth to NIN tracks after The Fragile. Those two 90's albums had just next level layering and atmosphere he'd never quite touch again. Must've been the drugs?

drugs and/,budget.

I had no idea there was an instrumental version of the fragile available!

Bands I'd say were influenced by NIN included Filter, Stabbing Westward, Marilyn Manson (obv) ... but more overtly I think a lot of bands were clearly *influenced* by NIN even if they didn't sound like them, and that included such veterans and Reznor influences themselves as Bowie and Depeche Mode.

Agree with this 100%, and I feel like a lot of artists (especially Bowie) were standing there thinking, "Holy shit, you can get away with sounding like *that* and still have hit songs?"

Just looked to confirm, but after The Fragile Trent Reznor starts to producing everything himself. Well, him, with Atticus Ross and Alan Mulder. It becomes much more in house.

xpost and of course the 1995 tour etc. And it's pretty clear that "Rush" by Depeche on SOFAD was their response song as such to NIN.

Thanks to this revive I listened to NIN for the first time in 20+ years. God I love Broken.

I've been getting into My Chemical Romance for the past month or so and have had NIN on the brain because Planetary (Go!) sounds like a sped-up version of the chord progression from Something I Can Never Have.

I had a housemate that had some connections to MTV in London at the time and I recall her coming home one day with some promo VHS with the uncut (lol) version of the Happiness in Slavery video, it was such a big deal but ugh...

i listened to with teeth today. wildly underrated imo

the dfa flirtations are limited to when “all the love in the world” transforms into a stomping house track (which is maybe the most amazing thing that happens in any nin song) and “only”’s groove, which is a cowbell away from the juan maclean. the rest of the record feels like the most band-focused nin record (outside of the slip which i haven’t heard since it came out so i might be remembering it wrong). grohl’s drumming sounds amazing throughout

Does he play on the whole thing?

Regardless, I don't remember when, but I recall Reznor going to Albini just to track big drums. That's ultimately probably the best use of Albini's time.

Does he play on the whole thing?

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, November 26, 2019 6:03 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

little less than half of it

“all the love in the world” transforms into a stomping house track (which is maybe the most amazing thing that happens in any nin song)

YES. I never really got into the rest of WT though.

i listened to with teeth today. wildly underrated imo

in-fucking-deed. But all their noughties and post output has been adding up to a very compelling body of work.

Bands I'd say were influenced by NIN included Filter, Stabbing Westward, Marilyn Manson (obv) ... but more overtly I think a lot of bands were clearly *influenced* by NIN even if they didn't sound like them, and that included such veterans and Reznor influences themselves as Bowie and Depeche Mode

This is true, and I'd also add the Dos Dedos PWEI to that list. I've always loved how all these bands/artists had already influenced Reznor in the first place. So there was a degree of feedback between them.

One of my favorite things about Reznor is how he literally listed his influences in the "Pretty Hate Machine" sleeve.

To be honest, I don't think Reznor has ever really released a dud. If anything, his body of work has been very consistent, very good overall but perhaps a bit too samey.

Ghosts was pretty boring.

I've said this before but I strongly prefer 21st century NIN over 20th century NIN. I don't love all of it (I'm lukewarm on With Teeth and actively dislike Year Zero) but The Slip and Hesitation Marks are great albums, and the three recent EPs are all great and show him really stretching in (somewhat) surprising ways. He's still a terrible try-hard as a lyricist - you can predict his rhymes with 95% accuracy - but the music itself keeps getting better IMO.

I never heard the side project with his wife.

it's really good, you should! i like it more than the slip or with teeth, certainly.

Yeah, those records are pretty good. A little weirder/more abstract than NIN, less focus on big singalong choruses and more strange distorted noises.

bad witch is such an awesome little record

Yeah, it's not a rehash of anything he's ever done, either. I hope he continues in that direction.

i listened to not the actual events, add violence, and bad witch in order tonight, and wow, that might be reznor’s best work

jesus christ hesitation marks is really fuckin good

im working on a very funky remix of 'all the love in the world' rn

hell yeah

i liked hesitation marks at the time but i don't think i realized the second half of it is all back-to-back amazing songs? "various methods of escape" and "i would for you" especially

i've even seen "find a way" *twice* in concert and i'm kicking my own ass for not realizing how BEAUTIFUL it is

Satellite is my jam on that one

Yeah Satellite is the highlight.

Ghosts was pretty boring.

― chap, Wednesday, November 27, 2019 6:33 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

i disagree! it's not what i wanted from a nin instrumental record (that's still still) but if you treat it as a series of briefly gorgeous sketches spliced with even briefer instances of more industrial/perverse stuff and also listen to it while partially-distracted at work it really comes into its own imo

challopsy nin ranking ahoy including remix albums, i like all of them though, even things falling apart:

fixed
not the actual events / add violence / bad witch
pretty hate machine
hesitation marks
further down the spiral
the fragile / still
with teeth
the downward spiral
closer to god
ghosts i-iv / the slip
year zero
things falling apart

lmao i forgot broken. put it above year zero, it's a great record but i prefer listening to fixed by a lot (and generally prefer listening to a mentally healthier trent reznor than the guy that appears on broken)

what of Y34RZ3R0R3M1X3D?!

oh whoops, some of the versions on that i like better than their year zero counterparts (ladytron) but it would also be hanging out at the bottom of the list

The Fennesz remix of In This Twilight is all time and I wish they'd collaborate on an album.

Should've ranked releases using their Halo numbers to make sure nothing's missed. I like the Soft Cell cover on Halo 9.

The “Get Down, Make Love” cover on the Sin single and attached to the re-release of Pretty Hate Machine fucking rips.

I like the Soft Cell cover on Halo 9.

― Vernon Locke, Wednesday, December 4, 2019 4:35 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

on the strength of "memorabilia" and "metal" trent should've put out a covers record already

You could almost make your own, adding Get Down Make Love, Physical, Lost Souls, Crystal Japan, the stuff he did with Peter Murphy and TV on the Radio...

https://soundcloud.com/808mixtapes/all-the-love-in-the-world-daveys-remix/s-NQTty
disco trent

It's kinda annoying that there is no way to get hold of the Fragile Deviations 1 digitally without buying a $80 vinyl version.

on the other hand, trent reznor is very aware of torrents, etc. and priced the only release at $80

what would trent do?

you have my blessing

yo davey i love that remix, could i get a mp3 of it