US Politics, November 2019: These people are truly sick.

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it doesn't demonstrate respect for the military. he subverted the chain of command! it's more like, when trump said that we have "killers" that one time. he is pro-killing.

treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

the seals who risked their careers (and lives, as he reportedly threatened to kill them) by turning him in will not be happy

mookieproof, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

yeah. honestly, i think i might vomit if i think about this any more. there is something extremely evil about this man being paraded around fox news as a respectable veteran.

treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

tbf, drone strikes also kill civilians. but openly condoning murder for sport -- where else can you go after that? what's worse?

If public executions of undocumented immigrants are what it takes to drive up Republican voter turnout come September/October 2020, then Fox News will just have to clear a Sunday evening timeslot.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 25 November 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link

not a proponent of vigilante justice but I sure wouldn’t lose any sleep if Gallagher were to get a taste of his own medicine

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 25 November 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

i'd be interested to see what would happen if trump pardoned someone like the charlottesville killer or like dylan roof or someone like that.

would they be invited onto fox news to inveigh against the system while the pretty hosts smile and nod along?

treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

He already pardoned Sheriff Joe, and he's about as shitty a person as you can find short of an outright murderer.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 November 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

the non-delegation doctrine

and just where do these "strict constructionists" find this written in the US constitution?

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 25 November 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

I'm still not discounting the possibility of a Shkreli cabinet appointment before Prez Doughblob gets the boot.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 November 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

and just where do these "strict constructionists" find this written in the US constitution?

An emanation from the 10th Amendment reservation of powers maybe

they see me lollin' (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 November 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

the president is pro-murder

very trad

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 November 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

The Congress must delegate some level of decision making power to the Executive, otherwise legislation would rapidly reach a reduction ad absurdum.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 25 November 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

i thought that was the point of an executive branch

treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

execute the law

treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

Well Republicans like executing, that's for sure

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 November 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

the non-delegation doctrine

and just where do these "strict constructionists" find this written in the US constitution?

― A is for (Aimless), Monday, November 25, 2019 6:12 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

next to the section about judicial review =D

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 25 November 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

^_^

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 25 November 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

Just after the parts about abortion and teh gayz

they see me lollin' (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

the idea of a regulatory state has been one of the lodestars of conservative ire since FDR. That's what SkyNet designed Roberts, Thomas, and Alito to dismantle.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link

When they get rid of the SEC all hell will break loose.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

feel like if the dems arent gonna court pack, their only real option is to make laws/executive orders and ignore the courts

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

Couldn't this gaggle of fuckos go start their own proto-nation on a decommissioned oil drilling platform or something? Like if you're so goddamn deadset against things working the way they're supposed to, maybe the problem is you and you should fuck off. It's a good rule of thumb for life, I find.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

This nation is called The South iirc

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link

this is the year i finally learn that winning elections is about quickly getting what you want before the crowd turns on you. dems think it's about winning offices and holding them for years to slowly get things you want. then they lose and blame their modest policy demands, so they come back with a weaker hand the next time around. gop meanwhile knows they're unpopular and dont give a shit.

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

that's what really bummed me out about Obama's presidency - the most fertile time for accomplishing big things legislatively is within the first two years of a first term, and he was handicapped by/had to expend a significant amount of his political capital on the economic crash

Οὖτις, Monday, 25 November 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link

The situation in the federal courts is getting dire and soon there will be no good solutions available at all. Court packing would be legal, but politically too hot to handle right now. Impeachments of judges would be another legal avenue, but impeachments could only be pursued on the grounds of corruption or incompetence, not a judge's reactionary politics. Ignoring the courts would be a total political disaster.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link

gop courts with political disaster as a matter of course. like i get that ppl would be mad and it would require the dems to cede the "moral high ground" but also fuck it, do power grabs constantly and then you will have power to do the things???

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link

like what good is a constitutional crisis if it's only one side testing its limits in pursuit of its goals???

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

Naked power grabs don't bother the reactionary base of the GOP because they are convinced in the necessity for preemptive strikes against the evil that is progressivism, so all the Republicans need to do is find a fig leaf, so that their noise machine can confuse things just long enough for most of the other voters to tire of it and soon forget it ever happened.

Naked power grabs by the democrats will instantly stimulate the right wing noise machine into paroxysms of outrage, prompting liberals to have a crisis of conscience at the violation of their high ideals, which will stimulate revulsion against the power grabbers and be used as a battle cry by the GOP for decades, like "borking" or "Benghazi".

Sometimes you can't win for losing.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link

otm

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

but i wanna do criiiiiiiiiiimes

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

Naked power grabs by the democrats will instantly stimulate the right wing noise machine into paroxysms of outrage, prompting liberals to have a crisis of conscience at the violation of their high ideals, which will stimulate revulsion against the power grabbers and be used as a battle cry by the GOP for decades, like "borking" or "Benghazi".

so why not go ahead and do the thing they're gonna accuse you of doing anyway

frogbs, Monday, 25 November 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link

one reason is that power grabs work a lot better when you have an entire media complex that is set up to lie to constituents and distort any opposing information. democrats have nothing that compares to fox news, let alone conservative talk radio/christian radio (which is essentially the same now)

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

and one reason they don't have their own fox news is because if democrats develop a comparable version of fox/rush limbaugh/focus on the family i will puke so hard over everything

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

otm

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link

one reason is that power grabs work a lot better when you have an entire media complex that is set up to lie to constituents and distort any opposing information. democrats have nothing that compares to fox news, let alone conservative talk radio/christian radio (which is essentially the same now)

to which conservatives, without lying, will say, "You guys have the NYT, WaPost, social media, college professors, and the regulatory agencies." This has been their argument since Goldwater.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link

'you guys have dennis perrin'

mookieproof, Monday, 25 November 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

good ol DP

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

New Deal and Great Society both required democrats to assertively wield political power. Flexing power isn't a function of fundamental differences between D and R voters, and it doesn't require a propaganda machine, it just requires majorities and willpower

Dan I., Monday, 25 November 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

also and lemme just make sure we're on the same page but also crimes

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link

crimes goes without saying, naturally

Dan I., Monday, 25 November 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link

aw, thanks m@tt

*rereads thread* wait, hold up

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link

'you guys have dennis perrin'

uh he hates liberals (you know, like me)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 November 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link

Dem's hem and haw, wondering what the fictional independent strawman in some bumfuck suburb will think ("won't somebody think of the deficit"), while Rep's are "Let's just do it and be heroes."

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Monday, 25 November 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

The republican party is controlled by radicals and ideologues and the democratic party is not

treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link

This has been true for some timd

treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link

Some people who dont follow politics too closely fail to understand this. “Conservative” doesn’t capture the idea that we should take an axe to the entire federal government, knowing this will have massively destructive ripple effects for ordinary citizens.

treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link

"arsonists" might be a better term

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 November 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link

the DC Circuit Court case decision from earlier this year came in, McGahn must comply with House Judiciary Committee subpoena

Dan S, Monday, 25 November 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link

“The case involves a subpoena from the House Judiciary Committee to former White House counsel Don McGahn. It predates House Democrats’ formal announcement of an impeachment inquiry into Trump, but represents the first test in court since Trump took office of an argument the administration is pushing to stymie the impeachment inquiry: that current and former senior White House officials have “absolute immunity” from congressional subpoenas.”

Dan S, Monday, 25 November 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link


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