Faith No More: Angel Dust v. The Real Thing

Man, Evidence is so good. They were really good at that 'late night search for a car' laidback funk rnb vibe (Stripsearch too)

"I had no idea Courtney Love was the singer in FNM for a little while" . so was Paula Frazer from Tarnation, for one show. There's a fairly poor sounding recording of it floating around. She told me she thought it was awful but I think it's pretty good, sounds like Siouxsie.

I don't think Sol Invictus is any worse than any of the other post Angel Dust albums. None of them do much for me. Angel Dust was epochal for me but then my tastes went elsewhere.

Vernon was explaining that's why he has fewer contributions.

yeah, exactly. apols for the lack of clarity, must be the heroin.

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— Faith No More (@FaithNoMore) November 23, 2019

They were great on that little tour they did behind the last album.

I missed it because I was out of town so I certainly hope to catch them again. I haven't seen them since the Angel Dust tour and that was a fucking show.

Christ, I've never seen them. Maybe this will be the year!

they were fun. threw Boz Scagg's "Lowdown" into the middle of "Midlife Crisis", did pretty much all of my favorite songs...except "Land of Sunshine", sadly.

Patton ended the show by simulating giving a blow job to the microphone for the last minute then just walked offstage.

The biography Small Victories, released last year, is a decent read for those interested.

Yeah, I'm definitely interested. Thanks for the heads up!

I remember reading somewhere back in the day that there was a rift between Martin and Bottum which ended up hurting them both, with Martin leaving and Bottum getting sidelined. But I can't remember hearing about that again so I'm not sure there was any truth to it.

Weird to see so many FNM fans on here given the relative dearth of Mr Bungle threads on ILM! I recently revisited the s/t and DV and both hold up pretty well (though parts of s/t have definitely aged pretty poorly)

I've never gotten into Mr. Bungle, despite loving Faith No More and Zorn/Naked City. I just don't like Bungle's players that much.

Patton ended the show by simulating giving a blow job to the microphone for the last minute then just walked offstage.

The ultimate Mike Patton story is the one about the Farriss brothers from INXS ringing him to ask if he wanted to be their frontman for their upcoming tour. He replied that he would do it on one condition . . . that he be allowed to re-enact Hutchence's death on stage every night.

As for FNM themselves, listened to them a fair bit back in the day (early 1990s) because I had a friend at the time who was hugely into them, but I'd imagine a lot of it hasn't dated too well.

but I'd imagine a lot of it hasn't dated too well

IDK. Every now and then I go back to the hits and I find it surprising how well they hold up. That combination of erasure + funk metal should be a train wreck but the way they embrace every hook that's available is really overwhelming. Really, they overwhelm you with hooks.

I've never gotten into Mr. Bungle, despite loving Faith No More and Zorn/Naked City. I just don't like Bungle's players that much.

You've listened to California right? Far and away their most cohesive (and least frenetic) album. One of my two fave Patton records, along with Angel Dust.

I saw them live in September of 1992 (with Helmet opening) and they were great - I remember them playing Europe's "The The Final Countdown" as they came on stage and all ran around doing calisthenics and my cousin fulfilled his dream of crowd surfing while they played "RV".

I've listened to KFAD and AOTY again for the first time in ages and they still don't do much for me - not terrible or anything, they just feel lackluster compared to the previous two and are kind of boring. It turns out I really like Jim Martin's big dumb riffs and that feels absent in both of these which feel more generic-metally to me, or sound more like Mr. Bungle in a way that I didn't want from my FNM records.

xpost I haven't listened to California since it came out, and I saw them on that tour. I remember it being kind of lounge music? Sort of more the direction of some of other Mike Patton's other projects. That is to say, I don't remember much of a metal or noise aspect to it.

California is fucking fantastic. it has "Retrovertigo", which is a weird power ballad. "Sweet Charity" does have kind of a seaside feel, but it's a great song.

there are definitely heavy moments on it. it's just less experimental than Disco Volante, but that's a relative statement. it was one of my favorite albums of that year.

To say it has a loungy feel is fair, but the dark weirdness is still there, albeit more subtly than on previous albums. Kind of a Blue Velvet vibe.

I just don't remember it at all, any more than I remember Lovage or Tomahawk (both of whom I saw live as well). However, I did like Fantomas, that scratched the weird metal itch for me.

Be interesting to hear your reaction if you do decide to listen to it again.

Listening to it now, and enjoying!

Didn't the KDAF era have a song called 'I Wanna Fuck Myself'?

this was a GG Allin cover version, and a good one at that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3vx8u7k6Rc

Speaking of Patton and (intentional) assholery, per the INXS anecdote (whether or not it is real). I remember hearing about them having a miserable time opening for GNR in Europe, culminating (supposedly) with Patton taking a shit into Axl's stage shoes or something.

(LOL it was supposedly not his stage shoes but into his orange juice carton! And the FNM camp has denied it, so oh well.)

Though I did find this catalog of him pooping and peeing on or in everything. True or not, esp. from a famed bullshitter, it's certainly ... gross.

http://www.faithnomorefollowers.com/2017/02/diary-of-shit-terrorist.html

I fell into some sort of wikipedia worm hole and didn't know that three members of the band were a third - Preston Lea Spruance III, Roswell Christopher Bottum III, and Charles Henry Mosley III.

I guess that's why they called him Tre

I've never gotten into Mr. Bungle, despite loving Faith No More and Zorn/Naked City. I just don't like Bungle's players that much.

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Ah, see I'm something of a Trevor Dunn superfan, so it's the opposite for me (I really like Spruance too)

I still can't believe Jim Martin was in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey

Station!

The ultimate Mike Patton story is the one about the Farriss brothers from INXS ringing him to ask if he wanted to be their frontman for their upcoming tour. He replied that he would do it on one condition . . . that he be allowed to re-enact Hutchence's death on stage every night.

― does it look like i'm here (jon123)

i feel like patton was just really into autoerotic asphyxiation

he also wrote that song "dead goon" for the first mr. bungle album

the only song from "angel dust" i have still in my library is "malpractice", i don't know if anybody ever talks about it but i listened to the whole album at some point between 2009 and 2016 and that song stood out as the highlight

Speaking of Patton and (intentional) assholery, per the INXS anecdote (whether or not it is real). I remember hearing about them having a miserable time opening for GNR in Europe, culminating (supposedly) with Patton taking a shit into Axl's stage shoes or something.

Patton's big thing back then was what he referred to as "shit terrorism". Find a hairdryer in someone's hotel room, take a dump in it, screw the front back on, then carnage would ensue the next time somebody switched the hairdryer on.

A very odd man.

Yeah, I became much less enamored of him as a personality the more stories like this I heard.

I posted a link to a full catalog of his tall tales. which may in fact be just that, bullshit.

It can't be a coincidence that the bands he is always accused of feuding with, like guns n' roses or the red hot chili peppers, seem like the biggest assholes of all time.

Has to be full of it cos most of those would be arrestable offenses

Good point, rock bands would never do anything illegal on the road.

Difference between "trashing a hotel room" and "giving someone an e coli infection".

Dave Matthews hasn't recovered from dumping shit and piss on innocent bystanders

And then there was the Chicago River Incident

Replacements used to put a dead fish in hotel ice dispensers, iirc. And God knows where they peed.

Speaking words of wisdom....