US Politics, November 2019: These people are truly sick.

"all for show" is too damn dismissive and needed countering

‘Sundy’ is a very Midwest pronunciation but we are ILX and recoil at the thought of ‘sundae’.

xpost Oh, you don't have to tell me that (even though I said it). I know *why* they're doing it, there's just nothing that will change the outcome at this point.

lol today is the day of people reminding me of things I'd successfully blocked from my memory

first Amanda Palmer, now Tuomas sundae

I deal with a lot of our sales force in the Midwest and haven't picked up on that xxp

xpost I, personally, find this all fascinating and compelling. Still, I've watched more or less all the hearings, and if I'm being honest, it's been like watching the same hearing over and over again, bar one or two fleeting moments. (Like being on this thread, har!)

xp - It's definitely not universally Midwestern, but it's sprinkled throughout, ime, typically more rural areas.

I know this is the last scheduled public hearing, but the GOP are right about one thing: they're going to impeach, so this is more or less all for show.

eh, i disagree. i mean, on one level, you're right - the last month or so has all been a show, in a sense. they're going to impeach, and the senate will very likely acquit.

but these hearings are what help to create the supporting evidence for the house report and articles of impeachment. that's why you have the boring democratic legal counsel guy asking questions, to strengthen his report and make it as precise and as strongly supported as possible. that process is still happening, even in this final hearing.

for some reason my mom now says fry-dee but pronounces the other days normally

Is she partying, partying (yeah)?

Fun fun fun.

Fiona Hill is has been pretty fucking great

I like her.

Anyway, speaking of the same hearing over and over, here comes Nunes.

he has nothing of substance at all it's a joke

, here comes Nunes

bet he got tired of high school classmates saying this behind his back

thanks for the chronology dumbass

Nunes doesn't even deserve to be a middle manager in some fledgling company. what an empty vessel

He's like a bovine-bureaucrat hybrid

Fake Nunes.

I haven’t listened to a lot of this, but just got an hour and half during a long car ride. Republicans really don’t have anything of substance to say, do they. Fucking clown show. Did get a good laugh at the GOP yahoo from Texas who bizarrely started going off about Russian propaganda related to, specifically, fracking. Which obviously has nothing to do with anything but himself.

jacob wohl's dad released a charity sex calendar today. peace.

Charity sex? Am I in it?

do any of you have any idea how delightful it is to discuss vaping with the President

Schiff is all like
https://farsightedblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/billy-madison.jpg

the GOP are right about one thing: they're going to impeach, so this is more or less all for show

wait wasn't it the GOP that demanded these hearings??

I'm surprised they're not demanding these hearing be "secret" again. I could sworn one of them tried that the other day.

shiff's speeches are fucking tiresome too TBF

Schiff right now reminding me a lot more of this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

a couple of weeks ago they demanded a House floor vote to 'officially' open an impeachment inquiry, but only because the House was in adjournment and such a vote couldn't be taken at the time they were clamoring for it.

god I wish I could be as clueless and incompetent as a Republican Congressman and still keep my job

sorry for late but

BEARD CRUZ AKA the Soupcatcher

A group of Republican senators and senior White House officials met privately Thursday to map out a strategy for a potential impeachment trial of President Trump, including proceedings in the Senate that could be limited to about two weeks, according to multiple officials familiar with the talks.

huh surprised they aren't settled about fucking up the Dem primaries

Schiff nails it: "The difference between [Watergate] and now is not the difference between Nixon and Trump. It's the difference between that Congress and this one."

Precisely.

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) November 21, 2019

idk how illuminating it is to point out that Democrats controlled the Senate under Nixon

Seven of the 17 Republicans on the Judiciary Committee in 1974 voted for at least one article of impeachment.

(House Judiciary Committee, that is.)

yeah, i was about to say, republicans of that era used to do things like support the founding of the EPA, and there was still appeared to be some sort of dignity and capability of feeling shame back then. that is not the case today of course

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/republican-conspiracy-theory-counterprogramming

And the Republicans’ strategy, as confusing and bizarre as it may seem to those on the outside, is working.

I highly doubt it's working on a single person who isn't already a die-hard Trumper

thank you for posting that. i'm so glad i quit facebook.

xp

"idiotic conspiracy theory works on idiot conspiracy theorists, film at 11"

I highly doubt it's working on a single person who isn't already a die-hard Trumper

you'd think, but put yourself in the shoes of an extremely uninformed person who isn't a die-hard Trumper and sees the headlines described in the article on their feed but doesn't bother clicking them

full disclosure: I've never used facebook so I really can't do that

just seems a stretch to say their "strategy" is "working"

if having their bullshit be reported on is sufficient proof their strategy is working, how exactly would it NOT have worked?

you ever see a movie where the hero is forced to traverse some sort of haunted swampy zone with ghosts and other spirits moaning nonsense and trying to drag the hero down into the foggy deadness? that's what going on facebook is like

the strategy is to overwhelm the uninformed with contrary information, so that have trouble figuring out which news they can and cannot trust. that way, when someone does something very bad (say, the president commits crimes for years on end while republicans do jack shit), a whole bunch of people shrug and say "welp, i heard that the whole thing is a hoax", when really, all they "heard" was some dumbass breitbart article headline that they scrolled past

it works

yup

The GOP hasn't done a competent job yet, but I'm not the voter they need to persuade.

buzzfeed article is illuminating. thank you evan.