My very rural Illinois grandmother used to pronounce it pretty close to Sundee. Like a weird halfway point between DAY and DEE.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
Because impeachment is essentially political in nature and requires public acceptance and understanding in order to work, this kind of "show" is a necessary and integral part of that process. Another word for it is "transparency'.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link
"Mansplaining"!
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link
"all for show" is too damn dismissive and needed countering
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link
‘Sundy’ is a very Midwest pronunciation but we are ILX and recoil at the thought of ‘sundae’.
― santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
xpost Oh, you don't have to tell me that (even though I said it). I know *why* they're doing it, there's just nothing that will change the outcome at this point.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
lol today is the day of people reminding me of things I'd successfully blocked from my memory
first Amanda Palmer, now Tuomas sundae
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
I deal with a lot of our sales force in the Midwest and haven't picked up on that xxp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link
xpost I, personally, find this all fascinating and compelling. Still, I've watched more or less all the hearings, and if I'm being honest, it's been like watching the same hearing over and over again, bar one or two fleeting moments. (Like being on this thread, har!)
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
xp - It's definitely not universally Midwestern, but it's sprinkled throughout, ime, typically more rural areas.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
I know this is the last scheduled public hearing, but the GOP are right about one thing: they're going to impeach, so this is more or less all for show.
eh, i disagree. i mean, on one level, you're right - the last month or so has all been a show, in a sense. they're going to impeach, and the senate will very likely acquit.
but these hearings are what help to create the supporting evidence for the house report and articles of impeachment. that's why you have the boring democratic legal counsel guy asking questions, to strengthen his report and make it as precise and as strongly supported as possible. that process is still happening, even in this final hearing.
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
for some reason my mom now says fry-dee but pronounces the other days normally
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link
Is she partying, partying (yeah)?
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link
Fun fun fun.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link
Fiona Hill is has been pretty fucking great
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
I like her.
Anyway, speaking of the same hearing over and over, here comes Nunes.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link
he has nothing of substance at all it's a joke
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link
, here comes Nunes
bet he got tired of high school classmates saying this behind his back
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link
thanks for the chronology dumbass
― akm, Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link
Nunes doesn't even deserve to be a middle manager in some fledgling company. what an empty vessel
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link
He's like a bovine-bureaucrat hybrid
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link
Fake Nunes.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link
I haven’t listened to a lot of this, but just got an hour and half during a long car ride. Republicans really don’t have anything of substance to say, do they. Fucking clown show. Did get a good laugh at the GOP yahoo from Texas who bizarrely started going off about Russian propaganda related to, specifically, fracking. Which obviously has nothing to do with anything but himself.
― circa1916, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link
jacob wohl's dad released a charity sex calendar today. peace.
― goole, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link
Charity sex? Am I in it?
― nickn, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link
do any of you have any idea how delightful it is to discuss vaping with the President
― Pierre Delecto, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link
Schiff is all likehttps://farsightedblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/billy-madison.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link
the GOP are right about one thing: they're going to impeach, so this is more or less all for show
wait wasn't it the GOP that demanded these hearings??
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link
I'm surprised they're not demanding these hearing be "secret" again. I could sworn one of them tried that the other day.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link
shiff's speeches are fucking tiresome too TBF
― akm, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link
Schiff right now reminding me a lot more of this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
― del griffith, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link
a couple of weeks ago they demanded a House floor vote to 'officially' open an impeachment inquiry, but only because the House was in adjournment and such a vote couldn't be taken at the time they were clamoring for it.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link
god I wish I could be as clueless and incompetent as a Republican Congressman and still keep my job
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link
sorry for late butBEARD CRUZ AKA the Soupcatcher
― insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link
A group of Republican senators and senior White House officials met privately Thursday to map out a strategy for a potential impeachment trial of President Trump, including proceedings in the Senate that could be limited to about two weeks, according to multiple officials familiar with the talks.
huh surprised they aren't settled about fucking up the Dem primaries
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link
Schiff nails it: "The difference between [Watergate] and now is not the difference between Nixon and Trump. It's the difference between that Congress and this one." Precisely.— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) November 21, 2019
― Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 21 November 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link
idk how illuminating it is to point out that Democrats controlled the Senate under Nixon
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 21 November 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link
Seven of the 17 Republicans on the Judiciary Committee in 1974 voted for at least one article of impeachment.
― jaymc, Thursday, 21 November 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link
(House Judiciary Committee, that is.)
yeah, i was about to say, republicans of that era used to do things like support the founding of the EPA, and there was still appeared to be some sort of dignity and capability of feeling shame back then. that is not the case today of course
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 November 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/republican-conspiracy-theory-counterprogramming
― Evan, Thursday, 21 November 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link
And the Republicans’ strategy, as confusing and bizarre as it may seem to those on the outside, is working.
I highly doubt it's working on a single person who isn't already a die-hard Trumper
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 21 November 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link
thank you for posting that. i'm so glad i quit facebook.
xp
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 November 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link
"idiotic conspiracy theory works on idiot conspiracy theorists, film at 11"
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 21 November 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link
you'd think, but put yourself in the shoes of an extremely uninformed person who isn't a die-hard Trumper and sees the headlines described in the article on their feed but doesn't bother clicking them
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 November 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
full disclosure: I've never used facebook so I really can't do that
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 21 November 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link
just seems a stretch to say their "strategy" is "working"
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 21 November 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link
if having their bullshit be reported on is sufficient proof their strategy is working, how exactly would it NOT have worked?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 21 November 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link
you ever see a movie where the hero is forced to traverse some sort of haunted swampy zone with ghosts and other spirits moaning nonsense and trying to drag the hero down into the foggy deadness? that's what going on facebook is like
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 November 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link
the strategy is to overwhelm the uninformed with contrary information, so that have trouble figuring out which news they can and cannot trust. that way, when someone does something very bad (say, the president commits crimes for years on end while republicans do jack shit), a whole bunch of people shrug and say "welp, i heard that the whole thing is a hoax", when really, all they "heard" was some dumbass breitbart article headline that they scrolled past
it works
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 November 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link