But Is It on Netflix? - Streaming Video Service Thread: Hulu, Amazon Prime, Apple TV+, Disney+, Peacock, YouTube TV, AT+T Watch, Philo, Playstation Vue, HBO Max, HBO Now, Facebook Live and many more

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Not to mention that they've had some sort of falling out with at least Amazon and possibly other retailers so that being a DMC member is about the only easy/affordable way to buy some of their stuff.

Despite having affection for some of their output, never let it be said that I don't hold the corporate entity in utter contempt.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

If Netflix started vaulting content I think people would flip out.

DJI, Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

Exactly, because it's ... why people subscribe to Netflix! If Disney already has exclusive content, and has it locked down, then why would they remove it?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

the disney vault is a tactic they have used forever

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link

designing scarcity of their IP for commercial reasons

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ1zXTIUYzc

DJI, Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

Also, Netflix is constantly rotating out content. All of the streaming services do it. I don't know why Disney+ would be any different. Their original programming will probably stay put but I wouldn't count on anything else.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

Because Disney owns everything on their channel, but Netflix and Amazon and Criterion and so on are essentially leasing/borrowing most of their content.

But again, I cannot conceive of Disney taking a beloved property like "Frozen" offline just so that they can announce "'Frozen' is coming back to Disney+!" Maybe in the distant future, perhaps.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

Per the above, it would be like Netflix taking away "Stranger Things." Why would they do that? I understand the concept of artificial scarcity, but this is a subscription model; they already have our money on an ongoing basis. It's built in to the model, unlike selling a videotape, which is a one and done deal.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link

because they'll go through a fallow period like the mid-90s pre-Pixar acquisition and their main value proposition will be remastering and re-releasing old faves or whatever the new cynical business pitch is

I mean, that's if they're relatively pragmatic. It's not really in the interest of publicly-held companies to imply that they have anything less than an infinite growth model right now, regardless of industry. And it not growth, then trimming of expenses

mh, Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link

xpost Nah, as I mention, I'd expect them to adopt the Netflix model and keep all of the stuff created specifically for the services.

Look, I know this doesn't make sense. I agree with you. I'm just saying that there's scads of precedent suggesting what they'll likely do and I'll be way more surprised if they do just make everything available in perpetuity.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link

I think what they're far more likely to do is just keep jacking up prices, which is a much better extortion scheme. "We have your beloved Mermaid, now pay up!"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

If Netflix wanted to test out vaulting, they have the perfect show to try it with: House of Cards.

Vernon Locke, Thursday, 21 November 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link

"Vaulting" before was to make you buy the object quick so you could play it over and over in the future... is there a Blu-ray promotion aspect to Disney+, yet? The streaming equivalent is already in effect, it's built in..... Pay the monthly toll or else you can't watch Frozen every day.

Extras and stuff could be "cool" limited time features ("beauty and the beast month!")

maffew12, Friday, 22 November 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link

what Josh said

maffew12, Friday, 22 November 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link

FYI, Disney+ only allows 50 items in your watchlist, so don't try to add more than that. You won't be notified that you're removing stuff from the bottom of your list.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Sunday, 24 November 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

due to the general limited availability of the company's golden era of hand-drawn animation material (which is really all I'm interested in), I signed up for a trial of Disney+. They do have a lot, but it doesn't look like it comes close to everything and it's organized in a really weird way. For example, if you search for Goofy or Donald, it won't turn up all the shorts that they appear in - and the collection of shorts they do have are not complete either. Still, looks like all the feature films are there, which is great, and the shorts they do have are fantastic.

Οὖτις, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link

I searched for Donald Duck yesterday, myself

so there's stuff that didn't show up because they've tagged it poorly? that's good, because... I need more Donald

mh, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link

FYI, Disney+ only allows 50 items in your watchlist, so don't try to add more than that. You won't be notified that you're removing stuff from the bottom of your list.

I generally try to be forgiving about clunky interface stuff when things like this first launch, but LOL that is super fucking dumb.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 25 November 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

speaking as someone with 194 films in their Kanopy watchlist, and a five-item-a-month viewing limit, getting through <49 TV series at a time before adding another >49 is probably a sensible piece of guided user design

betting that not telling the user about the limit was a different person's decision

insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 25 November 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

yeah but what do they care what % of your watchlist you actually get through or if youre watching things in a sensible orderly fashion, just as long as youre continuously watching a steady diet of High Quality Disney Content? Its a feature that can only be experienced as an inconvenience.

If anything I'd think theyd want to encourage watchlist-bloat to make people think theyre getting more out of the service than they are. ("how can I cancel when I've still got 375 wonderful items of Disney Content queued up & waiting to delight me?")

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 25 November 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

Please tell me that the classic Muppet Show is on here and it's just another weird search error, because all I can find is nu Muppets.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 02:13 (four years ago) link

Please. They never even finished releasing the series on DVD, and a good number of bits were excised even then. Pretty sure it's in music rights limbo.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 03:07 (four years ago) link

Yes mh, things are tagged poorly. I searched for donald duck too, and only returned a handful of shorts. But then i looked through some other collections like “Disney through the Decades” and spotted a bunch of other shorts featuring Donald that had not turned up in my search.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 03:14 (four years ago) link

Xps

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 03:14 (four years ago) link

I have a lot of childhood fond memories of the educational “Donald in Mathmagic Land” and would love if it was streaming and not just a VHS tape I saved from my parents’ basement

mh, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link

Yeah thats not on Disney+ I have the tin collection w that tho. Its great

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 03:50 (four years ago) link

yeah but what do they care what % of your watchlist you actually get through or if youre watching things in a sensible orderly fashion, just as long as youre continuously watching a steady diet of High Quality Disney Content?

mb a calculation made on the amount of eg database calls / processing time / etc per login, freeing resources for menu rendering or content loading

Its a feature that can only be experienced as an inconvenience.

only if they don’t tell you! it could be sold as a feature: “pick your top 50 out of our 794 content options” or w/e, grabbing the chance to sell rather than obfuscate

insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 07:03 (four years ago) link

even if i knew, i would still find it inconvenient if i had 50 things in my queue and noticed something i wanted to see sometime and had to make a mental note to go back add it after i watched the next thing that i watched, but i dunno maybe my streaming habits are outside the mainstream, i usually have huge queues of stuff

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

I never queue anything

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

Things come and go so quickly/randomly I figure whats the point?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

I actually just went through a bunch of my streaming stuff and edited my watch list, which was useful, because there was stuff I had downloaded months ago that I hadn't gotten around to watching yet, and I learned a bunch of it had finally made its way to one of the services.

Looks like Muppets Take Manhattan isn't there either, and some other Muppets stuff. Rights must be a mess.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

For All Mankind on Apple TV is pretty good

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 21 December 2019 03:58 (four years ago) link

yes! agree. I am enjoying it. Ep 3 with their take on theMercury 13 women was really great imo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 December 2019 23:53 (four years ago) link

Ooh, that looks just my thing!

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:20 (four years ago) link

100% your thing

it’s so spacenerdy, i love it so much

though it is weird af that frank sobotka is deke slayton

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 03:38 (four years ago) link

I ordered, then cancelled Disney + after being unable to stream anything without it freezing for extended periods or just simply stalling out before ever loading any content. Would be nice if the apps would allow you to adjust streaming quality settings, or for that matter any common customizations like that.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 03:55 (four years ago) link

ADVENTURES IN BABYSITTING is censored on Disney+, altering the only good line ("Don't fuck with the babysitter" becomes "Don't fool with..."). How is this a paid streaming service?

— Bill Chambers (@flmfrkcentral) January 2, 2020

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Sunday, 5 January 2020 23:10 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK2ZGOsbeqo

When I was a kid we lived next to an office building which housed the local McDonalds corporate office. We would skateboard in the underground parking lot under the building, and at some point in the late 70s/early 80s we found winning McDonalds Monopoly pieces in and around the dumpster. These were all just for food, mind you. I think they were throwing out all the winning tickets in that dumpster (without voiding them or destroying them). Me and my friend would grab them, head to McDonalds, and ask people to get us the food (since you had to make a purchase). Many chicken nuggets were consumed.

DJI, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

apple tv+ is the most barren of these innit? around 20 original series, then everything else you need to pay for.

wasdnuos (abanana), Thursday, 30 January 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link

yeah, they are not doing well. I want to rep for "Little America" though which is very good.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 30 January 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link

dis+ is very lame to me. basically one original show so far?? thought they'd be smart and have tons of new content in the hopper. Netflix is lapping them.

omg what did you type to find this gif? (Spottie), Thursday, 30 January 2020 19:31 (four years ago) link

Dis+ is very much not meant for people like us. It is for people who kids who want to watch Aladdin over and over again.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 30 January 2020 19:33 (four years ago) link

the novelty of being able to watch boy meets world was kinda fun for 3 minutes till I started an episode...
same with most of the old stuff on there.

omg what did you type to find this gif? (Spottie), Thursday, 30 January 2020 19:33 (four years ago) link

well if they have dreams of stomping out their competitors then they'll need more than that

omg what did you type to find this gif? (Spottie), Thursday, 30 January 2020 19:34 (four years ago) link

Agree, I'm having fun catching up on all of the Star Wars shows I'd never seen but once I'm done I won't have much use for it until the new Marvel shows drop (although I'm mildly intrigued by all the cruddy Fox Kids early-'90s Marvel cartoons on there, at least until I actually try to watch them). If it hadn't been gifted to me I probably would've waited a year to get onboard.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 January 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link

yeah we got disney+ off a free trial so boo could watch the baby yoda show (as she thinks of it), and we've let it roll one paid month to continue my project of watching a bunch of listless and occasionally charming 70s live-action movie. in that time, so far i think the only new thing they've added was the CGI Lion King remake. tellingly, the Roku app doesn't even *have* a "newly added" section (along with many other odd interface choices). agreed that it's basically for families that in earlier times would have bought a bunch of clamshell VHS, and got fancy cable packages solely for the sake of the disney channel. once I can finally arrange for my one buddy to come over for a double feature of "the strongest man in the world" and "the castaway cowboy," i'm dropping this thing for either Mubi or Criterion Channel.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 30 January 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link

i feel like cancelling disney + since mandalorian is done, and picking it up again when the new marvel shows start.

akm, Thursday, 30 January 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link

Watch the Clone Wars. I'm promoting it all over the place, it's great. And a new final season is airing streaming soon.

The Imagineering docuseries was quite good, as well. Surprisingly more objective than I'd expected, too.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 January 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link

We had PS Vue which dies at the end of this month RIP
have now signed up for YouTube Tv which seems like it has pretty much the same stuff & local channels.

we also got appletv+ free for a year
i like the Morning Show & For All Mankind, yet to investigate their other shows

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 31 January 2020 01:31 (four years ago) link


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