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I mean, slowly yank content from the service as long as they're still maintaining or growing a subscriber base. As soon as it flatlines: "Welcome to Beauty & The Beast month on Disney+! We're bringing back all your favorite B&tB content along with two exclusive interview specials!"

They've made mad bank for decades fomenting artificial scarcity. They aren't about to stop now.

Like did you guys know The Black Hole has finally been released on Blu-ray? Oh, but only to Disney Movie Club members, sorry proles.

Weren't Disney DVDs of their big movies only available for a limited time? xp

And on VHS before that!

While it would not surprise me, it would, well, surprise me if Disney+, which was created as an exclusive subscription home for Marvel, Disney, Pixar, etc., started taking their own stuff out of circulation from their exclusive subscription service to create a sense of artificial scarcity to get people to ... subscribe to its exclusive service?

Yeah, that's still the case for their core of old-school animated classics. They're at least only vaulting shit for a couple of years now but it's still stupid as hell. And I say that as someone who owns those old-school classics and has no personal reason to grouse.

Like, it seems as unlikely to me that they would ever take off, say, "Star Wars" or "The Little Mermaid" as it does that they would withhold a cartoon I've never heard of as an incentive for people to subscribe in the future.

Not to mention that they've had some sort of falling out with at least Amazon and possibly other retailers so that being a DMC member is about the only easy/affordable way to buy some of their stuff.

Despite having affection for some of their output, never let it be said that I don't hold the corporate entity in utter contempt.

If Netflix started vaulting content I think people would flip out.

Exactly, because it's ... why people subscribe to Netflix! If Disney already has exclusive content, and has it locked down, then why would they remove it?

the disney vault is a tactic they have used forever

designing scarcity of their IP for commercial reasons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ1zXTIUYzc

Also, Netflix is constantly rotating out content. All of the streaming services do it. I don't know why Disney+ would be any different. Their original programming will probably stay put but I wouldn't count on anything else.

Because Disney owns everything on their channel, but Netflix and Amazon and Criterion and so on are essentially leasing/borrowing most of their content.

But again, I cannot conceive of Disney taking a beloved property like "Frozen" offline just so that they can announce "'Frozen' is coming back to Disney+!" Maybe in the distant future, perhaps.

Per the above, it would be like Netflix taking away "Stranger Things." Why would they do that? I understand the concept of artificial scarcity, but this is a subscription model; they already have our money on an ongoing basis. It's built in to the model, unlike selling a videotape, which is a one and done deal.

because they'll go through a fallow period like the mid-90s pre-Pixar acquisition and their main value proposition will be remastering and re-releasing old faves or whatever the new cynical business pitch is

I mean, that's if they're relatively pragmatic. It's not really in the interest of publicly-held companies to imply that they have anything less than an infinite growth model right now, regardless of industry. And it not growth, then trimming of expenses

xpost Nah, as I mention, I'd expect them to adopt the Netflix model and keep all of the stuff created specifically for the services.

Look, I know this doesn't make sense. I agree with you. I'm just saying that there's scads of precedent suggesting what they'll likely do and I'll be way more surprised if they do just make everything available in perpetuity.

I think what they're far more likely to do is just keep jacking up prices, which is a much better extortion scheme. "We have your beloved Mermaid, now pay up!"

If Netflix wanted to test out vaulting, they have the perfect show to try it with: House of Cards.

"Vaulting" before was to make you buy the object quick so you could play it over and over in the future... is there a Blu-ray promotion aspect to Disney+, yet? The streaming equivalent is already in effect, it's built in..... Pay the monthly toll or else you can't watch Frozen every day.

Extras and stuff could be "cool" limited time features ("beauty and the beast month!")

what Josh said

FYI, Disney+ only allows 50 items in your watchlist, so don't try to add more than that. You won't be notified that you're removing stuff from the bottom of your list.

due to the general limited availability of the company's golden era of hand-drawn animation material (which is really all I'm interested in), I signed up for a trial of Disney+. They do have a lot, but it doesn't look like it comes close to everything and it's organized in a really weird way. For example, if you search for Goofy or Donald, it won't turn up all the shorts that they appear in - and the collection of shorts they do have are not complete either. Still, looks like all the feature films are there, which is great, and the shorts they do have are fantastic.

I searched for Donald Duck yesterday, myself

so there's stuff that didn't show up because they've tagged it poorly? that's good, because... I need more Donald

FYI, Disney+ only allows 50 items in your watchlist, so don't try to add more than that. You won't be notified that you're removing stuff from the bottom of your list.

I generally try to be forgiving about clunky interface stuff when things like this first launch, but LOL that is super fucking dumb.

speaking as someone with 194 films in their Kanopy watchlist, and a five-item-a-month viewing limit, getting through <49 TV series at a time before adding another >49 is probably a sensible piece of guided user design

betting that not telling the user about the limit was a different person's decision

yeah but what do they care what % of your watchlist you actually get through or if youre watching things in a sensible orderly fashion, just as long as youre continuously watching a steady diet of High Quality Disney Content? Its a feature that can only be experienced as an inconvenience.

If anything I'd think theyd want to encourage watchlist-bloat to make people think theyre getting more out of the service than they are. ("how can I cancel when I've still got 375 wonderful items of Disney Content queued up & waiting to delight me?")

Please tell me that the classic Muppet Show is on here and it's just another weird search error, because all I can find is nu Muppets.

Please. They never even finished releasing the series on DVD, and a good number of bits were excised even then. Pretty sure it's in music rights limbo.

Yes mh, things are tagged poorly. I searched for donald duck too, and only returned a handful of shorts. But then i looked through some other collections like “Disney through the Decades” and spotted a bunch of other shorts featuring Donald that had not turned up in my search.

Xps

I have a lot of childhood fond memories of the educational “Donald in Mathmagic Land” and would love if it was streaming and not just a VHS tape I saved from my parents’ basement

Yeah thats not on Disney+ I have the tin collection w that tho. Its great

yeah but what do they care what % of your watchlist you actually get through or if youre watching things in a sensible orderly fashion, just as long as youre continuously watching a steady diet of High Quality Disney Content?

mb a calculation made on the amount of eg database calls / processing time / etc per login, freeing resources for menu rendering or content loading

Its a feature that can only be experienced as an inconvenience.

only if they don’t tell you! it could be sold as a feature: “pick your top 50 out of our 794 content options” or w/e, grabbing the chance to sell rather than obfuscate

even if i knew, i would still find it inconvenient if i had 50 things in my queue and noticed something i wanted to see sometime and had to make a mental note to go back add it after i watched the next thing that i watched, but i dunno maybe my streaming habits are outside the mainstream, i usually have huge queues of stuff

I never queue anything

Things come and go so quickly/randomly I figure whats the point?

I actually just went through a bunch of my streaming stuff and edited my watch list, which was useful, because there was stuff I had downloaded months ago that I hadn't gotten around to watching yet, and I learned a bunch of it had finally made its way to one of the services.

Looks like Muppets Take Manhattan isn't there either, and some other Muppets stuff. Rights must be a mess.

For All Mankind on Apple TV is pretty good

yes! agree. I am enjoying it. Ep 3 with their take on theMercury 13 women was really great imo

Ooh, that looks just my thing!

100% your thing

it’s so spacenerdy, i love it so much

though it is weird af that frank sobotka is deke slayton

I ordered, then cancelled Disney + after being unable to stream anything without it freezing for extended periods or just simply stalling out before ever loading any content. Would be nice if the apps would allow you to adjust streaming quality settings, or for that matter any common customizations like that.

ADVENTURES IN BABYSITTING is censored on Disney+, altering the only good line ("Don't fuck with the babysitter" becomes "Don't fool with..."). How is this a paid streaming service?

— Bill Chambers (@flmfrkcentral) January 2, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK2ZGOsbeqo

When I was a kid we lived next to an office building which housed the local McDonalds corporate office. We would skateboard in the underground parking lot under the building, and at some point in the late 70s/early 80s we found winning McDonalds Monopoly pieces in and around the dumpster. These were all just for food, mind you. I think they were throwing out all the winning tickets in that dumpster (without voiding them or destroying them). Me and my friend would grab them, head to McDonalds, and ask people to get us the food (since you had to make a purchase). Many chicken nuggets were consumed.

apple tv+ is the most barren of these innit? around 20 original series, then everything else you need to pay for.

yeah, they are not doing well. I want to rep for "Little America" though which is very good.

dis+ is very lame to me. basically one original show so far?? thought they'd be smart and have tons of new content in the hopper. Netflix is lapping them.

Dis+ is very much not meant for people like us. It is for people who kids who want to watch Aladdin over and over again.