US Politics, November 2019: These people are truly sick.

xp

holy shit where does Karl Malone hang out?

generally on ilx tbh! i didn't get alfred's reference to someone who wants to wrestle me, though. i know that karl malone - mean, i, karl malone - wrestled with dennis rodman back in the day. but - FACT CHECK, LIVE - rodman did not and does not serve as a GOP congressman

if Obama had only given them these javelins Trump would not have had to bride anyone! Thanks Obama

They ain't the people it needs to play with

if republican pols have learned anything in the past decade, it is the need to protect their right flank from tea party primary challenges. they don't see any other voters in their gerrymandered districts as worth fearing or pandering to.

for party of Law and Order they sure do tolerate (or even encourage) a great deal of corruption & other "rule bending" from their ppl, while the freewheeling godless Dems don't to anywhere near the same degree

Holmes eyeroll at Jordan was good but I want someone to full Benny Mardones eyeroll at the fucker

GOP is more the party of words that don't actually mean anything afaict.

Fucking MAGA
How does it work

This guy dunking on Nunes.

Nunes will just say the backboard moved

So somebody got to Starr since yesterday afternoon? Now he's saying "nowhere close" to impeachable offenses, despite his certainty yesterday?

Dec thread title BTW : "you can tell the Kardashians you tried"

Hurd can afford to be generous: he ain't running for reelection.

xpost Apparently the Starr quote was taken out of context? It might have been Starr paraphrasing a hypothetical Schiff.

So somebody got to Starr since yesterday afternoon? Now he's saying "nowhere close" to impeachable offenses, despite his certainty yesterday?

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, November 21, 2019 2:04 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Perhaps he's the other party in those photos Lindsey Graham keeps being reminded about.

sorry k3v and symsym I was mixing up the Intercept with Splinternews upthread.

xps

oops wrong thread

elsewhere

New FEC disclosures show a single large RNC payment of $94,800 to Books-a-Million in October, a few days before "Triggered" was released. An RNC spokesman confirmed that the expenditure was connected to their promotion of Don Trump Jr.'s book. pic.twitter.com/vsmmsgrYCp

— Nick Confessore (@nickconfessore) November 21, 2019

This stunned me. A single golf outing by @realdonaldtrump in April 2017 appears to have brought Trump's club $28,800 in spending by the Secret Service agents who protect Trump.
Thanks to @propotp for obtaining these documents. https://t.co/TpzSeLcdqv

— David Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold) November 21, 2019

How do you spend $28,000 in one day at a golf club that doesnt have overnight rooms? We are trying to find out now.

— David Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold) November 21, 2019

Gift shop swag?

This was pretty stunning. Between Sondland and Hill, everyone is now in the barrel. Trump, Pence, Mulvaney, Pompeo, all of them.

This is a critical, critical portion of testimony. pic.twitter.com/aO7gJBG8Ia

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 21, 2019

what the fuck day of the week is Sundee

I know this is the last scheduled public hearing, but the GOP are right about one thing: they're going to impeach, so this is more or less all for show.

My very rural Illinois grandmother used to pronounce it pretty close to Sundee. Like a weird halfway point between DAY and DEE.

Because impeachment is essentially political in nature and requires public acceptance and understanding in order to work, this kind of "show" is a necessary and integral part of that process. Another word for it is "transparency'.

"Mansplaining"!

"all for show" is too damn dismissive and needed countering

‘Sundy’ is a very Midwest pronunciation but we are ILX and recoil at the thought of ‘sundae’.

xpost Oh, you don't have to tell me that (even though I said it). I know *why* they're doing it, there's just nothing that will change the outcome at this point.

lol today is the day of people reminding me of things I'd successfully blocked from my memory

first Amanda Palmer, now Tuomas sundae

I deal with a lot of our sales force in the Midwest and haven't picked up on that xxp

xpost I, personally, find this all fascinating and compelling. Still, I've watched more or less all the hearings, and if I'm being honest, it's been like watching the same hearing over and over again, bar one or two fleeting moments. (Like being on this thread, har!)

xp - It's definitely not universally Midwestern, but it's sprinkled throughout, ime, typically more rural areas.

I know this is the last scheduled public hearing, but the GOP are right about one thing: they're going to impeach, so this is more or less all for show.

eh, i disagree. i mean, on one level, you're right - the last month or so has all been a show, in a sense. they're going to impeach, and the senate will very likely acquit.

but these hearings are what help to create the supporting evidence for the house report and articles of impeachment. that's why you have the boring democratic legal counsel guy asking questions, to strengthen his report and make it as precise and as strongly supported as possible. that process is still happening, even in this final hearing.

for some reason my mom now says fry-dee but pronounces the other days normally

Is she partying, partying (yeah)?

Fun fun fun.

Fiona Hill is has been pretty fucking great

I like her.

Anyway, speaking of the same hearing over and over, here comes Nunes.

he has nothing of substance at all it's a joke

, here comes Nunes

bet he got tired of high school classmates saying this behind his back

thanks for the chronology dumbass

Nunes doesn't even deserve to be a middle manager in some fledgling company. what an empty vessel

He's like a bovine-bureaucrat hybrid

Fake Nunes.

I haven’t listened to a lot of this, but just got an hour and half during a long car ride. Republicans really don’t have anything of substance to say, do they. Fucking clown show. Did get a good laugh at the GOP yahoo from Texas who bizarrely started going off about Russian propaganda related to, specifically, fracking. Which obviously has nothing to do with anything but himself.

jacob wohl's dad released a charity sex calendar today. peace.

Charity sex? Am I in it?

do any of you have any idea how delightful it is to discuss vaping with the President

Schiff is all like
https://farsightedblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/billy-madison.jpg

the GOP are right about one thing: they're going to impeach, so this is more or less all for show

wait wasn't it the GOP that demanded these hearings??

I'm surprised they're not demanding these hearing be "secret" again. I could sworn one of them tried that the other day.