END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

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well now I guess we know what's going to dominate tonight's debate

Inbox: Bernie Sanders coming out against proposal to shutter three Iowa minor league baseball teams (Quad City River Bandits, Burlington Bees and Clinton LumberKings)

— Lissandra Villa (@LissandraVilla) November 20, 2019

Simon H., Wednesday, 20 November 2019 22:09 (four years ago) link

big news about the Clinton Lumberkings emails

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link

he had good answers to loaded questions tonight. how many did he get? 3?

flappy bird, Thursday, 21 November 2019 05:26 (four years ago) link

coming for the goon cru vote

bernie sanders spoke at morehouse college today and walked out to "pick up the phone" by young thug and travis scott pic.twitter.com/mhOql2dC3z

— jordan (@JordanUhl) November 21, 2019

Simon H., Thursday, 21 November 2019 23:47 (four years ago) link

fuck yeah

treeship., Thursday, 21 November 2019 23:48 (four years ago) link

they see him pollin

#NEW National @EmersonPolling

Biden 27
Sanders 27
Warren 20
Buttigieg 7
Yang 4
Harris 3
Gabbard/Steyer 2

https://t.co/DfN4kPood0 pic.twitter.com/HfmgwwmM9a

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) November 21, 2019

cheese canopy (map), Friday, 22 November 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link

Nice

treeship., Friday, 22 November 2019 00:57 (four years ago) link

im a smooth bernie truther

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...

cheese canopy (map), Friday, 22 November 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link

bernie slam fist to blue monday by new order pic.twitter.com/4O4IzeHPMD

— all conservatives are ghouls (@karlmorx) November 25, 2019

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link

*plays this before the big game to get Pumped*

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link

Jimmy Fallon can’t shoot free-throws to save his life

Someone else is noticeably better at it

Jimmy & Senator @BernieSanders shoot some hoops while discussing the 2020 race 🏀 #FallonTonight pic.twitter.com/jp26zqcXCJ

— Fallon Tonight (@FallonTonight) November 27, 2019

In that case, some footage of @jimmyfallon and @BernieSanders during rehearsal https://t.co/01BoIuzeEX pic.twitter.com/IDUcmkP3KO

— Faiz (@fshakir) November 27, 2019

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 28 November 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

<3

💠 (crüt), Thursday, 28 November 2019 22:46 (four years ago) link

tha fuckin god

k3vin k., Thursday, 28 November 2019 22:48 (four years ago) link

bernie buckets

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Thursday, 28 November 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link

bernie rains 3s, ends climate change

jesus is zing (symsymsym), Friday, 29 November 2019 06:57 (four years ago) link

hahaha

k3vin k., Friday, 29 November 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

Bernie 2020. Pass it on. pic.twitter.com/pp8i0GJpx8

— Winifred (@WaywardWinifred) November 29, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 November 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link

Bernie 2020. Pass it on. pic.twitter.com/pp8i0GJpx8

— Winifred (@WaywardWinifred) November 29, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 November 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link

my man

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Friday, 29 November 2019 23:47 (four years ago) link

more Sanders erasure, but tbh I'm wondering how much it even hurts him

Here are the results of this poll:

Sanders 24%
Warren 22%
Biden 14%
Buttigieg 12%

Now look at the headline.

It takes the LA Times three paragraphs to mention who is leading.https://t.co/f6J9JFEsZa pic.twitter.com/gi1hw0KN8M

— Ari Rabin-Havt (@AriRabinHavt) December 5, 2019

Simon H., Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link

It doesn't hurt him, he thrives on manufactured outrage. And it's not really as if his campaign is going that well, so he wouldn't get that much out of it if they took him serious.

Frederik B, Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

i think we're gonna look back on the malign neglect with fondness after he wins a few primaries, when the other candidates' (and media outlets') totally legitimate concerns over anti-israel racist misogynist berniebros dominate the narrative.

sovereignty flight, Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

he may very well be intentionally neglected by the mainstream media for nefarious reasons but the complaints about it come off as petty + tedious

Mordy, Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

It’s weird as fuck guys. Period.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

is it really that weird? I'm not even sure most people are "complaining" as much as observing/documenting a pretty clear and expected bias. to my knowledge people aren't out there lobbying MSNBC to cover him fairly or whatever, they know the score

Simon H., Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

It's not 'weird as fuck' to focus a primary story on the two front runners. It's myopic, but it's absolutely explainable.

Frederik B, Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

Yeah I think it’s pretty weird

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

It's a myopia that seems mysteriously to plague the entirety of mass media.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

and ftr was not a Bernie guy in 2016 and only recently decided he’s my #1 primary choice

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

That's what a media narrative is! These two candidates are important, and there are also all these other candidates.

Frederik B, Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

One of my favorite recent headline examples:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news/surprising-candidate-draws-support-deep-in-trump-country/vi-BBXxnbv

"Surprising candidate" folks. The answer may surprise you!

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

god the Trillbillies rule

Simon H., Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

it's absolutely explainable

for sure

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link

And it's not really as if his campaign is going that well


I’m not sure what the barometer is for a campaign “going well” (I mean, in this particular environment I honestly don’t, no snark here), but if his isn’t “going well” then woe is the Democratic Party. Because the only other one currently “going well” (on paper) features a sundowning grandpa who sucked his wife’s fingers at a campaign stop and is convinced that once Trump is gone the GOP will go right back to being honest brokers like they were from time immemorial until January 20, 2017.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link

I’m not sure what the barometer is for a campaign “going well”

being the california frontrunner can help, but the real key is not being tedious.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

I just don't get the idea that the Sanders campaign is going well on paper? He is polling ten points behind Biden in the 538 average, and Buttigieg has been surging in the early states. He seems to have overtaken Elizabeth Warren once more, but that's not enough, is it?

Frederik B, Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

here's a better reckoning:

California poll: LATimes/UC Berkeley

Sanders 24% (+5 since Sept.)
Warren 22% (-7)
Biden 14% (-6)
Buttigieg 12% (+6)
Harris 7%* (-1)

(*conducted before she dropped out)https://t.co/z9wl5lAgkw pic.twitter.com/Vj9OQR6jGA

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) December 5, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

tbf Harris might see an uptick now that she's out of the running

Simon H., Thursday, 5 December 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

Lol

Frederik B, Thursday, 5 December 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

Tsongas came in 2nd place in NY two weeks after he dropped out of the race

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 December 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

in all seriousness I don't see any reason yet to assume Buttigieg has legs, and if/when people who aren't Harris drop out, most of those other candidates' fans (eg Gabbard, Yang) seem more likely to migrate to Bernie than anyone else. Biden still by some distance the biggest worry but I mean his brain could leak out the side of his skull at any moment

Simon H., Thursday, 5 December 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

i definitely think it's worth noting, especially on the thread devoted to dudes' primary run lol, but i don't honestly see it as a huge deal. it seems to me his support does not come from joy anne reid reply guys who are super tuned-in to stories about primary polls

sovereignty flight, Thursday, 5 December 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

Classic fred b itt. Sanders campaign not doing that well (he's the front runner), Mayor Pete doing well (no one that isn't white will vote for him)

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 5 December 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

From someone who has a clue.

My take about this stuff is that being underrated in the major press relative to actual data is probably good for the Sanders campaign at this point. https://t.co/izXG5JbS87

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) December 5, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 December 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link

yeah it was Osita's thread that got me thinking about this stuff. (lol at the apparently real Jesse Jackson magazine cover downthread)

Simon H., Thursday, 5 December 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

yes absolutely. the msm has a toxic reputation - it's a good thing if they seem hostile to you. (see also: djt)

Mordy, Thursday, 5 December 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

in all seriousness I don't see any reason yet to assume Buttigieg has legs, and if/when people who aren't Harris drop out, most of those other candidates' fans (eg Gabbard, Yang) seem more likely to migrate to Bernie than anyone else. Biden still by some distance the biggest worry but I mean his brain could leak out the side of his skull at any moment

― Simon H., 5. december 2019 17:10 (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Right, but here's the problem. According to Nate Silver, Gabbard is polling at 1,6, Yang at 3,2. Biden is almost ten points ahead.

Frederik B, Thursday, 5 December 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

Like I said, he's still by some distance the biggest problem.

Simon H., Thursday, 5 December 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

That said, imo anything that chips away at his narrative of inevitability will chip away at his inevitability.

Simon H., Thursday, 5 December 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link


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