Okay, reminder that I still need to read all that too!I don't know how her whole life-cycle might compare to those of Norton and McC.'s valiant women, but already, in this 1934 Weird Tales tale I tripped on above, Jirel of Jorey is a badass with emotional conflicts to match or overmatch physical violence, of which there is plenty, in a pulpy yet non-gratuitous way. I don't know that such a combo would have been acceptable in a comparable male character (don't recall Conan having those feels, although creator Robert E. Howard seemed to flame out after his mother's death, right? So maybe Conan did have some perceptible vulnerabilities somewhere--or Red Sonja? Never read stories of her).Here, at least, Jirel seems like an ancestor of 60s teen angst Peter Parker->Spiderman--and his future peer Paul Atreides, who will have not wanna be no Dune Messiah for the Universe--and all or many such subsequent superheros and heroines.
― dow, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
lol idk if you need to read *all* of it, I stopped after the first Ghormenghast book lol
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
Yeah, me too.
title is from Mervyn Peake/Ghormenghast
― Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link
All Cats Are Gray
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link
although huh I guess there is some idiomatic saying that predates Peake? idk
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
Poor Richard’s Almanac, if not earlier, I would hazard to guess.
― Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link
No, that's "All Cats Are Gay."
― dow, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link
"Like Horses!"
― dow, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link
You guys have got to be kidding.
― Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link
Usually see that quote attributed to Ben Franklin, although Wikipedia seems to have an earlier citation as well.
― Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link
it's french you rubes
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.linternaute.com/proverbe/75/la-nuit-tous-les-chats-sont-gris/&prev=search
― The Pingularity (ledge), Thursday, 21 November 2019 09:52 (four years ago) link
voted tombs of atuan btw, where earthsea starts to get interesting (i.e. not patriarchal).
― The Pingularity (ledge), Thursday, 21 November 2019 09:53 (four years ago) link
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― Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link
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― System, Friday, 6 December 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
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― System, Saturday, 7 December 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
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― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 7 December 2019 00:23 (four years ago) link
Poor "The Farthest Shore" -- always the bridesmaid, never the bride.
― doctor johnson (askance johnson), Saturday, 7 December 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link