Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

Gonna be a long wait for Phase 4

let's take it back to Marvel

https://www.reddit.com/r/disney/comments/4kfaqv/are_the_incredibles_in_the_marvel_universe_now/

the script for The Incredibles is plot point for plot point and at every step philosophically a close approximation of The Fountainhead, if you don't see if you have blinders on i'm sorry that's simply how it is. nb i have neither seen the incredibles nor read the fountainhead.

― omar little, Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:09 PM bookmarkflaglink

Lol

This derail is so much more entertaining than the thread had been previously.

speaking of democracy being a bad idea and some entities having too much power

"the forseeable future of how movies are made, shown, and seen?"

for the love of fucking christ

― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, October 24, 2019 2:34 AM (four weeks ago)

(four weeks ago)

Is there actually a thread where we can anticipate Frozen 2?

My one wish is that it treats the trashy retcon Olaf's Frozen Adventure as non-canon.

Disney's newest movie FROZEN, loosely based on The Snow Queen

thx, sic

Olaf's Frozen Adventure

ugh @ this thuleist swill

lmao it's gonna be fun to see just how crazy this thread gets in the 5 months between now and the next MCU release

It's practically inert when there are actually current movies to discuss.

place your bets on the first one to flop:
https://collider.com/upcoming-new-superhero-movies-2016-2020-release-dates/

New Mutants seems like the obvious one. Hope I'm wrong though!

Hope they all fucking bomb

i will admit that i'm into maisie williams as rahne but i won't likely see any of these at all as I'm pretty burnt out. Maybe once they're on video.

for purposes of this thread, New Mutants /= MCU

Fair enough. Eternals then

yeah that's gonna be interesting... little-known and tbh p goofy project orthogonal to mainstream MU/MCU... but hey Guardians worked out okay

The Jared Leto movie will flop, Birds of Prey might

aw cmon Jared Leto as ILX's own Dr. Morbius will pack 'em in at the multiplex

i've been saying this over and over again but once more: chloe zhao is a great filmmaker and i WILL actually see Eternals in the theaters for her sake but i'm not expecting it to be CINEMA mwah haw haw

(four weeks ago)

― insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, November 21, 2019 8:35 AM (twelve hours ago)

since posting this, a December 7th screening of Jingle All The Way has been withdrawn from the Redmond Theatre in Detroit, a fact I read after returning from a Seattle theatre that has it scheduled for the 19th

a) Good
b) Insisting that the MCU is what's responsible for this isn't any better a look than four weeks ago.

do you think repealing the Paramount Decrees is good?

No, of course not.

Disney wasn’t subject to the Paramount Decrees (just fyi)

The world where the Disney-Fox merger went through is the only of all possible worlds where sic goes to bat for certified popcorn classic Jingle All the Way.

Further to my earlier post:

I remember Alan Moore many years ago talking about a 1970s UK fanzine article that raised the question of fascism in relation to superhero comics, and how influential this was on his thinking about the form - so this isn't a new thing for him, or for comics fandom.

― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:51 AM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

I was pleased to see this post on the author Stan Nichols FB page the other day:

A friend has pointed me to an interview with Alan Moore from ‘Comic Book Artist’ issue 9. Talking about the genesis of Watchmen, Alan says:

“I remember at the time - this would’ve been when I was just starting to get involved in British comics fandom - there was a British fanzine that was published over here by a gentleman called Stan Nicholls (who has since gone to write a number of fantasy books). In Stan’s fanzine, Stardock, there was an article called “Propaganda, or Why the Blue Beetle Voted for George Wallace.” (laughter) This was the late-’60s, and British comics fandom had quite a strong hippie element. Despite the fact that Steve Ditko was obviously a hero to the hippies with his psychedelic “Dr. Strange” work and for the teen angst of Spider-Man, Ditko’s politics were obviously very different from those fans. His views were apparent through his portrayals of Mr. A and the protesters or beatniks that occasionally surfaced in his other work. I think this article was the first to actually point out that, yes, Steve Ditko did have a very right-wing agenda (which of course, he’s completely entitled to), but at the time, it was quite interesting, and that probably led to me portraying [Watchmen character] Rorschach as an extremely right-wing character.”

The article in question was by the late Michel Parry. I know Michel would have been chuffed, as I am, to have played a small part in inspiring a character in Watchmen.
You can read the full text of the CBA interview with Alan here:
https://www.twomorrows.com/comicbooka…/articles/09moore.html

He doesn’t mention fascism in that excerpt(?)

it's kinda fucked up that Scorcese bashed comic book movies and now he's adapting Irish Man

He doesn’t mention fascism in that excerpt(?)

he didn't use the word fascism in the 2016 interview either, you and Mordy did

Uh... ok?

At any rate, Moore will be gratified to see his observations about superhero whiteness echoed and expanded by the creator of a project that Moore can totally get beh-

https://www.salon.com/2019/11/26/watchmen-creator-damon-lindelof-talks-about-americas-white-superhero-complex/amp

Marvel and I have mutually agreed to part ways on Doctor Strange: In the Multiverse of Madness due to creative differences. I am thankful for our collaboration and will remain on as EP.

— N O S ⋊ Ɔ I ᴚ ᴚ Ǝ ᗡ ⊥ ⊥ O Ɔ S (@scottderrickson) January 10, 2020

"writer/director of The Exorcism of Emily Rose, Sinister, Doctor Strange and not the upcoming Doctor Strange: In The Multiverse of Madness"

rip big man, heaven needed a mediocre director who made a distinctly lower-tier marvel movie

That's a harsh way to describe Iron Man + Shrooms.

sorry sorry sorry can we go back to talking about Jingle All The Way for a second...
are we saying Turbo Man is now in the MCU?

Yeah, he certainly was no Jon Favreau.

Coke commercials are trve cinema.

One of my kids asked to rewatch "Dr. Strange," so ... we did. It remains competent but pretty minor, and it still bugs me how set-y the sets are. All the action seems to take place on a single city block, or a single Nepalese street, or a single Hong Kong market, all of which just scream "generic backlot." But when it was done I realized she had never seen the original "Captain America" (among other Marvel movies), so we watched that, and it holds up really well. I hadn't seen it since the theaters, but the acting and writing are strong, and the action sequences are pretty tight. The way Captain America and Iron Man were written and established in their respective first films really nailed a portrayal they maintained throughout all the movies. Cynical head vs. loyal heart.

Yeah, basically the ones I'd recommend to the uninitiated are the first Cap, the first Iron Man, and the first (Holland) Spidey. Maybe Black Panther ('tho I've still only seen it one time). If you aren't looking to go deep, that's probably all you need.

I’ve only seen a few, but would put Ragnarok high on the list.

the next movie is gonna be about the Avengers being divided on mask-wearing

bless the 'ronnie for granting us an MCU reprieve

Anthony Mackie Says Marvel Movies Need to Do Better About Diversity

xpost There hasn't been a new MCU movie released in over a year. You're complaining just to hear yourself complain. But I presume that you know this.

I want to be on the record that I won’t mind if GotG3 has a couple of covid jokes

I’ve only seen a few, but would put Ragnarok high on the list.

I've only seen a few but would count Ragnarok as extremely bewildering to the uninitiated

Ant-Man and Guardians are fine for stand-alone viewing

I guess if you’re truly not familiar with the characters (or read Marvel comics), then Ragnarok wouldn’t be the best first choice. I hadn’t seen any of the movies directly leading up to it, and got it fine. But I know who the Asgardians and Hulk are.