But Is It on Netflix? - Streaming Video Service Thread: Hulu, Amazon Prime, Apple TV+, Disney+, Peacock, YouTube TV, AT+T Watch, Philo, Playstation Vue, HBO Max, HBO Now, Facebook Live and many more

You know the most messed up thing about this streaming service Balkanization? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but none of these services are streaming "Die Hard!" What's up with that?!! 'Tis the season!

the Disney-Fox merger and film/TV production/exhibition hegemony in general

Disney+ users have been hacked.

The hackers have stolen thousands of customer accounts, days after the launch of the service, and are selling the accounts on the dark web.https://t.co/KLXM86WluJ

— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) November 19, 2019

netflix movie selection has DEFINITELY declined. amazon, sad to say, is the only one of the "non-snob" services that consistently has some kinda cool movies one could be curious about, tho often these will turn out to be transfers from late 80s pan-n-scan VHS releases, complete with the logo of some forgotten, perky little company

― weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Saturday, November 16, 2019 5:00 PM bookmarkflaglink

the major advantage that appealed to me about Amazon's video collection = kung fu movies. Amazon had a ridiculous amount of classic ones streaming free a few months ago. was practically getting through two a day.

Netflix has some, but not as many

that disney plus hack seems like kind of a big deal? first i've heard of it.

of course the day I joined it

'the dark web' lol, selling them on reddit for <$3/account. bitcoin only of course

my netflix details got sold to someone in Germany 4 years ago, but the idiot violated the cardinal rule "don't change the accountholder's password", so I found out about it almost immediately

My much more obsessive teenager, who had been hounding me about Disney, just realized that I had activated the service. (My younger daughter, who is more into musicals, has been busier singing in actual musicals, so hasn't noticed yet, but I'm going to tell her when she has a friend over Friday). Anyway, the first thing my older teen gravitated tower is "Phineas & Ferb," which I totally forgot was a Disney property. That show is so great, and I love that it's not Marvel or Star Wars or even Disney/Pixar she wants but Phineas and Ferb. That and "High School Musical, The Musical, The Series," which is the real title.

lol The first episode she watched was the one where the mad scientist devises a ray that makes people see aliens so he can pretend to be king of the aliens and take over city hall, but when he does so he gets lost in the weeds arguing about 401k plans and medical benefits.

dang, high school musical branching out!

Yes, into ... musicals.

It sounds like something from BoJack

to be clear, just in case, that's the description of the Ferb episode, though I wish that is what High School Musical was about. Though it might work for Riverdale.

Phineas and Ferb rules. If Wander Over Yonder is on D+, your kids will love it.

I don't know that one, but the fact that it is literally a Disney show but not on Disney+ - and in fact I came across a petition to get in on Disney+ - is another thing to slot in the "Disney sucks" column.

I have no doubt they're going to be rotating out their content. Vaulting it, if you will.

What's the point of having their own channel then?

is that rhetorical?

the idea is people will sign up for all the exclusive stuff that will, in good time, be totally D+ exclusive and never available anywhere, but you don't get all of it at once so that you get that general sense of "ooh new stuff being added" that keeps you from unsubscribing

I mean, slowly yank content from the service as long as they're still maintaining or growing a subscriber base. As soon as it flatlines: "Welcome to Beauty & The Beast month on Disney+! We're bringing back all your favorite B&tB content along with two exclusive interview specials!"

They've made mad bank for decades fomenting artificial scarcity. They aren't about to stop now.

Like did you guys know The Black Hole has finally been released on Blu-ray? Oh, but only to Disney Movie Club members, sorry proles.

Weren't Disney DVDs of their big movies only available for a limited time? xp

And on VHS before that!

While it would not surprise me, it would, well, surprise me if Disney+, which was created as an exclusive subscription home for Marvel, Disney, Pixar, etc., started taking their own stuff out of circulation from their exclusive subscription service to create a sense of artificial scarcity to get people to ... subscribe to its exclusive service?

Yeah, that's still the case for their core of old-school animated classics. They're at least only vaulting shit for a couple of years now but it's still stupid as hell. And I say that as someone who owns those old-school classics and has no personal reason to grouse.

Like, it seems as unlikely to me that they would ever take off, say, "Star Wars" or "The Little Mermaid" as it does that they would withhold a cartoon I've never heard of as an incentive for people to subscribe in the future.

Not to mention that they've had some sort of falling out with at least Amazon and possibly other retailers so that being a DMC member is about the only easy/affordable way to buy some of their stuff.

Despite having affection for some of their output, never let it be said that I don't hold the corporate entity in utter contempt.

If Netflix started vaulting content I think people would flip out.

Exactly, because it's ... why people subscribe to Netflix! If Disney already has exclusive content, and has it locked down, then why would they remove it?

the disney vault is a tactic they have used forever

designing scarcity of their IP for commercial reasons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ1zXTIUYzc

Also, Netflix is constantly rotating out content. All of the streaming services do it. I don't know why Disney+ would be any different. Their original programming will probably stay put but I wouldn't count on anything else.

Because Disney owns everything on their channel, but Netflix and Amazon and Criterion and so on are essentially leasing/borrowing most of their content.

But again, I cannot conceive of Disney taking a beloved property like "Frozen" offline just so that they can announce "'Frozen' is coming back to Disney+!" Maybe in the distant future, perhaps.

Per the above, it would be like Netflix taking away "Stranger Things." Why would they do that? I understand the concept of artificial scarcity, but this is a subscription model; they already have our money on an ongoing basis. It's built in to the model, unlike selling a videotape, which is a one and done deal.

because they'll go through a fallow period like the mid-90s pre-Pixar acquisition and their main value proposition will be remastering and re-releasing old faves or whatever the new cynical business pitch is

I mean, that's if they're relatively pragmatic. It's not really in the interest of publicly-held companies to imply that they have anything less than an infinite growth model right now, regardless of industry. And it not growth, then trimming of expenses

xpost Nah, as I mention, I'd expect them to adopt the Netflix model and keep all of the stuff created specifically for the services.

Look, I know this doesn't make sense. I agree with you. I'm just saying that there's scads of precedent suggesting what they'll likely do and I'll be way more surprised if they do just make everything available in perpetuity.

I think what they're far more likely to do is just keep jacking up prices, which is a much better extortion scheme. "We have your beloved Mermaid, now pay up!"

If Netflix wanted to test out vaulting, they have the perfect show to try it with: House of Cards.

"Vaulting" before was to make you buy the object quick so you could play it over and over in the future... is there a Blu-ray promotion aspect to Disney+, yet? The streaming equivalent is already in effect, it's built in..... Pay the monthly toll or else you can't watch Frozen every day.

Extras and stuff could be "cool" limited time features ("beauty and the beast month!")

what Josh said

FYI, Disney+ only allows 50 items in your watchlist, so don't try to add more than that. You won't be notified that you're removing stuff from the bottom of your list.

due to the general limited availability of the company's golden era of hand-drawn animation material (which is really all I'm interested in), I signed up for a trial of Disney+. They do have a lot, but it doesn't look like it comes close to everything and it's organized in a really weird way. For example, if you search for Goofy or Donald, it won't turn up all the shorts that they appear in - and the collection of shorts they do have are not complete either. Still, looks like all the feature films are there, which is great, and the shorts they do have are fantastic.

I searched for Donald Duck yesterday, myself

so there's stuff that didn't show up because they've tagged it poorly? that's good, because... I need more Donald

FYI, Disney+ only allows 50 items in your watchlist, so don't try to add more than that. You won't be notified that you're removing stuff from the bottom of your list.

I generally try to be forgiving about clunky interface stuff when things like this first launch, but LOL that is super fucking dumb.

speaking as someone with 194 films in their Kanopy watchlist, and a five-item-a-month viewing limit, getting through <49 TV series at a time before adding another >49 is probably a sensible piece of guided user design

betting that not telling the user about the limit was a different person's decision

yeah but what do they care what % of your watchlist you actually get through or if youre watching things in a sensible orderly fashion, just as long as youre continuously watching a steady diet of High Quality Disney Content? Its a feature that can only be experienced as an inconvenience.

If anything I'd think theyd want to encourage watchlist-bloat to make people think theyre getting more out of the service than they are. ("how can I cancel when I've still got 375 wonderful items of Disney Content queued up & waiting to delight me?")

Please tell me that the classic Muppet Show is on here and it's just another weird search error, because all I can find is nu Muppets.

Please. They never even finished releasing the series on DVD, and a good number of bits were excised even then. Pretty sure it's in music rights limbo.