nonbinary gender pronouns

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Iceland came up with an official patronym for nonbinary folks this year (-bur):

https://www.icelandreview.com/news/icelandic-names-will-no-longer-be-gendered/

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 18 November 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

so parents still have to petition to give a girl a "boy" name and vice versa unless they identify the child as gender-neutral? weird progressive/regressive juxtaposition there.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 18 November 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

No, all first names are available to everyone now irrespective of gender "claimed" on birth certificate, but your choice on your birth certificate determines the suffix you must use for your surname (-son, -dottir, or -bur).

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 18 November 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link

"Nibling" is an ungendered niece/nephew child-of-siblings word.

I feel like it's a significant enough thing to have a non-gendered term for, but Nibling makes me think of gifs of cute rodents eating carrots, or cute rodents eating carrots in Viking helmets singing Wagner

sarahell, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

Family words are so confusing for me — tbh I wish we could all just go by our first names instead of foregrounding the family relation. Pronouns are necessary syntactically but to constantly refer to someone as their familial relation is different and not syntactically necessary.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2019/12/05/teens-argentina-are-leading-charge-gender-neutral-language/

In Spanish, a language in which all nouns are assigned a gender, the word for soldiers is masculine: “Los soldados de Perón.”

The lyrics Mira sang were different: “Les soldades.”

To most Spanish speakers, the “e” in both words would sound jarring — and grammatically incorrect.

But here, teenagers are rewriting the rules of the language to eliminate gender. In classrooms and daily conversations, young people are changing the way they speak and write — replacing the masculine “o” or the feminine “a” with the gender-neutral “e” in certain words — in order to change what they see as a deeply gendered culture.

j., Friday, 6 December 2019 06:30 (four years ago) link

this whole entry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Universal_Friend

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n13/amia-srinivasan/he-she-one-they-ho-hus-hum-ita

Ethics requires that we embrace a practice of naming that makes people’s passage through the world more bearable. But ethics is not exhausted by such a practice. A true ethical relation requires that we see the other, just as we see ourselves, as ultimately beyond names and categories: not because (as liberals like to say) we are ‘all human’ or ‘all persons’, but because each of us exists, finally, beyond the reach of mere words. We all know this instinctively in our own case: that feeling of exceeding, bursting beyond, all the words that can be truly applied to us. What does it take for us recognise that this is true, too, of everyone else: of him and her, of them, of you?

j., Monday, 29 June 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

Reading this now..

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 June 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

is this ... meta-woke?

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 29 June 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

It's a very good essay on language and politics and better than Sharkey's concern trolling.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 09:18 (three years ago) link

I was just kidding, it seemed like an overreach to start with pronouns and blast through to “why is language dealing with the ineffable anyway?” Spose I’d better read it now.

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 09:49 (three years ago) link


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