taylor swift iridescent smoke bombs thread 2019 - lover

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acts coming to stadiums around here:

Luke Combs
Tool
Harry Styles
Cher
Chance the Rapper
The Misfits (!)
Billie Eilish
Celine Dion
Trans-Siberian Orchestra
The Lumineers
Camilla Cabello
Black Crowes
Kenny Chesney

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 18 November 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

stadiums or arenas?

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 18 November 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

I dunno. Whatever Wells Fargo Center is.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 18 November 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link

And Lincoln Financial Field

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 18 November 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

first is an arena, second's a stadium

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 18 November 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

Stadiums are for summer tours, like Taylor Swift or the Stones or Kenny Chesney's "Chillaxification Tour."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 November 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

Enclosed Stadiums are still a thing.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 November 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link

For sure. But acts touring stadiums I presume aren't going to go on a big stadium tour and just skip the cities that don't have enclosed stadiums. I'm not sure I've heard of any act going on a winter stadium tour, but I could be wrong!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 November 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

They also get to play castles over here in the UK.

groovypanda, Monday, 18 November 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

I just had a mental vision of Taylor Swift doing a gig in an inflatable play castle. It would work!

Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 18 November 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

Ah, that's more of a Katy Perry thing.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 November 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link

"She's hosting several A-listers at her Rhode Island mansion for the Fourth Of July weekend.

And Taylor Swift has pulled out all the stops to ensure her celebrity guests have a holiday they'll never forget.

The 26-year-old has transformed her $17.75million home into the ultimate party paradise, with a huge red, white and blue inflatable slide installed next to her swimming pool, complete with mats to zoom down it on."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 November 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

Self XPS Of course, Katy Perry wishes she could sellout a bouncy castle these days.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 November 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

TS has the inflatable slide market LOCKED DOWN.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 November 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link

i like inflatable slides too! omg she's so relatable

imago, Monday, 18 November 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

if you have a slide *and* you have a pool, shouldn’t one land in the other? this seems like bad feng shui.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 18 November 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

Worth noting (or maybe not) that quote was from 2015, and she apparently stopped those parties after 2016.

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Monday, 18 November 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link

With her dwindling sales and popularity she's got to watch her budget, no more spendthrift inflatable pool slide rentals.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 November 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link

US arenas generally have to book about six to twelve months in advance and the amount of money involved in a tour is so much that it doesn't happen unless everyone involved understands the ROI is gonna justify it that far out... that said, i'm certainly noticing an influx of comparatively younger acts graduating quickly to arena status (on the east coast at least) to better/faster capitalize on immediate success.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link

TS has the inflatable slide market LOCKED DOWN.

― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain

Those chairs are too close to the end, though

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

a good test for new york (which is a skewed market anyway because of industry) might be to see how many acts went from playing the main building to whatever they're calling the former felt forum space now (the theater at msg i believe).

maura, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link

the hulu theater iirc

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

The Carlyle Group Theater at ScooterBraunLive!

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

i only see artisanal artists in living room btw

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

a good test for new york (which is a skewed market anyway because of industry) might be to see how many acts went from playing the main building to whatever they're calling the former felt forum space now (the theater at msg i believe).

i believe the new york knicks will soon be moving into the smaller space.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

How are their record sales?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link

not nearly as good as the portland trail blazers' record sales, iirc

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

ts: Dame DOLLA vs JD & The Straight Shot

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link

Grammys: Lack of "Lover" Noms Deemed Snub

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

(do u like my stab at headline writing)

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

Lol at that article. I didn’t know Bob Iver has lost his ‘cred ‘when collaborator Kanye West started making gospel music.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link

"lover" for song of the year is a cool nom, when that song catches me in the right headspace it's fairly great

big wtf at "you need to calm down" being nominated for anything much less pop solo performance

dyl, Thursday, 21 November 2019 08:13 (four years ago) link

I wish Paul Westerberg did a cover version of "Lover"

cpl593H, Thursday, 21 November 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

Braun writes a public letter to Swift, highlighting threats against his family. (Taylor hasn’t spoken publicly since her “Don’t know what else to do” tweet).

https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/dthreat.jpg

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Friday, 22 November 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

damn, scooter better strap up

J0rdan S., Friday, 22 November 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

So did they get this sorted, or...?

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 25 November 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

I kinda think Scooter is right, that this has more to do with advertising the re-recordings of the earlier albums than it has any kind of agreement that could be made.

Frederik B, Monday, 25 November 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

The whole thing is so crazy at this point. No matter what is at the core of this agreement, where surely Taylor is in the right, sending a mob of fans after enemies, then staying silent as it devolves into closed offices and death threats, is so beyond defensible. It's abhorrent behaviour. And nobody speaks up about it? Are people afraid that they'll get death threats as well? Or not able to handle more than one villain at a time?

Frederik B, Monday, 25 November 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

She performed her old songs at the AMAs last night, so guess she prevailed on that piece at least. Her Twitter feed has moved on, nothing more said about the negotiations.

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Monday, 25 November 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link

I don't think anyone ever could explain how she was supposed to be prohibited from performing her old songs. That's not up to whoever owns the masters to decide, I think.

Frederik B, Monday, 25 November 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

it was more a matter of whether recording the live performance would break the contract that allows her to begin re-recording the old songs a year from now

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 25 November 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

But is that a thing as well? Because presumably a lot of artists, who has been on more than one label, do televised/streamed live performances.

Frederik B, Monday, 25 November 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

Who knows what Scooter and his lawyers are up to, but would they have had a leg to stand on legally?

Frederik B, Monday, 25 November 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

Big Machine has been saying no, both in their earlier statement and Scooter's "public letter":

As the world now knows you can and should perform any song you would like at the AMAs. I have never and would never say otherwise. You do not need anyone’s permission to do so legally but I am stating it here clearly and publicly so there is no more debate or confusion.

...but maybe they were originally trying to pull something else.

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Monday, 25 November 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

It's not like I trust a guy named Scooter, lol :) I just don't get the legal aspect.

Frederik B, Monday, 25 November 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

There is something in the contract which allows Taylor to start re-recording her old songs sometime in 2020. But if she does so before that date she loses the right to do so in the future. I think the fight was over whether Big Machine would claim that if Taylor’s performance showed up anywhere other than the live broadcast it would be a breach of the contract. That’s why their statements kept emphasizing that they could not prevent her from performing old songs in a live setting.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 25 November 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmT4Y8w1nho

song is made somehow even more gorgeous here

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

Wow, that is a lovely remix.

I was at a holiday street fair last weekend, and a girl with a gtr & microphone was absolutely murdering this song (like, in a bad way).

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link


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