2020 Democratic presidential primary

Why would corporate health care lobbyism thrive in the US and not nearly as much in other nations?

― Van Horn Street, Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:10 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

covered at length here: https://smile.amazon.com/American-Sickness-Healthcare-Became-Business/dp/1594206759

I'm no longer supporting Bernie Sanders. I'm now #TeamPete and if you got a problem with that you can unfollow. pic.twitter.com/1k6Me3oy7a

— yellow vest america 🦺 (@america_vest) November 18, 2019

Raises a couple of interesting points I hadn't considered

actually really persuasive, thx 4 posting

lool

actually i've changed my mind, mayo pete is cancelled again

Amusingly I've even gotten correspondence from someone arguing that Pete's claim to have been a country boy who had never seen "exposed brick" until he went to Harvard is a lie, because he grew up with it in his house. I really hope this becomes the scandal that undoes him. pic.twitter.com/GHdGgT3yKA

— Nathan J Robinson (@NathanJRobinson) November 17, 2019

Mayor Pete gets more and more interesting.

lol the brick wall was probably covered up his dad's bookshelves full of Marxist texts

Boy and I was hoping the scandal that would unravel the Buttigieg campaign would be an article he wrote as a high schooler that'd reveal he actually DID know who Alfred E. Neuman was years ago.

Pete more of a Sylvester P. Smythe guy

Biden says he won't legalize marijuana because it may be a "gateway drug" https://t.co/OrnFYpGw8E pic.twitter.com/8Mm70gAS1O

— The Hill (@thehill) November 18, 2019

Sorry didn’t see it was talked about upthread

he's very good at what he does

Andrew Yang tweets a lot of Andrew Yang tweets.

This is the Andrew Yangiest tweet I can recall. https://t.co/Bfoic1IdL0

— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) November 18, 2019

yang dank?

thought that was a still of tom hulce conducting in amadeus for a second

I do hope we avoid a scenario where there's basically three candidates with 30% of delegates apiece, none of whom are willing to drop out. and then we end up with some kind of brokered convention that leaves a weakened candidate and an embittered/divided party.

I'd like that very scenario, but with poisonings

but with poisonings

you go first

covered at length here: https://smile.amazon.com/American-Sickness-Healthcare-Became-Business/dp/1594206759

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, November 17, 2019 11:20 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

thank you!

and thanks Aimless for the discussion, will try to be less abrasive in the future.

Ha.

Buttigieg Campaign Appeals To Moderate Republicans By Touting Low Approval Among Black Voters

SOUTH BEND, IN—In an effort to unite disparate groups of white Americans, the Pete Buttigieg campaign released a new series of ads Monday appealing to moderate Republicans by touting the candidate’s low approval rate among black voters. “We hope that any Republican who finds Trump beyond the pale will turn to our campaign and see just how few black supporters we have,” said Buttigieg of the 30-second TV spot, which featured polling data illustrating how poorly he tracks in urban areas and showed footage of him refusing to shake hands with black voters. “Whether you’re more of a centrist white person or a fiscally conservative one, all whites have a home in the Buttigieg campaign. You can rest assured knowing that we’ve received no endorsement from the NAACP or any minority organizations. For the most part, black voters don’t even know who I am. And if they do know me, they don’t care for me.” At press time, the Buttigieg campaign released a new policy proposal emphasizing how his presidency would benefit every rich white person.

god the onion sucks now. even more soulless and focus-grouped than buttigieg 2020 imo

Yang above Harris in SC. And Steyer’s almost 50 million in ad buys are having *some* effect. https://t.co/c3oQXFapkD

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) November 18, 2019

i know we're still a few months out from actual votes, but Harris has to make a tremendous leap if she wants to have any kind of a shot.

SC is where Harris was counting on making her big move up the list. If Yang is surpassing her in SC, Harris is confirmed as being just as played out as she has appeared to be over the past two or three months.

she can't make that play until Biden craters in IA and NH, at which point she's hoping his black support will evaporate

yeah i don't think that dog is going to hunt. Obama won Iowa in 2008 and performed well in NH and Nevada, signalling he was legit. I'm not sure how much good it's going to do Harris for Biden to shit the bed if she finishes in the single digits herself.

no argument there

Buttigieg Campaign Appeals To Moderate Republicans By Touting Low Approval Among Black Voters

Onion headline, right?

lol never mind

Booker was on the Wendy Williams show today. I still won't vote for him in the primary, but he came across almost human.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbvXXvB-qG4

Pete more of a Sylvester P. Smythe guy

so otm, the mayo-pale ethnically whitewashed simulacrum without any anger or commitment

Please watch in horror as Pete praises the Tea Party. These people threatened my life and my boss, A United States Senator's life every week. I had Federal Protective Service men follow me home during the Affordable Care Act.

Enough.

I am not a @PeteButtigieg Democrat. pic.twitter.com/UVhyEsav1M

— Florida Chris (@chrislongview) November 19, 2019

idk man Bernie spoke at Liberty University when he was running against HRC and made a similar "we can find common ground" argument

I'm done with these stupid bad takes. He doesn't praise the fucking Tea Party in that video

LU (like doing the Fox News townhall) I can at least see a reasonable demographic/reach angle for. What looks like a relatively small Tea Party event, not so much.

The idea that any politician that refuses to spit on their ideological enemies = you're off the train...

Well you ain't ever gonna get anywhere. If ya wanna argue that he shouldn't have met with them, fine.

But criticize him for that, not him being mildly polite to opponents.

And i ain't even a Buttigieg stan

the tea party weren't exactly just "opponents" in their behavior tho

I remember, thank you very much.

This was also nine years ago (the video).

When the Dems were still trying to make in-roads everywhere. They hadn't quite realized the pointless nature of it yet.

Cool, Mayor Pete is now cancelled for a 20 second clip that some Twitter idiot fiund from nine years ago that isn't all that problematic to begin with.

Straight up outrage peddling during an election usually requires careful scrutiny.

He's cancelled for a lot of reasons, this does speak to character tho imo

Gabrielle Giffords hadn't even been shot yet when that vid had been made

He can be cancelled for whatever, but that twenty second tweet means dick

We are beginning to adopt absolutisms like Republicans. In some cases (fascism, Nazis), that's warranted.

Not shit like this

Yeah, it's standard-issue Obama-era good-faith outreach. Dude was running for state treasurer.

The video was also described and linked to in NYT article published nearly a month ago, and no one cared about it until today.

like Republicans. In some cases (fascism, Nazis), that's warranted.

... so the Tea Party

It's almost quaint that Deval Patrick thought the Democratic race was begging for someone to fly the flag for private equity companies and shrug at inequality.

lol @ this shit-stirring. when the opposition tells you which candidate they favor...

Key Senate Republicans say they can see themselves working with Joe Biden if he is elected president, bolstering the centrist Democratic candidate's claims that he would be able to break through legislative gridlock in Washington.

As the former vice president has slipped in some polls compared to liberal firebrand Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), he has emphasized his track record working with Republican colleagues to pass bipartisan legislation...

But key Senate Republicans say they feel more optimistic about working with him compared to other Democratic presidential candidates.

“I think Joe Biden has the ability to work across party lines, absolutely I do,” said Graham, the Senate Judiciary Committee chairman who was one of the authors of the bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill the Senate passed in 2013 but that later died in the House.

Graham said he’s not so sure whether Warren or Sanders would be as effective.

“I don’t know,” he said when asked about the chances of compromise with Warren and Sanders. “That’s going to be the challenge of the next president, whoever they are. Biden’s track record is real.”

Graham also expressed his warm regard for Biden, which is shared by a variety of Republicans who worked with him on Capitol Hill.

“I very much like Joe Biden. I think he’s one of the most decent people I’ve ever met. He suffered tremendous tragedy,” Graham added, referring to the death of Biden’s then-wife and 13-month-old daughter in a 1972 car accident and the 2015 death of his son Beau at age 46 of cancer.

Graham said he’s “all in for Trump” but could see working with Biden “on a lot of things” if he winds up in the White House in 2021.

Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee Chairman Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), a key moderate who voted with Democrats against repealing ObamaCare in 2017, said she also sees Biden as someone who could work effectively with Republicans.

“Think about some of the initiatives Biden has worked with, whether it’s Leader McConnell or just worked on a bipartisan basis. The fact that he has legislative, congressional experience and had to work in a legislative body and then worked with President Obama as one within the administration working with a legislative body does give him a level of experience that’s useful,” Murkowski said.

Murkowski made reference to three of Biden’s biggest accomplishments as vice president, when he worked with McConnell to extend expiring tax cuts after the 2010 midterm elections, raise the debt limit in the summer of 2011 and avoid the so-called fiscal cliff at the end of 2012.

Biden also played a key role in recruiting three moderate Republicans, Sens. Susan Collins (Maine) and then-Sens. Olympia Snowe (Maine) and Arlen Specter (Pa.), to support the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, which stimulated the economy after the 2008 financial crisis.

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) cited Biden’s talks with McConnell at the end of 2012 to avoid the fiscal cliff.

“He did very definitely make a breakthrough. He and McConnell more or less negotiated not having a shutdown of government that year. And then you know what? The Democrats didn’t like him doing it and Obama didn’t let him do it anymore. So yes, he does have a track record,” Grassley said.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), an adviser to the Senate GOP leadership who served with Biden on the Judiciary Committee, said Biden “has that experience” and “everybody who’s worked around Joe Biden has liked him.”

Biden 2020: The Democrats didn’t like him doing it and Obama didn’t let him do it anymore.

I guess that settles it. Why would any of those Republicans be lying?

The gross thing is how many Democrats will repeat those homilies approvingly.

lol fuck “working with” these chumps. think that lesson’s finally sunk in.