2020 Democratic presidential primary

has he ever been naked

the problem is that he doesn't have an ear hair issue. he's very well groomed, tbh, and photogenic. it's hard to find a bad photo of him (although part of that is google image search and how it's unintentionally (?) steering us toward a path of glossy/ideal life images as models, rather than real life). you gotta search for a while to come across anything that's more than just a poor photo.

but in constrast, for instance, type in louie gohmert and you're immediately confronted with pages of

https://i.imgur.com/JplkYxr.jpg

has he ever been naked

your imagination is blindered, no doubt unconsciously

Still believe that the large democratic segregationist base would have never allowed for a free health care given to black people and since they had so much power it worked.

All the more reason to be dubious of incrementalism then

Still believe that the large democratic segregationist base would have never allowed for a free health care given to black people and since they had so much power it worked.

Social Security and Medicare also cover black people - that's the thing about universal programs, they undermine the divisions that can otherwise be exploited.

Whereas welfare/Obamacare subsidies/etc. are only given to 'those people'

Yeah and I said upthread that this is the big mistake centrists are making, not seeing the potential for m4a to unite people are locked in polarization. I am for all implementing single payer health care within first year of the next dem presidency, but when you see that Warren/Sanders can't combine 60% of the democratic base which in turn represents, what? 40% of the voting population? I have a hard time being optimistic it will have enough popular support to happen this asap.

Warren/Sanders can't combine 60% of the democratic base which in turn represents, what? 40% of the voting population?

That is such a weirdly compartmentalized way to view the current race. Both Warren and Sanders currently lead Trump in polls which place them in direct competition.

Lol

Biden says he won't legalize marijuana because it may be a 'gateway drug'

that should help him win over some young whippersnappers

he really is running for president in 1996. and by golly i think he's gonna beat the pants off bob dole.

He said he won't legalize it federally but will let states do whatever. He stepped on a rake with the dumb grandpa "gateway drug" thing though.

Even if the federal govt legalized weed, wouldn't states, counties and cities make their own laws anyway? I mean, alcohol is legal federally but I live in a dry county.

It is a gateway...to a dope ass time amirite

That is such a weirdly compartmentalized way to view the current race. Both Warren and Sanders currently lead Trump in polls which place them in direct competition.

― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:12 PM (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Present Biden voters would perhaps vote for Sanders/Warren over Trump, but that doesn’t mean they support universal health care.

Most of Biden's voters already have universal care via Medicare

Why would corporate health care lobbyism thrive in the US and not nearly as much in other nations?

― Van Horn Street, Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:10 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

covered at length here: https://smile.amazon.com/American-Sickness-Healthcare-Became-Business/dp/1594206759

I'm no longer supporting Bernie Sanders. I'm now #TeamPete and if you got a problem with that you can unfollow. pic.twitter.com/1k6Me3oy7a

— yellow vest america 🦺 (@america_vest) November 18, 2019

Raises a couple of interesting points I hadn't considered

actually really persuasive, thx 4 posting

lool

actually i've changed my mind, mayo pete is cancelled again

Amusingly I've even gotten correspondence from someone arguing that Pete's claim to have been a country boy who had never seen "exposed brick" until he went to Harvard is a lie, because he grew up with it in his house. I really hope this becomes the scandal that undoes him. pic.twitter.com/GHdGgT3yKA

— Nathan J Robinson (@NathanJRobinson) November 17, 2019

Mayor Pete gets more and more interesting.

lol the brick wall was probably covered up his dad's bookshelves full of Marxist texts

Boy and I was hoping the scandal that would unravel the Buttigieg campaign would be an article he wrote as a high schooler that'd reveal he actually DID know who Alfred E. Neuman was years ago.

Pete more of a Sylvester P. Smythe guy

Biden says he won't legalize marijuana because it may be a "gateway drug" https://t.co/OrnFYpGw8E pic.twitter.com/8Mm70gAS1O

— The Hill (@thehill) November 18, 2019

Sorry didn’t see it was talked about upthread

he's very good at what he does

Andrew Yang tweets a lot of Andrew Yang tweets.

This is the Andrew Yangiest tweet I can recall. https://t.co/Bfoic1IdL0

— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) November 18, 2019

yang dank?

thought that was a still of tom hulce conducting in amadeus for a second

I do hope we avoid a scenario where there's basically three candidates with 30% of delegates apiece, none of whom are willing to drop out. and then we end up with some kind of brokered convention that leaves a weakened candidate and an embittered/divided party.

I'd like that very scenario, but with poisonings

but with poisonings

you go first

covered at length here: https://smile.amazon.com/American-Sickness-Healthcare-Became-Business/dp/1594206759

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, November 17, 2019 11:20 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

thank you!

and thanks Aimless for the discussion, will try to be less abrasive in the future.

Ha.

Buttigieg Campaign Appeals To Moderate Republicans By Touting Low Approval Among Black Voters

SOUTH BEND, IN—In an effort to unite disparate groups of white Americans, the Pete Buttigieg campaign released a new series of ads Monday appealing to moderate Republicans by touting the candidate’s low approval rate among black voters. “We hope that any Republican who finds Trump beyond the pale will turn to our campaign and see just how few black supporters we have,” said Buttigieg of the 30-second TV spot, which featured polling data illustrating how poorly he tracks in urban areas and showed footage of him refusing to shake hands with black voters. “Whether you’re more of a centrist white person or a fiscally conservative one, all whites have a home in the Buttigieg campaign. You can rest assured knowing that we’ve received no endorsement from the NAACP or any minority organizations. For the most part, black voters don’t even know who I am. And if they do know me, they don’t care for me.” At press time, the Buttigieg campaign released a new policy proposal emphasizing how his presidency would benefit every rich white person.

god the onion sucks now. even more soulless and focus-grouped than buttigieg 2020 imo

Yang above Harris in SC. And Steyer’s almost 50 million in ad buys are having *some* effect. https://t.co/c3oQXFapkD

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) November 18, 2019

i know we're still a few months out from actual votes, but Harris has to make a tremendous leap if she wants to have any kind of a shot.

SC is where Harris was counting on making her big move up the list. If Yang is surpassing her in SC, Harris is confirmed as being just as played out as she has appeared to be over the past two or three months.

she can't make that play until Biden craters in IA and NH, at which point she's hoping his black support will evaporate

yeah i don't think that dog is going to hunt. Obama won Iowa in 2008 and performed well in NH and Nevada, signalling he was legit. I'm not sure how much good it's going to do Harris for Biden to shit the bed if she finishes in the single digits herself.

no argument there

Buttigieg Campaign Appeals To Moderate Republicans By Touting Low Approval Among Black Voters

Onion headline, right?

lol never mind

Booker was on the Wendy Williams show today. I still won't vote for him in the primary, but he came across almost human.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbvXXvB-qG4

Pete more of a Sylvester P. Smythe guy

so otm, the mayo-pale ethnically whitewashed simulacrum without any anger or commitment

Please watch in horror as Pete praises the Tea Party. These people threatened my life and my boss, A United States Senator's life every week. I had Federal Protective Service men follow me home during the Affordable Care Act.

Enough.

I am not a @PeteButtigieg Democrat. pic.twitter.com/UVhyEsav1M

— Florida Chris (@chrislongview) November 19, 2019

idk man Bernie spoke at Liberty University when he was running against HRC and made a similar "we can find common ground" argument

I'm done with these stupid bad takes. He doesn't praise the fucking Tea Party in that video

LU (like doing the Fox News townhall) I can at least see a reasonable demographic/reach angle for. What looks like a relatively small Tea Party event, not so much.

The idea that any politician that refuses to spit on their ideological enemies = you're off the train...

Well you ain't ever gonna get anywhere. If ya wanna argue that he shouldn't have met with them, fine.

But criticize him for that, not him being mildly polite to opponents.

And i ain't even a Buttigieg stan