Literary Clusterfucks 2013

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I just wanna say I admire the pessimism of this thread title which seemed to conjecture there would be so many literary clusterfucks we'd need a new thread every year.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 17 November 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link

I would argue that it is optimism -- that we would be so on top of all the literary clusterfucks and have high-minded, thoughtful things to say about them, and also the optimism that national politics would not totally eclipse the literary in clusterfuckery

sarahell, Sunday, 17 November 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

We did spend much of the first week of impeachment hearings complaining about some YA authors though. Hope for the world after all.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link

*hi-fives ilx*

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

xp aimless oh yknow, when ppl hear of an apology theyve been clamoring for and start apology lawyering it as if it was genuine or as if there was a standard that could ever have been met that wouldve placated them, neither of which ever seem to be the case

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 18 November 2019 01:10 (four years ago) link

apologies should be delivered but never opened, the sum of the parts never total the whole, the apology that the villagers cut the goose open for turned out not to have been the source of infinite golden eggs

look i think ive been clear on this, and if not, im sorry if you feel that way

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 18 November 2019 01:13 (four years ago) link

public apologies are a fake idea anyway

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 18 November 2019 01:19 (four years ago) link

public anything

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 18 November 2019 01:20 (four years ago) link

the only people who should be concerned about an apology are the apologizer and apologized to. Onlookers have bugger all to do with it and may be safely ignored as irrelevant to the process.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 18 November 2019 03:17 (four years ago) link

No, sometimes a public apology is valuable to and appreciated by the wronged party.

Especially if the initial injury was a public one.

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 18 November 2019 03:29 (four years ago) link

Of course a public apology in lieu of a private one is probably insincere.

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 18 November 2019 03:36 (four years ago) link

I''d have said that if you publicly set the hounds on someone, you have to publicly call them off.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 November 2019 07:53 (four years ago) link

I’m sorry you feel that way darragh

sarahell, Monday, 18 November 2019 08:42 (four years ago) link

that analogy works more accurately applied to the opposite parties in the new dynamic

xp lol im sorry youre sorry if you feel that way

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 18 November 2019 08:43 (four years ago) link

I’m sorry you had to see that

sarahell, Monday, 18 November 2019 08:46 (four years ago) link

having spoken to my wife and sponsors, i can now see the error of my ways and i promise to do better

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 18 November 2019 08:50 (four years ago) link

Every apology is self-interested therefore true altruism is to not apologize at all.

pomenitul, Monday, 18 November 2019 10:26 (four years ago) link

yes

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 18 November 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

by that reasoning, true altruism is killing yourself quietly in the grave you thoughtfully dug for yourself ahead of time.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 18 November 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

How dare this written-for-hire sequel to a sequel to a sequel of a novelisation of a card game be badly written?

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 10:35 (four years ago) link

This is what gamer gate was about I guess

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/very-online-sarah-dessen-social-media-controversy

'“Many authors consider their writing to be political and use social media to discuss their views and opinions,” cultural critic and digital strategist Ella Dawson says.'

lol pwned by a digital strategist

j., Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

The author is just asking to be put to death again.

pomenitul, Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

another case of "people don't really need to have this explained to them, do they?" vs. "so many people are super fucking stupid."

sarahell, Saturday, 23 November 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.themarysue.com/romance-writers-author-courtney-milan-rwa-ruling/

j., Friday, 27 December 2019 04:39 (four years ago) link

Sometimes I like to think about how Nathaniel Hawthorne lived next door to Louisa May Alcott and was a petty whiny little bitch about her success until the end

— rachel syme (@rachsyme) January 2, 2020

j., Friday, 3 January 2020 06:04 (four years ago) link

i hate twitter

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 3 January 2020 12:44 (four years ago) link

ya done goofed nathaniel my boy

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 3 January 2020 12:45 (four years ago) link

Now wait a second...

nobody loves the scarlet letter my guy! You done goofed

— rachel syme (@rachsyme) January 2, 2020

jmm, Friday, 3 January 2020 12:46 (four years ago) link

Young Incel Brown

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 3 January 2020 13:19 (four years ago) link

its about time someone was brave enough to take him down a few pegs. i'm sick of the army of all these House of the Seven Gables fanboys clogging up my TL all day every day

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Friday, 3 January 2020 15:05 (four years ago) link

Finally, a voice of sanity on the RWA clusterfuck

enjoy new no sex tingler NOT POUNDED BY ROMANCE WRANGLERS OF AMERICA BECAUSE THEIR NEW LEADERSHIP IS FROM THE DEPTHS OF THE ENDLESS COSMIC VOID out now https://t.co/rT0bh3B6K6 pic.twitter.com/EPDAQX9Agn

— Chuck Tingle (@ChuckTingle) January 3, 2020

it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Friday, 3 January 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link

I think I'm would-be-woke-American-genre-fiction-debacle'd out.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link

"This is akin to putting a neo-Nazi in charge of a UN human rights committee," she wrote

lmao astonishing

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link

it's true that neo-Nazis spend most of their time calling out other people's racism

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

good thing they never put horrible human rights abusers in charge of UN human rights committees amirite

Mordy, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

do we start a new thread when we hit 2,014 clusterfucks?

rob, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link

feels like we're close

rob, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link

I appreciate that the story about a genre fiction scandal is being reported by an organ whose name sounds like a genre fiction scandal

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:08 (four years ago) link

omg wins

imago, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:09 (four years ago) link

lmao

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link

Good on Nora Roberts though.

☮️ (peace, man), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link

No longer a member of Romance Writers of America, the best-selling writer said that she became disillusioned in 2005, when top leaders drafted a statement defining romance as between a man and a woman

bigotry is not funny, but the use of 'romance' throughout that article as if the RWA is legislating romance itself is kind of lol

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link

better than the SFWA, which defines Science as "a thing girls don't like."

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:54 (four years ago) link

? SFWA is currently headed by a woman and I'm had women among its founding members (Kate Wilhelm at the very least, iirc)

which is not to claim that SF wasn't a deeply sexist genre for decades but still

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 18:04 (four years ago) link

I'm

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 18:04 (four years ago) link

is joke aiui

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link

Nora Roberts's statement isn't totally accurate, but it was definitely a bad move from RWA.
https://allaboutromance.com/defining-romance-does-rwa-finally-have-it-right/

wasdnuos (abanana), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link


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