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Bingo. Middle-aged and older SF readers ALL seem to have started out with his juveniles, and nostalgia beats common sense any time. Less nostalgia in my case than dim, persistent memory of enjoyment; common sense would have to be applied in (unlikely) re-reading, if at all.

There isn't that much more tbh, a couple of novels and a few other stories and that's yer lot. Only if you don't check her bibliographies (spoiler: quite a few stories)(and the good 'uns aren't all in Her Smoke....)

Got xpost The Future is Female from the library today, started this evening: stately prose of first two selections in good contrast to reveals, esp. Leslie F. Stone's testimony/bed time story re matriarchal utopia vs. waves of capitalist barbarian male things from third planet: seems pretty wild for 1931 market (target audience?) Prev. read this in The Big Book of Science Fiction, still startling, with wicked zoom lens at times. Next up: C. L. MOORE: The Black God’s Kiss | 1934

It's on: Best book from the ads at the back of an old Bantam paperback of Crompton Divided

Amazed how often Japanese cover artists are famous manga or videogame artists.

C.L. Moore is maybe at her most pulpadelic, flexing the form and my head, spiraling sword and sorcery through Dark Ages scientific romance ov netherworld geometry and geography and trans-cosmological human and alien perceptual and emotional separation and convergence--also nonstop action. Joiry has fallen, and Jirel descends, willing to sell her soul rather than be sold into sexual slavery as prize ex-commander (spiritual adviser says she could be forgiven for the latter, never for the former, but she must have thee weapon).

Great description, Don. Read that one in a Best Of.

SF TV note:

Last night BBC1 started a new adaptation of THE WAR OF THE WORLDS. Oddly it mixed the invasion story with a domestic drama - I'm not sure where the latter comes from.

Then BBC4 re-screened a documentary about Ursula K. Le Guin. It affirmed her greatness and made me want to read her again. I especially enjoyed

a) the mid-1970s SF convention circuit, the sense of UKL amid all the others in the field
b) how glamorous she was as a young woman - many terrific photographs were glimpsed
c) David Mitchell a huge, eloquent fan
d) UKL apparently making waves with her 2014 lifetime achievement speech attacking Amazon and others, rather than going quietly.

> Oddly it mixed the invasion story with a domestic drama - I'm not sure where the latter comes from

HG Wells' personal life iirc from Front Row last week.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._G._Wells#Personal_life

Thanks Koogs - I wondered if it was something like that.

Perhaps better to draw from HGW's lie than to make it up randomly, but I still don't quite see the logic, and not sure it adds to this particular drama which is world-shattering enough already.

There is a general desire / need to put 'feisty women' into every historical narrative even where, in reality, the women might not have had such opportunities or even inclinations to be feisty ... but that's another discussion.

The WOTW series gets worse as it goes along.

Saw the Lost Transmissions book in Waterstones recently. I think I was aware of most of the topics but it does make for an interesting mix. Last night I listened to a panel interview about the book on Geek's Guide To The Galaxy podcast.

The editor/main author was fretting about people complaining that too many of the topics were too famous, but including them on the basis that many of the younger generations will not know them and some of the older fans will not know things less ingrained in older ideas of the genre.
Then ensued discussion of a sometimes puzzling reluctance of speculative fiction fans to claim things that originated outside the heartland.

The host made an interesting observation that many kids like him in the 70s-80s-90s had no real idea how popular their favorite things were. I would have thought magazines would give you some idea but I don't know how widely circulated they were or what their coverage was like.

There are hopes for a second book but if the small number of user reviews is anything to go by, it doesn't seem likely. It's pretty nice looking, I might get it this week.

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?89573
This lineup is crazy

http://scripsit.com/website/about-mapping-winter/

Marta Randall on her necessary remake of an older novel.

I think Phyllis Ann Karr and some other writers of this generation had done recent novel remakes too.

has anyone read ada palmer's too like the lightning, and does it become less insufferable than the first 20 pages is?

― The Pingularity (ledge), Wednesday, June 19, 2019 2:41 PM (five months ago)

objections: a grating 18th century prose style with frequent asides to the reader; copious chandleresque unexplained in-universe words and concepts; ridiculous names (martin guildbreaker, saneer-weeksbooth); frequent references to theology and theological concepts.

― The Pingularity (ledge), Wednesday, June 19, 2019 2:51 PM (five months ago)

She had donned her boots too, tall, taut Humanist boots patterned with a flowing brush-pen landscape, the kind with winding banks and misty mountains that the eye gets lost in. Any Humanist transforms, grows stronger, prouder, when they don the Hive boots which stamp each Member’s signature into the dust of history, but if others change from house cat to regal tiger, Thisbe becomes something more extreme...

kill me now

― The Pingularity (ledge), Wednesday, June 19, 2019 2:58 PM (five months ago)

It's funny, I was totally uninterested in this when it came out years ago, everyone was talking about it; but after seeing an enthusiastic review by Paul Di Filippo and seeing her buzz about her many interests (refreshing, since too many authors talk about the same shit everyone else does), I'd really like to read it sometime.

Tor announced recently that they are reprinting John M Ford's novels. This is after years and years of people complaining about a lack of reprints. It was widely believed that Ford's remaining family was hostile to his work and was preventing it from going back into print, but Will Shetterly was very eager to say this was a baseless myth.

Quite amused that the term "Killer Bs" (always referring to Benford, Bova, Brin, Baxter and Greg Bear) actually got used on a book cover at least once.

Another was "McMacs" for Ken Macleod, Ian McDonald, Ian Macleod, Paul McAuley and probably more.

McMacs >>> Killer Bs in overall quality terms, though Bova will drop any group's average quality

Lol. Feel like Bova did something good once, can’t remember. Maybe editing one of those SF Hall of Fame volumes.

AAAggghhh, Ligotti forum has been under maintenance for over a week.

https://slate.com/culture/2019/11/john-ford-science-fiction-fantasy-books.html

Cool

This Stan Lee-with-an-eyepatch Fantasy Masterworks edition of Dragon Waiting isn't too hard to source in the UK:

https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1173289687l/268437.jpg

It's a great book, too.

Thought this interview with Ada Palmer was a lot of fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMg92oT8lk4
Don't know why Crilly thought censorship was so new though.

It's news to me that the Laemmles showed interested in making a Clark Ashton Smith adaptation before they were booted from Universal. One of the stories Smith submitted to them for consideration has a giant made of melted corpses.

I wonder if there's any books which resemble the aesthetic of Voivod's Dimension Hatross or Skinny Puppy at their most scifi.

K.W. Jeter

Specifically Dr. Adder, Noir, Glass Hammer, Death Arms

this http://www.voivodfan.com/morgoth_bio_neutronboy2000.htm mentions a few books in passing (but is probably not what you want):

lord of the rings
dracula
neuromancer
dune
various French philosophers
don juan(?)

I have Doctor Adder somewhere in my room (for years I've been getting them mixed up with William Kotzwinkle's Doctor Rat). I might bump it up the pile a little but I feel I should read a bit more PK Dick before I do.

Quite interested to see how this plays out. Some people are worried.
https://www.blackgate.com/2019/11/30/the-chinese-worldcon-bid-for-2023-and-the-chengdu-conference-of-2019/

good piece about my local scene
https://thebolditalic.com/san-franciscos-sci-fi-renaissance-95713a91171c

Hard for my brain to see M. Luke McDonnell and not immediately think K.M. O'Donnell

only natural

I briefly wondered if it was a deliberate tribute/nom de plume but doesn't seem likely

Are you thinking of when Malzberg did that very thing?

well yes, I'm aware of the homage in Malzberg's nom de plume, was wondering if McDonnell's name was some elaborate meta-tribute

(evidently not, carry on...)

Baen has reached new lows of cover art, Poor Wen Spencer.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51D9jhfifmL.jpg

Maybe the nicest Baen cover I've seen for this new omnibus.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/519fuLiGM7L.jpg

it's wen's own fault for writing a book called "project elfhome"

ya think?

Not really. I like this funky cover to the first book.
http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/c/c6/TNKR2003.jpg

And this awesome Dune cover.
http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/6/6f/DNMWSDGMHP2015.jpg

For what it's worth, I've been hearing a lot of good about Nina Allan recently.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, May 21, 2017 8:57 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

I got The Rift in a charity shop but haven't started it yet. And some credible seeming people are claiming her recent work as masterpieces.

My outline for next year is:

- Finish all my WH Hodgson, Clark Ashton Smith, Lovecraft, Dunsany, Poe and RE Howard collections.
- As much SP Somtow and Tanith Lee as I can manage.
- A bit more of Fritz Leiber, Gene Wolfe, Sheridan Le Fanu, Nathaniel Hawthorne, Moorcock, Lucy Clifford, Justin Isis, Quentin S Crisp, Avalon Brantley, James Champagne, Jessica Amanda Salmonson and Arthur Machen.
- Finally read Dracula.
- Some foundational science fiction anthologies.
- Start Mervyn Peake, Alan Garner, ETA Hoffmann, Leigh Brackett, CL Moore, Patricia Mckillip, John Crowley, Attanasio, Piers Anthony, Jack L Chalker, David Zindell, Jack Williamson, Robert Silverberg, Roger Zelazny, Jean Ray, Jean Lorrain and Stefan Grabinski.
- Maybe Zachary Jernigan, PC Hodgell, Ricardo Pinto, Raphael Ordonez, Jeffrey E Barlough, Janrae Frank, Martha Wells, Adrian Cole, and Brian McNaughton.

If I manage even a quarter of that, it will be a personal breakthrough, but I have enough free time to do it.

wow, quite an ambitious program.

I've never passed 20 books in a year, so it's optimistic. A bit of Brian Stableford, Phyllis Ann Karr, Lucius Shepard, Avram Davidson and Greer Gilman would be nice too. I'm dying to read all of it, so the obligatory stuff I must finish can get frustrating.

speaking of Christopher Priest, has “The Discharge” (re)appeared in any readily accessible form?

Rift is very accept the mystery..., Picnic at Hanging Rock being an acknowledged influence.

https://lithub.com/the-encyclopedia-of-science-fiction-is-the-best-place-on-the-internet/

Also wanted to ask: okay The Rift but what about The Race?

I feel a little bit misled by this one. It was perfectly well written and interesting, but the blurb promised SF and greyhounds, two of my absolute favourite things. The book is structured almost as four novellas, and two of the novellas are not SF at all. In fact, most of the book was not SF and it only featured holistic amounts of greyhounds, hence the low rating.

If someone wants to write a near-future SF that actually focuses on enhanced greyhounds, then I would buy that like a shot. But this is not that book.