pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

yeah.

even so what is the connection between this guy and the current scene, as distinguished from other bedroom pop weirdos of the last 50 years (per the "weirdo king... decades prior")

You guys are absolute pedants and you sound like you're outside a Hot Topic screaming that Hawthorne Heights isn't punk

GenXers don't yell, we eyeroll

Jack Black definitely yells

Hawthorne Heights isn't punk

well they're not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

McCartney's home recorded solo debut: 1969,

lol

Casiotone for the Painfully Alone's first album came out in 1999.

― Οὖτις, Friday, November 15, 2019 3:59 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

now i can't tell if shakey is pedantic or just innumerate

Her full setlist included “Lover” and “The Man” from Lover, the title track from Love Story, “I Knew You Were Trouble” from Red as well as “Oh my God, look at That Face...” and “Shake It Off” from 1989.

Pretty sure the song is called “Blank Space.”

Btw — why was there no retrospective “Sunday review” today? I was looking forward to seeing how they rate Eddie Grant’s Killer on the Rampage, or whatever...

I thought it might be because of thanksgiving or some other weird us thingy.

finally you're learning to respect our customs and know your place!! good foreigner

Lil Bub, Famous Internet Cat, Dead at 8

was interviewed by David Yow once tbf

He was the hipster choice when it came to famous internet cats.

no Aquemini or atliens or southernplayalistic in the p4k archives fyi

I wonder what they think of those

i don't.

went to vote in the readers poll only for Lambchop to auto-complete to "Lambshop" (with the right album title though)

same w "Carla fal Gorno"

well it had the "dal" right. i'm prob not one to judge quick typos

yeah I'm super anal-retentive about this kind of stuff and I noticed they capitalized the first two letters in Andrew Bird's last name so it appeared as "Andrew BIrd"

Did pitchfork stop doing tracks reviews?
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/

(also, under "Reviews" there's no choice for "Tracks" anymore)

There's one from two days ago at that very link, for the Caribou song.

I know all these things are purely subjective, but . . . a 10 rating for The Chronic? Seriously? It's got about five or six good tracks.

deeeeez nuuuuuuts

Pitchfork cares about importance, not quality.

Everyone here probably knows, but this seems true: Dre helped to reshape the sound of the West using whining Moog synthesizers. The initial wave of West Coast gangsta rap was (naturally) still indebted sonically to hip-hop’s birthplace, New York City. N.W.A songs sampled Big Apple rappers Whodini and Beastie Boys. AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted was produced by Public Enemy’s team the Bomb Squad, and Cube was “obsessed with” Run-DMC. Many of the West Coast rappers that had come before Dre brought an undeniable California flavor to rap, but there wasn’t yet a distinctive sound separating them from their East Coast predecessors. The Chronic was instrumental in changing all that. The album’s reinterpretation of ’70s P-Funk, dubbed G-Funk, was altogether different. Dr. Dre’s songs moved more leisurely, a tonic for the hustle and bustle of East Coast rap. And I'd think that wold make it a bnm, without getting into anything about the rapping or the lyrics. But the need to reevaluate it as a political album seems off to me.

Also this: His debut album, 1992’s The Chronic is an imaginative crusade with half-truths so vibrant they blurred the lines of what was real. He collapsed the distance between the lawless Los Angeles of the persona he created for himself and the real one right outside Solar studios, giving his songs texture wherever possible: prank calls; Rudy Ray Moore skits; clips from blaxploitation flick The Mack; an earlier Chronic song playing as background music for a sketch in a later one; live commentary from protestors; exasperated TV news anchors announcing a city on fire. It is so meticulously crafted, so magnificently designed. Shit no, all the skits are awful!

Been listening to a lot of g-funk because of Slow Burn season three, and I have to say I think Doggystyle is the better album. More fully realized.

The Chronic [Interscope, 1992]
The crucial innovation of this benchmark album isn't its conscienceless naturalization of casual violence. It's Dre's escape from sampling. Other rappers, as they are called, have promised to create their own musical environments, usually without revealing how much art and how much publishing fuels their creative resolve. But Dre is the first to make the fantasy pay out big-time. The world he hears in his head isn't the up-to-date P-Funk fools say they hear--that would be too hard. Instead he lays bassline readymades under simulations of Bernie Worrell's high keyb sustain, a basically irritating sound that in context always signified fantasy, not reality--stoned self-loss or, at a best Dre never approaches, grandiose jive. This is bell-bottoms-and-Afros music, its spiritual source the blaxploitation soundtrack, and what it promises above all is boom times for third-rate flautists--sociopathic easy-listening. Even if it's "just pop music," as some rationalize, it's bad pop music. C+

This is one hell of a take. There’s samples all over The Chronic! “I Wanta Do Something Freaky to You”, anybody?

the need to reevaluate it as a political album seems off to me.

come on, son

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EJZk7H9-UA

Yes, but there are other songs on the album?

. . . a 10 rating for The Chronic? Seriously? It's got about five or six good tracks.

fp

, and what it promises above all is boom times for third-rate flautists

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41jKXwwCu3L._SX385_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

never knew til just now that Ben Folds regularly covered “Bitches Ain’t Shit” in concert.

Shit no, all the skits are awful!

― Frederik B, Sunday, 15 December 2019 15:55 (two hours ago) link

RONG

he would make the bassist say the part with the n word xp

That xgau review is so l gross. So many white boomer critics then were so invested in the idea of rappers as phony hucksters. “The first to make the fantasy pay out big time”, fuck that

His dealbreaker is the misogyny, which he is at least been consistent about pointing out and obscuring his own.

Hey, Fredrick B, did whatshername done get at you yesterday?

Bernie Worrell's high keyb sustain, a basically irritating sound 

fp's xgau

This is one hell of a take. There’s samples all over The Chronic! “I Wanta Do Something Freaky to You”, anybody?

I remember reading something decades ago in Melody Maker that Dr Dre avoided paying full royalties to the likes of Leon Haywood by getting session musicians to play the original riffs note-for-note instead.

Here's another take on The Chronic, from 2017. I agree with a lot of it, though not all of it.

https://thequietus.com/articles/23741-dr-dre-the-chronic-review-anniversary

Dre barely used samples before The Chronic, nearly everything he ever did was programmed by himself or others, with live players any time he could afford them

That Quietus piece is really bad imo, I recommend anyone stop reading it after the writer admits he only listened to the record once right before writing the piece. Calling it "sub-gutter" music nagl in 2017 (or ever).

lmao my god it's terrible

Not liking music because of hateful attitudes in the lyrics, that are reflected in the performer’s personal behaviour, is a perfectly reasonable position for a critic or human.

sure but that position is not well-written or -argued in that piece

Perhaps it's possible to see these splurges of verbal violence as automatic responses to a life of crack-fuelled gang violence, much in the same way that vomit and diarrhoea are symptoms of gastroenteritis.

ha ha yes, that was obviously a first-draft last-minute part of the piece, whew

perfectly reasonable to not like an album bc of its lyrics, also perfectly reasonable to listen to an album more than once before deciding youre the bright boy to write a 3000 word piece about it.