pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

Casiotone for the Painfully Alone's first album came out in 1999.

it's funny how research is easier than it ever has been in the history of the world, and yet ppl are still too lazy to do it

ooh baby makin music

There's a Spotify playlist called Bedroom Pop and it's all recent stuff like Clairo and Rex Orange County.

guys, "bedroom pop" refers to a specific group of modern musicians even though the term was used before...

if that's the case why is it being retroactively applied to a dude from 1983 who did not have a laptop, an internet connection and home recording software

were you big mad when they used to call Neil Young the "godfather of grunge"

even so, the most generous reading of that quote implies that no one had identified anything as "bedroom pop" prior to 2003

wait, what? he's talking about tapes by a guy who died in 1983.

I just don't get why this guy is the progenitor of this "genre" and not all these other people who were doing m/l the same type of thing

wait, what? he's talking about tapes by a guy who died in 1983.

right, and "decades" implies at least more than one decade ie +20 years = 2003 is the earliest point at which "the genre existed"

The compilation presents 25 tracks culled from over 500 recordings that Ivers laid down at his Laurel Canyon home and studios in L.A. in the mid-to-late ’70s

not quite so late as 2003, but granted, people were definitely using "bedroom pop" as a genre term when Exile in Guyville came out.

I think the issue is the word "genre." If it's referring to the specific group of modern musicians, maybe better to call it a "scene." Or just say "decades before Clairo came along."

yeah.

even so what is the connection between this guy and the current scene, as distinguished from other bedroom pop weirdos of the last 50 years (per the "weirdo king... decades prior")

You guys are absolute pedants and you sound like you're outside a Hot Topic screaming that Hawthorne Heights isn't punk

GenXers don't yell, we eyeroll

Jack Black definitely yells

Hawthorne Heights isn't punk

well they're not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

McCartney's home recorded solo debut: 1969,

lol

Casiotone for the Painfully Alone's first album came out in 1999.

― Οὖτις, Friday, November 15, 2019 3:59 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

now i can't tell if shakey is pedantic or just innumerate

Her full setlist included “Lover” and “The Man” from Lover, the title track from Love Story, “I Knew You Were Trouble” from Red as well as “Oh my God, look at That Face...” and “Shake It Off” from 1989.

Pretty sure the song is called “Blank Space.”

Btw — why was there no retrospective “Sunday review” today? I was looking forward to seeing how they rate Eddie Grant’s Killer on the Rampage, or whatever...

I thought it might be because of thanksgiving or some other weird us thingy.

finally you're learning to respect our customs and know your place!! good foreigner

Lil Bub, Famous Internet Cat, Dead at 8

was interviewed by David Yow once tbf

He was the hipster choice when it came to famous internet cats.

no Aquemini or atliens or southernplayalistic in the p4k archives fyi

I wonder what they think of those

i don't.

went to vote in the readers poll only for Lambchop to auto-complete to "Lambshop" (with the right album title though)

same w "Carla fal Gorno"

well it had the "dal" right. i'm prob not one to judge quick typos

yeah I'm super anal-retentive about this kind of stuff and I noticed they capitalized the first two letters in Andrew Bird's last name so it appeared as "Andrew BIrd"

Did pitchfork stop doing tracks reviews?
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/

(also, under "Reviews" there's no choice for "Tracks" anymore)

There's one from two days ago at that very link, for the Caribou song.

I know all these things are purely subjective, but . . . a 10 rating for The Chronic? Seriously? It's got about five or six good tracks.

deeeeez nuuuuuuts

Pitchfork cares about importance, not quality.

Everyone here probably knows, but this seems true: Dre helped to reshape the sound of the West using whining Moog synthesizers. The initial wave of West Coast gangsta rap was (naturally) still indebted sonically to hip-hop’s birthplace, New York City. N.W.A songs sampled Big Apple rappers Whodini and Beastie Boys. AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted was produced by Public Enemy’s team the Bomb Squad, and Cube was “obsessed with” Run-DMC. Many of the West Coast rappers that had come before Dre brought an undeniable California flavor to rap, but there wasn’t yet a distinctive sound separating them from their East Coast predecessors. The Chronic was instrumental in changing all that. The album’s reinterpretation of ’70s P-Funk, dubbed G-Funk, was altogether different. Dr. Dre’s songs moved more leisurely, a tonic for the hustle and bustle of East Coast rap. And I'd think that wold make it a bnm, without getting into anything about the rapping or the lyrics. But the need to reevaluate it as a political album seems off to me.

Also this: His debut album, 1992’s The Chronic is an imaginative crusade with half-truths so vibrant they blurred the lines of what was real. He collapsed the distance between the lawless Los Angeles of the persona he created for himself and the real one right outside Solar studios, giving his songs texture wherever possible: prank calls; Rudy Ray Moore skits; clips from blaxploitation flick The Mack; an earlier Chronic song playing as background music for a sketch in a later one; live commentary from protestors; exasperated TV news anchors announcing a city on fire. It is so meticulously crafted, so magnificently designed. Shit no, all the skits are awful!

Been listening to a lot of g-funk because of Slow Burn season three, and I have to say I think Doggystyle is the better album. More fully realized.

The Chronic [Interscope, 1992]
The crucial innovation of this benchmark album isn't its conscienceless naturalization of casual violence. It's Dre's escape from sampling. Other rappers, as they are called, have promised to create their own musical environments, usually without revealing how much art and how much publishing fuels their creative resolve. But Dre is the first to make the fantasy pay out big-time. The world he hears in his head isn't the up-to-date P-Funk fools say they hear--that would be too hard. Instead he lays bassline readymades under simulations of Bernie Worrell's high keyb sustain, a basically irritating sound that in context always signified fantasy, not reality--stoned self-loss or, at a best Dre never approaches, grandiose jive. This is bell-bottoms-and-Afros music, its spiritual source the blaxploitation soundtrack, and what it promises above all is boom times for third-rate flautists--sociopathic easy-listening. Even if it's "just pop music," as some rationalize, it's bad pop music. C+

This is one hell of a take. There’s samples all over The Chronic! “I Wanta Do Something Freaky to You”, anybody?

the need to reevaluate it as a political album seems off to me.

come on, son

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EJZk7H9-UA

Yes, but there are other songs on the album?

. . . a 10 rating for The Chronic? Seriously? It's got about five or six good tracks.

fp

, and what it promises above all is boom times for third-rate flautists

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41jKXwwCu3L._SX385_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

never knew til just now that Ben Folds regularly covered “Bitches Ain’t Shit” in concert.

Shit no, all the skits are awful!

― Frederik B, Sunday, 15 December 2019 15:55 (two hours ago) link

RONG

he would make the bassist say the part with the n word xp

That xgau review is so l gross. So many white boomer critics then were so invested in the idea of rappers as phony hucksters. “The first to make the fantasy pay out big time”, fuck that

His dealbreaker is the misogyny, which he is at least been consistent about pointing out and obscuring his own.

Hey, Fredrick B, did whatshername done get at you yesterday?