The Colombia/Ecuador/Venezuela Mess or Let's Place Bets on How Long Before the U.S. Backs a Colombian War With Venezuela

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when the current president is on record as saying that the indigenous population are satanists who should leave the cities and go back into the mountains.

this was from a fake tweet I believe

Simon H., Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

Bolsanaro was absolutely fairly elected. Or, that is, the whole thing was a sham meant to benefit the conservative right, but it seems to have disgusted the populace enough to go with a third choice, the fascist. So those he kinda beat fair and square. Lula, not so much.

Frederik B, Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link

xp oh really? Thanks for the update, sorry to spread bullshit.

JoeStork, Thursday, 14 November 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link

Regardless of the veracity of the tweet, we can all agree that she is a racist shit head.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 14 November 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link

"Bolsanaro was fairly elected" except the candidate who could've beaten him was jailed šŸ™„

xyzzzz__, Friday, 15 November 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link

Not even Boris has come up with that ploy yet.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Friday, 15 November 2019 09:30 (four years ago) link

Thanks xyz, that's an accurate condensation of my post. Now go fuck yourself.

Frederik B, Friday, 15 November 2019 09:35 (four years ago) link

I heard there is a new Star Wars film at Xmas. Maybe that's more your level.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 15 November 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link

wait........what

I bring this up because Bolivian coup agent Daza is a member of Leto's spooky cult Echelon, and from the looks of it appears to have been (be?) a leader of the Echelon cult in Bolivia. (There's a LOT more if you search Echelon, but here's just a few screens for example) pic.twitter.com/YmTY34CWyI

— bak (@measure7x) November 14, 2019

Simon H., Friday, 15 November 2019 11:01 (four years ago) link

Immanentizing the Bolivian echelon

Mordy, Friday, 15 November 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

Chilean singer Mon Laferte staged a protest at last night's Latin Grammys. Photo is NSFW, so search it up for yourself, but she wrote the words "En Chile Torturan Violan Y Matan" on her chest and dropped her top on the red carpet. (She later won Best Alternative Album.)

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 15 November 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

wait........what

I bring this up because Bolivian coup agent Daza is a member of Leto's spooky cult Echelon, and from the looks of it appears to have been (be?) a leader of the Echelon cult in Bolivia. (There's a LOT more if you search Echelon, but here's just a few screens for example) pic.twitter.com/YmTY34CWyI
ā€” bak (@measure7x) November 14, 2019
ā€• Simon H., Friday, November 15, 2019 6:01 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

30 seconds to MAS

Van Horn Street, Friday, 15 November 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

An interesting Twitter thread dismantling a popular conspiracy theory about the Bolivian coup.

Been so busy with work I missed this whole theory that the Bolivian coup was over lithium. Let's walk through it. pic.twitter.com/hqWS1uT6j6

— Mike Caulfield (@holden) November 17, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 17 November 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link

*Intellectuals at ilxor dot com screaming A FOURTH TERM?!*

The reality:

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/26/bolivia-rightwing-military-dictatorship?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

Also Canada has not recognized AƱez. I think this what europeans countries should do too. Put pressure on the notion that is really just an interim moment.

ā€• Van Horn Street, Thursday, 14 November 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Lol

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

This is entirely predictable but still sickening. https://t.co/1lMUGYsuzM

— Louis Allday (@Louis_Allday) November 29, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 November 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link

i bet bolivians have more on their mind than the status of their symbolic relationship with a country in the middle east

Mordy, Friday, 29 November 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link

*Intellectuals at ilxor dot com screaming A FOURTH TERM?!*

this seems like an awfully roundabout way of asserting that ilxor dot com has no intellectuals

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 29 November 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i bet bolivians have more on their mind than the status of their symbolic relationship with a country in the middle east

ā€• Mordy, Friday, 29 November 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Symbolic huh?

As expected, the Bolivian post-coup junta plans to privatize the economy and reverse the gains of the last 13 years.

The junta has already expelled 700 Cuban doctors, removed RT & Telesur from airwaves, and requested Israeli training of its military. https://t.co/Xfq7lhY0eQ

— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) December 16, 2019

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 09:04 (four years ago) link

Also Canada has not recognized AƱez. I think this what europeans countries should do too. Put pressure on the notion that is really just an interim moment.

ā€• Van Horn Street, Thursday, 14 November 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Just an interim govt, yeah

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 09:05 (four years ago) link

Just ignore the fascist and his propaganda, you're not going to be accurately informed. He has this fantasy going on where he is a right-thinking strongman disciplining the weak of mind. He is just an idiot.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 09:23 (four years ago) link

Fred, can you stop this, you're only going to get banned again.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link

One week to Star Wars Fred. One week.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 09:38 (four years ago) link

Tom, he literally just wrote 'we will have to get dirty online' on your little safe-space thread. If you don't want your allies to be called fascists, try and stop them from becoming authoritarians ranting about ruthless discipline. Nothing he writes above is about being informing, it's about punishing Mordy and Van Horn Street for speaking out of line. He is a sad loser thinking he is doing his part for the revolutionen by leaning into his shittiness. You'd do a lot more for your cause by speaking out against him than me.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link

Using a right-wing talking point to describe our little corner of the web is just beautiful. For a writer, you have a way with words!

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link

(xp) He's not my 'ally'. Showing up on random threads to shout fascist at someone is nagl but so be it, your choice, there's only going to be one outcome.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 10:12 (four years ago) link

Tom you don't know what you're talking about. This is not a 'random thread'. He literally cited Venezuela in yet another personal attack on me as late as yesterday! This guy is harassing me all over the board because I don't live up to his tankie ideals of 'anti-imperialism', and being completely open about doing it! And about wanting to do it to others!

Stay out of it if you don't want to know. You are literally defending online harassment, okay?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 10:25 (four years ago) link

I'm not literally defending anything. You're your own worst enemy.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link

New Paddington Bear film this Xmas Fred?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 10:33 (four years ago) link

No Tom, I'm pretty sure my worst enemy is not me but the guy who is harassing me. Who is open about using harassment strategically for discipline and punishment. And open about wanting to do it more. And who kept shitting on me after I blocked him. Pretty sure that guy is causing this. I'm not angling for sympathy, but what you're doing is textbook victimblaming. Just stay out of it. You have your little safespace, but don't let his abuse spread to the rest of the board.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 11:32 (four years ago) link

Drop the 'little safespace' shite, Fred.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 11:53 (four years ago) link

It's not safe from our Fred. Nothing is, sadly.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 12:01 (four years ago) link

I've said my piece, I'll leave you two to it.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 12:02 (four years ago) link

Well it's not just the two of us. Fred kicks off against multiple people on here, which is why he's been banned twice. Might take a 3rd.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link

I have, of course, not been banned twice. Dishonest abuser is being dishonest.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:05 (four years ago) link

So once then? Aren't you ashamed of yourself?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link

as usual, Europeans making South America all about themselves. get another thread, fools, for your petty squabbles

L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

I haven't lived in SA for a long time but do come from there. I revived with a report from Bolivia, but Fred is more important.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

Lol, unbelievable.

The crazy thing is how out in the open it is. How honest he is about being ā€˜ruthlessā€™ and ā€˜dirty onlineā€™. How obviously emotionally manipulative he is trying to be. How obviously he is trying to hurt. Me, and Van Horn Street, and Mordy, and imago and pom, etc. Itā€™s just so obviously a harassment campaign. And all Tom can say is ā€˜please donā€™t call him a fascistā€™ and ā€˜donā€™t say safespaceā€™.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

It's a good job you're not angling for sympathy because I don't think you'll be getting much from anyone on here. As far as I'm concerned, you can call him a fascist all you like, all that will happen is you'll be banned from ILX.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link

Was this chump banned once or twice?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link

The thing that amazes me, Tom, is that you wrote yourself just last week Remoind me how many times Fred been banned now. No idea why Comrade Alphabet feels it necessary to keep winding him up though. If you were like 'nah, he is not harassing you, you're overreacting' that would be one thing, but you know it's his fault.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

Using a right-wing talking point to describe our little corner of the web is just beautiful. For a writer, you have a way with words!


My eyebrows about crawled off my face reading this description of a thread where multiple people in fear of the incoming government are trying to make sense of it. Great look.

glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

And on a thread where we are trying to talk about an authoritarian coup in Latin America where people are being directly murdered.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Lol loser https://t.co/DBsDDELKFN

— WillšŸ§™ā€ā™‚ļøMenaker (@willmenaker) January 5, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 January 2020 09:37 (four years ago) link

Just reading this thread and came across the following:

Saying US involvement sucks doesn't contradict the notion that Russian involvement sucks even more. Plus looking at the history of US involvement, Venezuela is at the moment, very far from the worst. Also very far from the worst Russia has offered outside and within its borders.

The US military has killed, at a very conservative estimate, at least 12 million people in various "interventions" around the world since the end of World War II. Probably more. That dwarfs anything Russia has done in the same period of time.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 15:15 (four years ago) link

yeah but america is the good guys tho

'Sly Cooper' Movie Breaking Into Theaters In 2016 (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link


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