Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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An update:

The person opposite me on the district line is reading a book. I stare at the title. It is “Drive your plough over the bones of the the dead.”

— Rory Stewart (@RoryStewartUK) November 14, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 November 2019 09:38 (four years ago) link

An astonishing amalgam of murder mystery, dark feminist comedy and paean to William Blake from the Polish winner of the 2018 International Man Booker prize

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 14 November 2019 09:42 (four years ago) link

BJ stumbles through his election campaign showing an inability to address serious issues (flooding) and an inability to mop up water, he's getting heckled left and right. Do these things acually put a dent in the tories results though? I'm getting a 'lol nothing matters'-vibe from it all. He's not even shying away from situations with a huge chance of awkwardness (ie. any interaction with other human beings), so he doesn't seem to be that bothered about it?

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 14 November 2019 09:56 (four years ago) link

“Ruth Davidson, but somehow worse” pic.twitter.com/Z5MIe05Ng1

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) November 13, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 November 2019 09:58 (four years ago) link

👏 WHERE 👏IS👏 THE 👏 BORIS 👏TAPE👏

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:00 (four years ago) link

I think the flood might have fucked him, the entire gameplan appears to have been based around winning the kind of constituencies that are currently underwater and/or heckling him in the street. Guess this is why people don't usually do stupid things like calling elections in December.

The current situation with the LibDems is also focusing the minds of people who might be inclined to vote for them but will more likely vote tactical Labour.

Also for all the hype about a People vs Politicians this is looking like a standard Tory campaign reliant upon standard Tory lines - eg "they'll spend all your money". The main difference is 'get Brexit done' and the fact that the Tory manifesto is being launched very late in the campaign. While this prevents proper scrutiny it gives Labour the chance to set the agenda in the meantime, and the underlying factors that drove Labour's stronger-than-expected performance in 2017 haven't gone away.

Long way to go but this still looks to me like it's heading for another hung Parliament that will solve nothing.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link

(xp) Actually he very much is shying away from interaction with anyone not handpicked by Conservative Central Office. He'd made such an arse of the flooding crisis that someone obviously said to him he had to go up there and force himself to talk to sone soggy Northern proles.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:14 (four years ago) link

You see, this is why I said I felt irrationally embarrassed reading ‘Drive Your Plow...’: I was worried some rambling reactionary would tweet about it.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link

I saw someone on Newsnight saying that only sticking to stage managed events, cutting down on press conferences and keeping the unwashed at arms length worked for Cameron. However, if you're running a campaign on the People vs. Parliament fronted by a so-called personality politician it seems arse over tit.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:21 (four years ago) link

HUGE shoutout to the The Thick of It Quotes on Facebook for this brilliant take on Boris's Broadcast last night pic.twitter.com/WY3zyAjwY9

— Christian Calgie (@christiancalgie) November 13, 2019

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:29 (four years ago) link

Thanks Matt and Tom, suppose the 'lol nothing matters'-vibe is mostly my own. Can only hope these gaffes and blunders fuck him and the tories up.

Do think bot the tories and labour have something tucked away in their sleeve for a week before the GE date. From the latter I def hope it's the tape.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link

I saw someone on Newsnight saying that only sticking to stage managed events, cutting down on press conferences and keeping the unwashed at arms length worked for Cameron

Remind me how that went for May again?

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:32 (four years ago) link

More pertinently there are lots of people who would vote for Cameron who wouldn't vote for either May or Johnson. And Boris appears to be blowing his chances of compensating for that by winning in places that would never have voted for Cameron.

I have a nasty feeling it's going to be all Brexit and immigration panic from here on in.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:33 (four years ago) link

The week before the GE is when I have a nervo about what tabloids have squirreled away (particularly the Sunday papers) but I think they tried to do their worst on Corbyn in 2017 and I’m not sure what else they could have in reserve TBH.

Don’t know if the Graun will release a transcript of The Tape because it’s almost more effective as a sword of Damocles.

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:41 (four years ago) link

There has been more of a focus on that yesterday (Len's comments) and today but the manifestos will come out next week or so. Lab seem to focus on overall policy and as long as they do that I think that's good tbh.

The candidates are all confirmed by end of day and there seems to be no movement on Farage standing down in Con-Lab marginals...

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:42 (four years ago) link

xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:43 (four years ago) link

NHS Visas for the 100k NHS vacancies on the 7th, pledges to cut immigration numbers on the 14th.

koogs, Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:45 (four years ago) link

Real smart for a senior labour figure to bring up immigration lol, sure the fuck immigrants vote is going to come over to labour any day now

Camille Paglia is on my partner's NextDoor (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link

one of the key strengths of the labour leadership last GE was 1 cutting through the media noise to understand where the true centre of the election lay and 2 getting ahead of the conservatives in reacting to events. JC was very quick out the traps to identify how politically damaging these floods would be to BJ’s northern strategy.

A&E numbers out today are abysmal and winter not even properly started yet. polls already narrowing as minds focus on the choice in front of them under FPTP. still all to play for imo

||||||||, Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:59 (four years ago) link

Iirc Gerhard Schroeder in Germany once turned around an election campaign in which he looked, uh, dead in the water by appearing dynamic and effective during bad flooding

Camille Paglia is on my partner's NextDoor (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 14 November 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link

where do we think labour will land in their manifesto on the more radical conference policies ? the tories are going to crank the big dial titled RACISM anyway - labour should have the confidence of their convictions on immigration

Politicians and political pundits can sometimes be like generals, fully prepared to fight the last war. It is possible to miss profound changes that are taking place in society. One of those changes has been taking place for some time; the public attitude to immigration. https://t.co/J8vJrAAOoN pic.twitter.com/NQtK3H1Lci

— Diane Abbott (@HackneyAbbott) September 20, 2019

||||||||, Thursday, 14 November 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link

It's not got a title yet but you best believe I'm going to watch all 10 episodes back to back pic.twitter.com/DNeWvtvwa8

— General Boles (@GeneralBoles) November 13, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 November 2019 11:11 (four years ago) link

Pidcock defended McLunkey which is fine when you're nailing it on the immigration subject generally as she has been

nashwan, Thursday, 14 November 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link

Corbyn came out in favour of freedom of movement the other day. As for the manifesto, given its done by committee, they will probably water down the conference proposal...but won’t go legitimate concerns. I don’t think Len would have said that if he thought that’s where they were going. They should focus on the benefits - especially social, because nobody has been making that case for a long time and it needs making if there’s to be a 2nd referendum. And it’s the kind of thing that changes minds, unlike positioning immigrants as these net pluses to the economy (“they’re worth more than you!”).

gyac, Thursday, 14 November 2019 11:16 (four years ago) link

I saw, btw, that the scarf Corbyn’s racist heckler focused on was from a Scottish care charity, and they’re rightfully pissed off about the coverage

Whilst out on the campaign trail, @jeremycorbyn has been wearing a scarf that we gave to him.

Whilst he was explaining what it meant to him today, someone interrupted and took the focus away from Care Experienced people.

Comment from our CEO, Duncan Dunlop, on today's events: pic.twitter.com/zULizyqaSR

— Who Cares? Scotland (@whocaresscot) November 13, 2019

gyac, Thursday, 14 November 2019 11:20 (four years ago) link

plus classy response

Thank you for the scarf and all the work @whocaresscot does to support Care Experienced people. I treasure the scarf you gave me and that's why I brought it with me.

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) November 13, 2019

||||||||, Thursday, 14 November 2019 11:21 (four years ago) link

(meanwhile in shrunken defeated cowardly lump who wishes he was anywhere else but here today news, just look at bj's body language lol)

mark s, Thursday, 14 November 2019 11:22 (four years ago) link

i'm guessing we won't see a repeat of the glimmers of sympathy people felt for Maybot as we watched her logic circuits publicly melt down

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 November 2019 11:28 (four years ago) link

At least she had logic circuits. BJ is just an id with bad posture.

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 14 November 2019 11:37 (four years ago) link

I can’t believe David Cameron is out canvassing in marginals! Who thought that was a good idea?!

gyac, Thursday, 14 November 2019 11:40 (four years ago) link

his posture is visibly worsening (as it has been since the day after the brexit vote)

and i think her logic was much too much rooted in the belief that she could carry off what the posh fuckos all round her had beshitted -- she couldn't peer past their uselessness to see the impossiblity of the task clear

(i mean, she won the election -- just -- and shunted the tory vote up, but the task in hand is destroying the party. it may destroy everything else at the same time… )

mark s, Thursday, 14 November 2019 11:42 (four years ago) link

What does "destroy everything" mean? Whether the Tories win or Corbyn goes the fight for a better life for all will surely go on.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link

lol Kate Hoey is voting DUP

gyac, Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link

Aren't they too moderate for her?

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:13 (four years ago) link

It is interesting that CCHQ put up Brandon Lewis, a Home Office minister, to give interviews this morning defending what is the Conservative party’s overnight attack line against Labour - the claim that average net immigration would rise to 840,000 a year under Jeremy Corbyn – and not his boss, Priti Patel. Patel, the home secretary, is very popular with with rightwing Tories and Brexit party supporters, but she is not one of the cabinet minister most skilled at dealing with forensic questioning.

Nice euphemism for thick as a plank.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:13 (four years ago) link

uhhhhhhhhh

Actor Eddie Marsan brands Lib Dems a 'political enema' as he attacks Labourhttps://t.co/5wd99DIMHr pic.twitter.com/IiMlN7CcEC

— Mirror Politics (@MirrorPolitics) November 14, 2019

||||||||, Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:18 (four years ago) link

destroy everything = help cause us to miss our chance to defence against the climate-change ending of human culture as we understand it

but yr right, the change is gaia weathering human activity by stamping it out and the microbes will be doing fine all along, so not literally everything -- this isn't the nuclear exchange insanity of the 1980s

mark s, Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link

The enema within, er, amirite?

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:22 (four years ago) link

Ok lol I don't see this as an election where the planet is fucked if Lab loses. It's only the UK.

(Btw, in my dystopia both the microbes AND the good people of Norway will be fine) xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link

announce 👏🏻frances 👏🏻 Barber 👏🏻#FBPE👏🏻

gyac, Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link

A few other, primarily Western European countries would be slightly more fucked, I suppose, but no, the planet is not quite what's at stake here (thank Christ).

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link

enemas are a healthy thing and v. good for cleaning out all the old shit iirc

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:33 (four years ago) link

lol wait i misread wot ed said

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:34 (four years ago) link

for shame

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:34 (four years ago) link

LIB DEM

imago, Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

Critical support for Bojo on this;

Boris Johnson has sparked outrage after pouring milk in a cup of tea before taking the bag out https://t.co/zJ5768l70v

— Sky News (@SkyNews) November 13, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

what a douche xp

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:37 (four years ago) link

Who spoils their tea with milk anyway?

*ducks*

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:37 (four years ago) link

People who leave the bag in the mug are monsters.

gyac, Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link


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