thraed of DOJA CAT

I taught a class today and built a test account named "Doja Cat".

Hip class but only two ppl knew who she was :(

explain what you like about the aesthetic

i said the songs were fine lol

This is so weird. I kept seeing this thread. Didn’t realize DC is the artist my 12 yo is obsessing over.

your child has good taste

I know. Not my doing.

"juicy" is a remarkably stupid song. currently undecided as to whether i actually like it.

only other song i heard by her is "moo" which i didn't find charming but perhaps i'll dig deeper sometime

omg that and four other songs on her album are cowritten by dr. luke

i guess that didn't stop me from liking that kim petras song

for being a song w/ tyga about asses i find "juicy" to be (like much of her music) very witty

it is! a number of lines are quite clever, certainly not dimwitted in the slightest. i guess "stupid" isn't quite the right word... more silly, i guess?

it's also been in my head all day so safe to say i like it now

she's very viral on tiktok now, i think a lizzo-esque blowup is imminent

which host do u think she’ll be paired with on SNL?

she's very viral on tiktok now, i think a lizzo-esque blowup is imminent

― dyl, Monday, January 6, 2020 4:18 PM (four hours ago)

it's really weird and random too... at least "good as hell" and "truth hurts" are like big pop songs. the doja stuff that is blowing up seems really random, i don't really understand it at all. but good for her.

"say so" is pretty good i should note, but i like the similar song w/ gucci mane from the album much better

the guy who used to record as Saint Pepsi thinks he was ripped off

dr luke ripped off my biggest song for doja cat's biggest song and did it to the exact point where it would hold up in court

— Skylar Spence (@skylar__spence) February 26, 2020

I mean...yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw_7UrqzNUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er9xGRolrT4

like Doja Cat's is very clearly a sample of Good Time so does St Pepsi believe Chic retroactively ripped him off too?

idk if "say so" is a sample of "good times" as much as it's just a very similar-sounding record. i'd say the same for "fiona coyne." imo dr. luke just is a very unimaginitive producer, he's done this reheated disco/french house thing several times now (cf. kim petras "sweet spot")

I pointed out the Good Time connection on my burner Twitter account and uhhh St Pepsi is angry at me lol.

def don't wanna be Capn' Save a Luke but I don't think Pepsi would win in court.

i think he knows that

I thought by 'hold up in court' he meant a legal copyright challenge to Luke would hold up in court

it's confusingly worded but i think he meant the opposite

no I think it means the opposite, it's juuuust different enough that he wouldn't have a case. tbh I think it's possible that this is a coincidence but "Fiona Coyne" is a relatively well-known tune & knowing how these songwriters work it's definitely plausible he heard it and ripped it off

I remember an article a few years ago where Google did this, they offered an artist some token amount (like, less than a grand) to use one of his songs in a commercial, he told them to piss off, and then the ad folks at Google just re-wrote the song themselves but changed enough so they couldn't be sued. And he went into exactly what that entailed.

It's funny to hear stories from the other side of that, like from friends who do spec work making beats & music for ads. Like this one client had an Anderson Paak beat as a reference, and said "but give it your own spin", of course. A few revisions later, it turns out what they meant was "literally replay this beat, with the same rhythms and details, without the license fee".

this is going to be the first really big hit for dr luke after the kesha lawsuit, right? i wonder how doja cat is intending to answer questions about him in interviews as i'm sure that'll happen if the song keeps climbing the charts (and everything atm indicates it will)

imo "say so" and "fiona coyne" are closer than either is to "good times" and they're just different enough for there to be plausible deniability. i can understand why skylar spence is annoyed but apart from the riff there's nothing similar going on and it's the sort of generic disco riff that i could easily believe dr. luke came up with it either on his own or after listening to "fiona coyne" or "good times" and trying to deliberately come up with a plausibly deniable rip.

this is going to be the first really big hit for dr luke after the kesha lawsuit, right? i wonder how doja cat is intending to answer questions about him in interviews as i'm sure that'll happen if the song keeps climbing the charts (and everything atm indicates it will)

― monotony, Monday, March 2, 2020 2:09 AM (thirty-two minutes ago)

i can tell you from personal experience that they have a very strict "no dr. luke questions during this interview" policy, but it's more easily enforced when the stakes are lower (fashion magazines and such). if bigger/more powerful media places start taking an interest in her it will be harder to maintain. i think part of her hesitance comes from a legitimate place, in that she signed w/ kemosabe when she was a teenager and can't do anything to untangle herself from luke in terms of business, so on that front there isn't much to discuss. but the extent to which she is working with him creatively is a different question and one she'll prob eventually have to answer. i do wonder to what extent their creative relationship is also contractual but that's something we'll prob never know.

i'd be a little surprised if their creative relationship was contractual since he wasn't involved at all in amala, and i thought luke wasn't supposed to be involved at kemosabe as of 2017? or did sony just remove him as ceo of kemosabe and insist he lays low for a bit, with him now being still involved there more than just as a producer for hire?

opened doja cats live to her reciting roddy ricch the box lyrics like she's reciting hamlet in fucking chainmail armour I- pic.twitter.com/j0Fpejeuw8

— yaz💛 (@flowerhunni) April 9, 2020

What a week we're all having!

What’s the story? I saw she was trending, but couldn’t figure out why.

I saw something that said she's a white supremacists l or something hut isn't she half Black?

I remember when people were cancelled for obvious reasons.

https://www.ccn.com/doja-cat-joe-biden-canceled-on-same-day-maybe-they-should-run-together/

Also imago did you come here to dunk on people for liking her music

So she's being cancelled for third party's vague recollections of things she supposedly did in a chat room and no screenshot or anything approximating evidence?

Yeah, sounds about right for Twitter.

It's 2020, yo.

I thought she was already #problematic for working with Dr Luke and #cancelled for her teenage homophobic slurs

Yeah, and something else last week.

Wouldn't be surprised if it's an incel campaign

Or a Lana Del Rey stan campaign. Possibly both.

Online is so fucking tiring sometimes.

Wait let me get this straight Imago. So when a comedian you like gets called out for some antisemitic bantz in a national newspaper it's crybullying that must be faced down at all costs, but when a black artist was supposedly laughing along in a white supremacist chat room, despite there being no actual record of this, it's an occasion to rub your hands together with glee? I mean at least be consistent.

i didn't pass judgement! threadbump at least as much about the phenomenon as the crime (if there even was one). didn't you see how i said the KAS 'cancellation' was nonsense? the LDR drama was some crass, crass self-promotion bs - this one isn't artist-driven

stewart lee thing wasn't intentionally (or possibly even accidentally) antisemitic though obviously and it's not a great comparison

online drama wrought by toxic fan culture has in the last 2 days killed a star of a reality tv show (and wrestling) that i watch, and ended the career of one of my favourite bands (black dresses) - i am not here to likewise stick the knife into DC (although i'm obviously no fan)

maybe wasn't worth bumping this thread, but i thought we had a collective duty to stay on top of the Discourse or something idk

also it is disingenuous for you to equate the extremely bad-faith crybullying (yes) of the fucking hard-right pundit circle - people who claim that jeremy corbyn is a racist - with stan drama lol

i should have known better than to click a doja cat thread thinking it would be a suitable alternative to the hillary clinton thread

but seriously

joe biden just got "cancelled" _this fucking week_?

christ. look i'm off to play match three games all fucking weekend.

Partly my fault for linking to that trash website but at least it does justice to the spirit of Twitter quite well.

if we capture the spirit of twitter can we banish it to the land of wind and ghosts?

Gladly!

shame about black dresses

what happened with black dresses?

I did try to search for it but all I got was a lot of posts about cancelled orders from clothes shops

same question ^ i couldn't figure it out either