and she's actually *named* Margaret in this one
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 November 2019 01:49 (four years ago) link
"evoking Hoffa" doesn't sound fun... guy was a bellowing steamroller. (I bet that Robert Blake miniseries from the '80s has some ham too.)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 November 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link
You're missing my point. Few actors in the last 30 years bother looking or sounding like RFK besides a broad Bahston Braaahmin accent, so why try for "truth" with Hoffa? It freezes the actors.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 November 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link
Is there controversy over Paquin? My cavil was, "Hey, is that Paquin, and why is she just glowering?"
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 November 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link
“I kept asking Steve Zaillian if we can layer her in the story,” Scorsese said at the DGA Theater in NYC. “I decided that she doesn’t have to say anything. You see your father do something like that, I’m sorry… You see him crush the guy’s hand like that… other kids maybe, but this kid couldn’t take it. She looks at him. She knows he’s up to something and Lucy was great, but Anna ultimately was amazing in the looks. She has one line in the film. There’s something you can’t talk about. She knows it. She knows who she is. He knows she knows. Even when she’s sitting there and the police are talking about Joey Gallo being [murdered.] ‘A lone gunman walked in…’ and you see she’s looking at him.”
https://www.indiewire.com/2019/10/martin-scorsese-anna-paquin-irishman-1202185371/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 November 2019 02:09 (four years ago) link
I've heard Hoffa and Pacino doesn't esp sound like him. Many viewers are going to be confused by Al playing an Irish-Pa Dutch guy though.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 November 2019 02:10 (four years ago) link
Won't bother linking to the Guardian "writer" who at one point opines "She seems more like a symbol than a real person." BINGO, SWEETZ, YA GOT IT
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 November 2019 02:13 (four years ago) link
he also throws away jesse plemons, bobby cannavale, jim norton... Steve Van Zandt does some blink and you miss it lip synching!
omg KJB and I both failed to figure out who SVZ was. I did wonder why they got a fire-hydrant-shaped Jerry Vale.
Jim Norton should be thrown away regularly fwiw
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 November 2019 02:17 (four years ago) link
"acting" is when the actor says lines!!!
― Simon H., Monday, 11 November 2019 02:20 (four years ago) link
yeah exactly... "line count," what a clown.
anyway the Hoffa role is kinda written as heavily comic... I didn't see it as an impression. If anything my main problem is he was too much like Big Boy Caprice -- which was also his chief virtue!
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 November 2019 02:22 (four years ago) link
Lmao
― Οὖτις, Monday, 11 November 2019 02:22 (four years ago) link
Cos
Argh stupid phone, dont mind me
― Οὖτις, Monday, 11 November 2019 02:23 (four years ago) link
"Hey, is that Paquin, and why is she just glowering?"
She hates and fears her father.
You can argue the nonverbal approach doesn't work, and that's fine, but the intention is clear.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 November 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
on soundtrack choices
https://www.slashfilm.com/the-irishman-soundtrack/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link
(text kinda spoilery if u care)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link
is it true this movie is 3.5 hours long?
― flopson, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
yes
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
worth it?
― flopson, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link
Ça dépend!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link
sure!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link
It feels faster than Casino, which is 30 minutes shorter... although it is paced more slowly.
but you can always go back to yr must-see 70-hour TV series
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
OK!
― temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link
i ended up sitting next to a guy i hadn't seen in years at the theater when i saw this and when the lights came up the first thing he said was "well i've got to see that again later this week". I mean, he's nuts but i can see rewatching this at some point.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link
MoMA's running it for a week after Christmas, and i will likely return
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
This movie sucks, and nothing will ever change my mind about that fact. I haven't seen it though, and I refuse to ever see it.
― Dan I., Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, November 13, 2019 2:27 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
is this a zing directed at me? i watch like one season of tv per year lol
― flopson, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
not at all, i was speaking to the times in which we live. sorry flopson
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
i will retroactively direct it at mob-film-hater Eric tho (xo)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link
Hey, I dug My Blue Heaven at the time.
― temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link
Married to the Mob is fun iirc
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link
Oh duh, forgot about Sister Act!
― temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link
don't make me come over there
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
https://okinawaassault.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/vlcsnap-1320201.png
"Don't make me come over there!"
― temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
I made it a point to see this on my last night in Toronto (moved out after living most of my life there). I figured it would be good enough to inspire a long post recalling hugely influential screenings of Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, and Raging Bull (all three at long-gone Toronto theatres).
It's okay--I'll spare you all the nostalgic post. Pesci gives the best performance, but it's hardly a demanding one--he's playing not-Joe-Pesci, and you enjoy and appreciate that. I actually liked Pacino better, though. He overacts a couple of times, but on the whole, he was pretty lively and seemed to be having fun. (The Dick Tracy comparison might be valid--haven't seen it since it came out.) Bad sign for me was when "In Still of the Nite" started up right away and I felt nothing. I think that part of Scorsese might be dead to me. Thought Harvey Keitel had some real presence in his small part.
― clemenza, Thursday, 14 November 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link
well "Still" sets the tone of a movie that could be called The Dead. I don't think he's going for a "Be My Baby" thing there, but pure irony/grimness.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j1T5xjwGJQ
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link
that was *kinda* funny the first time...
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 November 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link
Encore du champagne.
― temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 November 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link
Enchanté to you too!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 November 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
I don't remember the exact beginning of the film, but I thought "In the Still of the Nite" was used to draw you into the film at a sensory/sensuous level. It's a great song. But it went right past me and I thought, "Scorsese has finally worn out that nerve ending for me." I've read lots of people say that that happened with them with Goodfellas, that the music was just layered on mechanically, but I love how pop music was used there. This is the film where that feeling caught up with me. Even Casino had a few great musical bits.
― clemenza, Thursday, 14 November 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link
used "Sleep Walk" in Casino too
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 November 2019 23:16 (four years ago) link
seeing this tomorrow
― k3vin k., Thursday, 14 November 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link
Me too
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 November 2019 02:17 (four years ago) link
I'm at the 3:30 matinee showing in Dallas, and I am one of 8 people in the theater?!
it's only showing at one other place! (the theater where Oswald was nabbed)
is this weird or not? I thought it'd packed
― cryborg (rip van wanko), Friday, 15 November 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link
it's all sold out here today (and i neglected to try and buy tickets til last night). there may be some at the door, so i might try for that, anything for this last hurrah of the boomer gangster epic
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 November 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link
saw this today and liked it. and aside from needing to pee for the last 60 minutes or so, didn’t think the 210 minutes felt like it at all
some half-baked thoughts
pesci was really good - as clemenza says, playing “not joe pesci”. he was fresh as an even-keeled, genial boss, and he and pacino both looked great in their younger scenes. pacino is perfectly cast as hoffa
had some issues with de niro, partly because I found it hard to buy him as a thirty-something tough guy considering he moved like he was in his seventies or eighties, which he is. thought his character really became interesting in the final third when he was caught between jimmy and russell, but before that he seemed pretty nondescript. also didn’t feel like the subplot with the daughter really worked that well and wished there were a little more focus on his family and the female characters in general.
the music I thought was great
best scene and line was probably keitel’s “I do.” keitel didn’t have a huge part but I thought he did a lot with the part
― k3vin k., Friday, 15 November 2019 23:46 (four years ago) link
thought this was a snore
― cryborg (rip van wanko), Saturday, 16 November 2019 03:06 (four years ago) link
rip, so did J.Ro
https://letterboxd.com/jrosenbaum2002/film/the-irishman-2019/
I disagree.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 16 November 2019 04:20 (four years ago) link
entering SPOILER TERRITORY....
The Brandt book adds a lot more emphasis to the mob-hit-JFK angle, with Sheeran delivering rifles headed for Texas in fall '63, and Hoffa telling Sheeran that Bufalino's words (to Hoffa) at the Philly tribute dinner were "Some people think you are not showing enough appreciation for Dallas." I suspect Scorsese didn't want the film to come off like JFK II.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 16 November 2019 04:25 (four years ago) link