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The sound that jazz instruments make when being manipulated by jazz players, for the delight of jazz respondents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB6Ix1sw0iI

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 10 November 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

If I had to pick my favorite jazz instrument, it would probably be a tie between the tubs and the licorice stick

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Sunday, 10 November 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

instruments are ok but gimme some good scatting any day, just some shoobedy boopedy bop, you know, real jazzy jazz

j., Sunday, 10 November 2019 23:05 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

why do i all of the sudden have the urge to listen to jazz all the time

treeship., Monday, 18 May 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

it's good. i think the "looseness" of jazz music, the fact that it can accommodate stray notes et cetera and get back on track, makes it a psychologically/emotionally palliative genre

treeship., Monday, 18 May 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

Because sometimes it's really good.

xp

pomenitul, Monday, 18 May 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

i recommend the album blume by nerija, a london group that i think is all women

treeship., Monday, 18 May 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

ok a quick google search reveals that there are dudes in this group too. nevertheless it is a good album

treeship., Monday, 18 May 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

I've been listening to a lot of jazz lately, the dynamic range and amount of actual human playing & variation in the music is soothing.

Sample & loop-based music can be soothing in its own way too, the hypnotic uniformity, but I've been going back and forth.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 18 May 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

Really loving Blue Note lately, the playing of course but really the sound of the recordings. Reading articles about Rudy Van Gelder was a huge lights-on moment, that he was in no way trying to capture a naturalistic recording of the musicians, but to make it sound more exciting. Or to make up for the loss of excitement that comes from not seeing it live, and that it wasn't an accident. That's the problem I have with so many modern jazz records, that they try to treat it like classical music and any interesting tones are taboo.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 18 May 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

OTM. Once I was talking to a friend of mine about this problem and complimenting him on the sound of one of his recordings and he told "I gave the engineer a Jeff 'Tain' Watts CD," *makes hand gesture to illustrate this transfer* "and told him, make it sound like THAT!"

Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

there is this track on the new Anna Högberg Attack album that is pure golden era Blue Note without being a bad pastiche - it's so good.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link

Yeah, if it's the track I'm thinking of, in my review I compared it to Cecil Taylor's Conquistador!, one of the only two albums he made for Blue Note.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

why do i all of the sudden have the urge to listen to jazz all the time

I'm doing this too, maybe it's quarantine related. The "cerebral-ness" gives my brain some pathways to wander while spending time mainly at home.

Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://i.imgur.com/ze6NabA.jpg

calstars, Sunday, 21 June 2020 12:11 (three years ago) link

^

mark s, Sunday, 21 June 2020 12:17 (three years ago) link

thirded

Colonel Radle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 June 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link

paul chambers pops up on so many great to absolute classic albums, it's amazing he managed to fit it in during 33 short years on this rock.

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link

I've been listening to Bass on Top a lot recently. Dude can PLAY. And Blues and the Abstract Truth is all time. I can't think of another album that swings so hard.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 21 June 2020 13:55 (three years ago) link

Loved Frank Wess.

Colonel Radle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 June 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

paul chambers pops up on so many great to absolute classic albums, it's amazing he managed to fit it in during 33 short years on this rock.

I had no idea his life was so short. but have always been amazed at how many stunners Dolphy, who only lived 3 years longer, led or contributed to.

Scampo, we hardly knew ye (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 21 June 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

Great cover on that After Hours disc

calstars, Sunday, 21 June 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link

Chambers is def a top 5 bassist for me. Spent so much of my formative listening years with the Miles Quintet records.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 21 June 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

There’s a younger guy I saw once who was totally channeling Paul Chambers more than most others. He’s not famous or anything although he has or had a regular gig with someone who is well-known.

Colonel Radle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 June 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

Guy named Aaron James, plays with Gregory Porter.

Colonel Radle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 June 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

The we three album with chambers, Roy haynes, and phineas newborn is a great trio record

brimstead, Sunday, 21 June 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

yeah I actually keep forgetting how many great albums he's on.

Is that the one with "ROY!.... HAYNES!"

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 21 June 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

yeah I actually keep forgetting how many great albums he's on.

Is that the one with "ROY!.... HAYNES!"


If we’re thinking of the same song, that’s “Snap Crackle” from the Haynes-led Out Of The Afternoon record, with Henry Grimes, Rahsaan Roland Kirk, and Tommy Flanagan.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 21 June 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link

What a line-up, will have to check that album.
RH awes on Getz's Focus, arr. by Eddie Sauter:
The theme of the opening track, "I'm Late, I'm Late", is nearly identical to the opening minutes of the second movement of Béla Bartók's Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta. Bartók had been an early supporter of Sauter, who intended the track as an homage. "I'm Late, I'm Late" also features drummer Roy Haynes, the album's only soloist beside Getz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAyrdlUcZIw

dow, Sunday, 21 June 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

definitely did not know about the sauter / bartók connection, how strange !

budo jeru, Sunday, 21 June 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

I think this album cover obv came later to cash in on Cannonball Adderlley's fame, the original as was the want of the music industry at the time had a pic of a pretty white woman on it!

calzino, Sunday, 28 June 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

wow never seen that, what a lineup!

brimstead, Sunday, 28 June 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

Yeah, this is the front cover on Spotify, Amazon, etc.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71zYKTXo4SL.jpg

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 28 June 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

Also, the Savoy version is credited to Kenny Clarke, but the one I just posted is credited to Cannonball Adderley.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 28 June 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

yeah you get a lot of that when certain band members' fame eclipses the band leader and they probably signed a terrible deal with the record company etc

calzino, Sunday, 28 June 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

I may be making this up but I think there are Coltrane records that were originally billed under someone else.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 28 June 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

Yeah, several albums from the 50s with Coltrane as a sideman were later reissued under his name.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 28 June 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

Miles was reportedly unhappy about the album's original cover, which featured a photograph of a young white woman and child aboard a sailboat. He made his displeasure known to Columbia executive George Avakian, asking, "Why'd you put that white bitch on there?" Avakian later stated that the question was made in jest. For later releases of the record, however, the original cover-photo has been replaced by a photograph of Miles Davis.

calzino, Sunday, 28 June 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

I may be making this up but I think there are Coltrane records that were originally billed under someone else.


I can’t think of any other examples off the top of my head, but Cecil Taylor’s 1959 Hard Driving Jazz (aka Stereo Drive) was reissued under Trane’s name in 1962 as Coltrane Time:

https://img.discogs.com/1ULNqdoshAGT6CePc-KCUnsXmbY=/fit-in/600x565/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-3862474-1347273755-3485.jpeg.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cf/a6/8f/cfa68f3a56078847c69587fda504342a.jpg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 28 June 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

Taylor hated that session because he thought Dorham was too conservative, apparently.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 29 June 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

weird album, interesting but not great, coltrane kind of awkward between two players stubbornly sticking to basically different genres

original cover belongs in the yawnsomely literal thread

they did this with several other 50s coltrane sideman recordings, not fair towards the original leader and often disappointing as coltrane albums

Taylor hated that session because he thought Dorham was too conservative, apparently.


Interesting. I had heard that Cecil had been an admirer of Dorham’s, but that Kenny was a dick to him on the session.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 29 June 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link

I can't remember where I got the anecdote, but my recollection was that Cecil was not allowed to pick the band and felt Dorham wasn't right for the music, and didn't get what he wanted out of it ultimately.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

it's since been reissued in piecemeal, but for a time, the paul chambers mosaic select box was one of the most prized things in my collection. still is, i suppose, but the material is much more available these days. at the time it was first available, it had previously unissued coltrane performances on it; which of course was the big draw - and wild to think that that stuff sat mostly unheard for fourty years! but the rest of it is also predictably excellent.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51SdVMSbD5L._AC_SY355_.jpg
after reading some serious stanning on Jeanne Lee from Katz I thought I'd check this out, it's amazing.

calzino, Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link

that album rules I need to hear more from her

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2020/06/11/invitation-jazz-singer-jeanne-lee/

lol i mean Shatz not Katz, but it is a jazz thread!

calzino, Thursday, 2 July 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link


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