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With his incredible start to the season (26.7pts, 9.1ast, 9.9reb), the question #must be asked: Is Luka Doncic A Top 5 Player In The NBA? https://t.co/dZN2uGhYub

— BBALLBREAKDOWN (@bballbreakdown) November 8, 2019

k3vin k., Friday, 8 November 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

Top 15 it seems

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

he's top 5 until he isn't

ciderpress, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

aron baynes is also a top 10 player currently

ciderpress, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

yeah i mean the thing is even when a young players is putting up all nba number vs the wizards on a tuesday night we all know it takes years of honing their game before they can dominate vs the real good teams when it really counts (the nba playoffs baby)

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

i mean like even giannis whos been at this a while longer and has an mvp still kinda got exposed in last years offs

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link

kawhi leonard on the other hand got very not exposed

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link

I really think luka is in that giannis/kawhi class in terms of talent, even if he’s not quite there yet. not sure I’ve felt more sure of a young dude since maybe anthony davis, and lebron before that

k3vin k., Friday, 8 November 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link

only thing i wld say is he doesnt have the defensive or athletic ceiling near any of those guys, hes more like...........harden

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link

but a harden who plays joyfully and unselfishly, sounds pretty great!

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 22:58 (four years ago) link

i think u cld also compare him to steph or kyrie tho obvs those are smaller guys and so a little different

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link

harden is closest tho, theyre both chuckers

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link

but harden is an efficient chucker something that is apparently possible now

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link

another big game tonite

ciderpress, Saturday, 9 November 2019 05:03 (four years ago) link

he is good at basketball

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 November 2019 06:11 (four years ago) link

Doncic is probably done for the night. The line he achieved in three quarters -- 24 points, 14 boards, eight assists -- has only been done in nine other regular season since last season's All-Star break. Doncic has now done it three times this week.

— Bobby Karalla (@bobbykaralla) November 10, 2019

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:15 (four years ago) link

on the second night of a back to back, man. I miss being 20

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link

http://bkref.com/tiny/6Rdfq

looks like only the fifth 24-14-8 on a back to back since 83, joining barkley, bird, jeff ruland(!), and...david lee?

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:13 (four years ago) link

luka basically a combo of all those guys (idk who jeff ruland is)

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:14 (four years ago) link

consecutive games of 24-14-8, that is

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:14 (four years ago) link

would be cool if luka was part jeff ruland

ciderpress, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:15 (four years ago) link

lmao

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:21 (four years ago) link

both guys wearing the same shoes except one is hi top and one is mid

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:23 (four years ago) link

lol that is exactly chicago mike d'antoni from the reg season thread!

mike dan tony (Clay), Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:30 (four years ago) link

lmao IT IS

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:32 (four years ago) link

what is chicago mike d'antoni from the reg season thread

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:47 (four years ago) link

xp with a name like hat he oughta be coachin DA BULLS

― i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Saturday, November 9, 2019 11:21 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

wld be a fitting last stop for him

― lag∞n, Saturday, November 9, 2019 10:26 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he gets fat, grows the mustache out, holding polish sausage and spilling sauerkraut while he yells at the ref, what a fucking life that would be

― i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Saturday, November 9, 2019 10:27 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

jeff ruland looks like this ^^^

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:48 (four years ago) link

but thats not the regular season thread

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:49 (four years ago) link

sir YES IT IS it is the regular degular thread

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Sunday, 10 November 2019 05:05 (four years ago) link

i feel like you guys arent being clear tbqh

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 05:06 (four years ago) link

luka basically a combo of all those guys (idk who jeff ruland is)


Jeff Ruland was a guy who was briefly a superstar and then his body fell apart, one of the worst injury cases in NBA history

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 10 November 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

Just read up on him. Getting an Achilles injury from an arena worker accidentally slamming cart into the back of his foot...

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Sunday, 10 November 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

damn

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

i forgot luka wears 77, definitely an honorary ilxor

ciderpress, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 01:05 (four years ago) link

exactly he is one of us

k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 November 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link

luka already does that harden thing on a regular basis where it seems like he didn’t have a great game and then you look at the box score and he had 34 on 21 shots

k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 November 2019 03:56 (four years ago) link

both him and harden have super elite level ability to read and react to the defense that keeps them a half a step ahead of everyone even tho theyre technically slow, its the opposite of robotic play (tho harden is often scientific)

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

thinking abt it one thing that will determine how far luka will go is his 3pt shooting, his % have been pretty bad so far ~33%, a lot of that is he just takes really difficult shots, like stepping back five feet and shooting from 30, just adjusting his shot selection which fwiw i have full confidence he can do cld help him level up one level

but the thing that cld cause him to level up like three levels is learning how to hit difficult 3s like james harden, which really is a combo of shot selection and getting better at shooting, like he hit a deep jab step 3 last night that is such a better shot than a stepback, or like doing a small stepback that keeps him on balance is viable

not sure if he has the stuff to be a super elite shooter but if he does it wld go a long way towards making his game true superstar ready, the blueprint he has now with not great outside shooting and lots of flippy stuff in the paint seems like it cld be exploitable by a very good determined playoff defense, tho his great passing offsets that somewhat

the other path is getting good teammates and just shooting less creating more, which if u look at the mavs front office history might be a big lift, also they run the risk of getting stuck in the middle with one great player and a great coach they cld always be sniffing the playoffs even if the rest of the roster is bad

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

+having bad teammates is causing him to carry too heavy a load especially for a young player, he got tired and a little out of control at the end of the game last night started throwing his body around which is obvs not great

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

tho the sight of him bleeding from the mouth making very eastern european smiling youve got to be kidding me gestures at the refs was pretty charming, tough guy for sure

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

he does seem to love getting out there and mixing it up, wld be a fun guy to root for

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link

btw lol at tommy last night “wheres this kid from slovenia we gotta send him back there buy him a plane ticket”

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

Oh my god you’re still skeptical

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

This is like when I thought James harden was a sixth man type

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

feel like my analysis is pretty fawning tbf, no ones game is complete their second year

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

Already elite at reading the D/seeing the floor. Prime Chris Paul-level of orchestrating things.
Shot looks good tho? Good form, consistent stroke, nice arc. Yeah prob just needs to take better shots + get better at making difficult ones.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link

he has that quality of being able to make the defense panic and make mistakes too like last night he repeatedly sucked four celtics into the paint and hit wide open shooters (who then missed), when obvs the celtics shdve just played him straight up and let him take his floaters or just sent one man to double team

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

tho it cldve been just disrespect for the rest of their roster too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

anyway i think we can all agree that the bbiomechanics guy should have the last word on lukas jumper re adaptively groove variations in arm swing timing

Although we can adaptively groove variations in arm swing timing relative to 2nd ground contact:
🔺It is substantially earlier than the R foot contact
🔺Energy must be organized w/upper body dominant (swing like motion of arms, late wrist, & slight pause at top)@bballbreakdown pic.twitter.com/vufKF9MmAq

— BBiomechanics (@BBiomechanics) November 12, 2019

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link

his ft% is fine but not amazing. he needs to work on composure and not letting the refs derail him. i think he still misses some open passes on pick and roll late in games. conditioning and not getting fatigued. there's plenty to do, which is scary.

call all destroyer, Monday, 24 August 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link

yeah its crazy hes kinda still getting by on talent in some phases of the game his ball handling is super technical and his passes are pinpoint but his shooting and game around shooting footwork shot selection just general technique can still be improved a lot, and yes then conditioning

lag∞n, Monday, 24 August 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link

getting in better shape will help with things like ankle injuries too

lag∞n, Monday, 24 August 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

-Rotation torsion flexion valgus

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 24 August 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link

but theres really no reason he shouldnt have a harden-tatum type three point game, hes already got the handle and feel to do it and hes obvs talent wise a good shooter its just a matter of improving his footwork and tightening up his shot a little

lag∞n, Monday, 24 August 2020 01:36 (three years ago) link

he’s weird in the sense that he’s better at tough 3s than ordinary ones

3:10 to yur mom (voodoo chili), Monday, 24 August 2020 01:41 (three years ago) link

the ball is always in his hands so I bet theyre the majority of the ones he takes

k3vin k., Monday, 24 August 2020 03:16 (three years ago) link

the iso 3 and the catch and shoot 3 should probably be treated as completely separate skills

call all destroyer, Monday, 24 August 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link

He has nice arc but obv isn't super consistent, hence only being a mid 70s FT shooter. Needs Seth Curry to give him a tune up.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 24 August 2020 05:28 (three years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/gcV16VTjR3

— Out Of Context NBA (@oocnba) August 24, 2020

lag∞n, Monday, 24 August 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

That’s great. A much more endearing reminder of his youth and humanity than when they used to show Lebron biting his nails on the bench.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 24 August 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Luka is a master manipulator. Toys with the entire defense on this possession. In total control. Incredible player. pic.twitter.com/iCTQfL0KBF

— Jackson Frank (@jackfrank_jjf) January 26, 2021

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

Sources: Luka Doncic has reported to training camp weighing more than 260 pounds the last two years. "I know I've got to do better," Doncic said about his conditioning. https://t.co/vuk7WSHxI3https://t.co/vuk7WSHxI3

— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) December 8, 2021

Spottie, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 21:19 (two years ago) link

lol between him a jokic the balkans are really showing the nba how to live

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link

chunky boy

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 December 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link

luka donthicc etc etc

Spottie, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link

excuse me jokic has been in shape for like 2 years now

k3vin k., Thursday, 9 December 2021 00:37 (two years ago) link

yeh he figured it out

Spottie, Thursday, 9 December 2021 00:57 (two years ago) link

hes still got a lil dough, still claiming him as a fellow fattie

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 9 December 2021 01:03 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X93GyqpdM3w

Spottie, Thursday, 9 December 2021 01:09 (two years ago) link

jokic will be back hes a husky boy at heart

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 December 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link

no doubt, this is the "im trying not to get fined" body, hes gonna have a boris in charlotte moment

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 9 December 2021 01:54 (two years ago) link

he’s a changed man!!

k3vin k., Thursday, 9 December 2021 01:59 (two years ago) link

let me say this from firsthand experience as a fat kid who lost a bunch of weight as an adolescent and then gained that shit back in my 30s, no the fuck hes not

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 9 December 2021 03:36 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Since Jan 1st, Luka is shooting the most pull-up threes per-game in the league (7.4) and he's made 37.8% of them. He's about 15 miles past unguardable when he has it going.

— Paul Don't Lie (@PaulHeadleyNBA) March 21, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 21 March 2022 19:05 (two years ago) link


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