will noisey have moved forward, done the work and fought like fuck?

but the fader is so woke, how could this be

in the sense that this announcement was widely, and rightly, ridiculed for rank hypocrisy, it's aged p goddamn well imo, including in light of recent allegations.

i feel like this thread was Bruneau at his best

vice did some work
https://genderphotos.vice.com/

If the goal is to increase visibility and acceptance of non-binary ppl, why would they otherize them by demanding “Please credit The Gender Spectrum Collection in your captions” as opposed to just crediting Vice.

Also, this doesn’t mean dogshit unless every one of these models was paid the same rate (or better) as a Getty/iStock model, and, of course there’s no mention of how they were compensated. Another slam dunk brought to you by Shane Smith and neo-liberalism

Is this entirely their own thing or is it in partnership with Getty/iStock?

it's about time somebody curated all the genders

I just looked and Getty is definitely doing their own thing:

https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/transgender?mediatype=photography&phrase=transgender&sort=mostpopular

abolish stock photos imo

eh

stock photos are fine, wider representation in stock photos is fine

Where I'm puzzled re: the Vice project is that the Getty photos I looked at all seem to encompass the same range of experience as the Vice photos with the added benefit of most of them not looking like glossy staged model shots. It feels like they are trying to fill a niche that's already been filled and calling themselves trailblazers. (Obv that position comes with a grain of salt because my default position re: Vice is "fuck them, everything they do has a shitty ulterior motive")

vice did some work

one of my friends is nonbinary and used to work for vice and... this ain't shit imo

then again self-awareness and ruthless self-interrogation aren't really the vice brand

Dan, how dare you be cynical about the place that published this

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/av759j/the-vice-v11n5

tbf I'm not going to click on that because I feel I've given Vice enough traffic today already

I really wish I hadn't clicked that!

how is that still up

just throwing a transphobia/misogyny/general awfulness content warning up

I would ask someone to repost the text but... I think I get the gist based on the reactions

right there in the third sentence too, really just had to hit that transphobic note immediately xp

yeah no if yer curious there are ways to get around giving them traffic and still witnessing the horror but there's no part of that that should get c+p'd in here

This is why I will forever dismiss the opinions of all the woke “they’re not like that anymore/that was before I got there” shitheads because this is literally what the brand WAS. Like not even in a “Henry Ford was an anti-Semite” way, because at least Henry Ford made cars. It’s like some neo-folk band going from full Nazi to “we sing about nature now.” Fuck off

Joanna Fuertes-Knight's newsletters are an interesting read wrt the behind-the-scenes ethics of Vice.

They tried to make her prove in court she's mixed-race as part of her unfair dismissal case.

I broke down and looked at the Google cache for that link

ugh

one of my friends is nonbinary and used to work for vice and... this ain't shit imo

i struggled to write that post in a way that didn't suggest you were giving them credit, sorry forks

it's cool, i think we all got the vibe here

I think that partymeister article just gave me an existential crisis.

defund vice

I would have hit them with a "this you?" but that thing forks posted is like three months old

fun fact: 75% of those partygoers were actively posting on the All Noize Dude Summertime Fun Board and Pickle Bar in 2004, and in 2020 100% of them are intellectual property lawyers with summer homes in New Hampshire.

famous property lawyer dr morbius

It’s like some neo-folk band going from full Nazi to “we sing about nature now.” Fuck off

― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, June 15, 2020 11:43 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

goole otm

fwiw i was trying to argue up there that music about forests is fascist. if you are writing songs about forests, you are making nazi music.

― goole, Friday, August 17, 2012 11:27 AM (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dang why you gotta do robert smith like that

His song was only about one forest, so he's safe.

Also, it was about a girl who happened to be in a forest, only she didn’t exist

so a ghost nazi

everybody knows anyone who plays a jazz chorus is a nazi.

i don't understand why that article exists. are there really people that are hip and literate that are actually that stupid? ... or is it supposed to be "ironic" ?

i don't understand why that article exists. are there really people that are hip and literate that are actually that stupid? ... or is it supposed to be "ironic" ?

― sarahell, Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:50 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Do you not remember the '00s?

correct answer is "Vice"

If you can remember the '00s, you weren't really there, at the Vice dorm party, snorting coke off a pasty guy's balls

I'll snort it wherever I find it baby

All Tomorrow's Pasty Guy's Balls

Do you not remember the '00s?

― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:15 AM (yesterday)

The 00's are kinda blurry tbh, spent just about the entire decade putting on warehouse shows -- I probably did it all wrong because I didn't read Vice

/Do you not remember the '00s?

― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:15 AM (yesterday)/

The 00's are kinda blurry tbh, spent just about the entire decade putting on warehouse shows -- I probably did it all wrong because I didn't read Vice

"I used to book '00s OAKLAND warehouse shows for the scene that produced Aids Wolf, Child Abuse and Twodeadsluts Onegoodfuck and I do *NOT* remember an era where it was cool to be edgy"

xp -- you do remember that year where I genuinely only heard the Beatles twice whereas you heard them constantly?

you do remember that two decades where you put on a total babe-in-the-woods act on ILX even though you're terminally online and live in a metropolitan area

and maybe you "stumbled across" copies of Vice because you were a dude in a band playing shows, whereas I was trying to get a bunch of dudes from a bunch of bands to actually load-in their gear, set it up, sound check, play their sets, strike their gear so the next band could play without everyone sitting around for 40 minutes while the band that just played walk through the crowd like gods among men, plus make sure the audience members who are hanging outside drinking alcohol illegally sold at our warehouse shows aren't being so conspicuous as to attract police attention ... and making sure there's toilet paper in the bathroom ... and making sure that we aren't out of bottled water .... and, you know ... being responsible and shit

you do remember that two decades where you put on a total babe-in-the-woods act on ILX even though you're terminally online and live in a metropolitan area

two decades? I've only been on ilx since like December 2008 -- that is uh ... one decade and change