We're talking about this on Jdt: International student from France is rejected for a CSQ (stepping stone to permanent residency in QC) bc one chapter of her doctoral thesis is in English.
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1378665/immigration-quebec-francaise-refusee-chapitre-doctorat-anglais-universite-laval
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Friday, 8 November 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link
English story: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50241254
I think I am actually a little gratified that CAQ is also discriminating against white francophones in STEM fields.
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Friday, 8 November 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link
I wonder what problem this is meant to solve
This is it exactly, and it's the overall incoherence of their approach that's baffling and alarming to me (made quite plain by the idiocy of the story you just posted).
I thought this was a good summary: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-immigration-peq-legault-1.5350730
― rob, Friday, 8 November 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link
Legault defends himself by saying that 90% of people on his FB feed support his program. Maybe the youngs have a point about boomers?: https://www.journaldequebec.com/2019/11/07/reforme-de-limmigration-sans-allies-legault-se-tourne-vers-facebook
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Friday, 8 November 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
as someone who is sympathetic to sub-state nationalism, separatism etc. because i myself am a separatist i just can't get over how petty quebec nationalism can be
― ت (jim in vancouver), Friday, 8 November 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link
This story seems wild - Rachel Notley got kicked out of the AB legislature after refusing to apologize for comments criticizing the govt house leader in the debate over Bill 22 (in which aiui the UCP govt wants to eliminate the position of Election Commissioner while the current occupant of said position in the middle of investigating the UCP???): https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/mobile/rachel-notley-kicked-out-of-legislative-assembly-1.4692936
“The leader of the opposition knows full well that she can’t make a statement like ‘the government house leader is misleading the house.’ She can apologize and withdraw,” Cooper said.
Why not, exactly?
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link
provincial parliaments, or legislative assemblies, I should say, in Canada are like the UK parliament theyre derived from, it's against parliamentary rules for members to offend the dignity of parliament with their speech which includes insults or accusing another member of lying
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 03:31 (four years ago) link
Thanks. I forget all the rules sometimes.
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 03:52 (four years ago) link
Hm: https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-sudden-switch-canada-backs-pro-palestine-un-resolution/
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Monday, 25 November 2019 00:59 (four years ago) link
Idk what that would mean in practical terms but it is good to see.
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Monday, 25 November 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link
I don't know about the rest of Canada but I'm taken aback by these results insofar as French reading comprehension in Quebec is frankly abysmal (granted, due to a wealth of complex historical factors):
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadian-high-students-among-top-performers-in-reading-according-to/
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 11:17 (four years ago) link
I don't know where you're getting that French reading comprehension is abysmal in Quebec.
I mean, this is totally anecdotal, but I happen to know a bunch of 11-12 years olds (my son's friends) and they all seem to be so much better at reading/writing than people were when I was that age, despite the fact that a significant amount of them have French as their second or third language. I get the feeling that the educational system has improved quite a bit in the last 20-30 years.
For older people, sure. There are definitely people my age and older who made it out high school while just barely being able to read. These tests are taken by today's 15 year olds though.
― silverfish, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link
I went to a 'good' francophone school in Montreal and we learned jack shit in French class. The amount of concessions teachers were willing to make just to get us to read YA fiction or conspicuously simplistic novels was utterly tragic. At the Cégep level teens are taught works of literature that their French (from France) counterparts are asked to read at the age of 12. And by the time you hit university, a disturbing amount of students (including in literature programs) are incapable of picking up on more than just a given work's most obvious meaning. Far too much time is spent just correcting the most basic of linguistic mistakes – and I'm not just talking about FSL here.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
The framing of the article is a little suspect. These results are actually a small drop for Canada compared to 2015, both in numerical score (524 to 520) and competitively. (Only Singapore beat us in 2015.) 2xp
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.cmec.ca/Publications/Lists/Publications/Attachments/365/PISA2015-CdnReport-EN.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj3jJ_l1ZnmAhVHq1kKHccFBD8QFjAKegQIBhAC&usg=AOvVaw2xPbM03k4kkEdXOnYCHaQ0&cshid=1575382753353
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link
(Young Québecois are killing illiteracy, clearly.)
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link
The sole logically consistent QED, of course.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link
High school teachers and elementary school staff in Ottawa striking tomorrow. Issues such as class size, mandatory e-learning (?), and high-need student services seem to be on the table in addition to wages : https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/osstf-announcement-harvey-bischof-1.5377227https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ottawa-parents-scramble-for-childcare-as-clock-ticks-toward-school-strike-on-wednesday
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 04:24 (four years ago) link
*in ONTARIO, not just Ottawa; typo
Something something secularism: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/catholic-quebec-california-françois-legault-gavin-newsom-1.5393170
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link
Reading international news, I keep marvelling at how the French can get 800,000 people on the streets and shut down Paris over (afaict fairly generous?) pensions and we can barely get a few thousand to protest Ford attacking core services for the vulnerable after getting elected on no platform.
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link
starting to think we actually should break up Canada into several smaller countries tbh
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link
canada too large
We'd still take after our neighbours, who make similar excuses for their quietism.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link
The Legault link didn't work so here it is.
(No, Simon, that's what they want you think!) xp
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link
Ugh, what a two-faced piece of shit. I guess it's consistent with his logic according to which all muslims are unassimilable foreigners.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
Tbf it's important to point out that much of this jingoistic, neo-theistic authoritarianism is cheered on by a genuine majority that is deathly afraid of heterogeneity and actively wishes to restore a premodern hierarchical model. If anything, this has historically been the norm, so we may have gotten used to a small miracle that is slowly coming to an end (or so I tell myself in my more pessimistic moments).
― pomenitul, Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link
I'm not inclined towards pessimism or defeatism generally and I know it's not useful but the notion of a robust left program that even the slightest majority of the voting public of this country could get behind just seems like such a distant dream at the moment. I try to remember that tremendous change can and does occur very quickly but it's fuckin dispiriting man!
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link
On the other hand, Quebec's social model is fairly solid when compared to those of most Western countries (tax rates are already quite high, even when set against France). It's just that we could do so much better and the push at the moment appears to be towards the exact opposite: hoarding by and for the few.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link
Scheer resigns
― silverfish, Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
holy shit
― jesus is zing (symsymsym), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link
Well hot damn. Let's see if they can get a proper terrible populist in.
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link
Can't tell whether this is a good or a bad thing. Leaning towards bad.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link
same tbh
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link
Guess he's gonna run for President instead
― jesus is zing (symsymsym), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link
I'm cool with that.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link
I haven't been following Conservative party discourse, has this been brewing for some time or is this some excuse they just pulled out of a hat?
BREAKING: Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer is resigning after sources tell Global News he used Conservative Party money to pay for the private-school education of his children #cdnpoli https://t.co/OOWQDsVy4y— Amanda Connolly (@amandacconn) December 12, 2019
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link
Global News has learned that Scheer is resigning after it was revealed he had been using Conservative Party money to pay for his children's private school education. #cdnpoli #CPC— Mercedes Stephenson (@MercedesGlobal) December 12, 2019
― jesus is zing (symsymsym), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link
if he'd become PM, would this have been a genuine scandal for more than a week? I can't tell anymore.
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link
Probably not. It comes across as a lame pretext to me.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link
I'm trying to think of something interesting to say, but I don't really know enough about the conservative party and have no idea in which direction they are heading. I feel like it could go either way (either doubling down on populism or trying to distance themselves from it). I'm guessing the main objective of the party for the next election is gaining votes in Ontario but I don't know what the best approach is for that.
― silverfish, Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link
I can't imagine them going less populist from here unless they're total morons (I know, I know)
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
Buck a beer for the whole country, simple as that.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link
in their last leadership election 141,000 members voted, scheer got 62,593, bernier got 55,544. think it was a ranked ballot situation. so the appetite for a far-right populist was fairly high (they also don't do one member one vote, they do it on a riding basis, with each riding worth the same number of points, regardless of population, this probably benefits rural votes - which i assume means it leans further right).
i would be unsurprised if they go for more of a bernier type next time - though maybe one who speaks english well
― #FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
jason kenney probably wishing he wasn't premier of alberta rn
― #FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
Bernier, who was at least 100% upfront about what he was after, was a total flop on his own, though. Seems more likely to me that they'll get a Ford-a-like who will be completely vague. (I haven't even noticed a difference in the price of beer!)
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
Is O'Leary free?
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
bernier was a flop but i would think that the idea of going third party and clearly damaging the chance of a conservative government by vote-splitting must play on voters' minds?
― #FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link
unfortunately, he remains unjailed
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link
bernier ran a really different campaign for the cons leadership than he did with the people's party
― jesus is zing (symsymsym), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link
one of those great libertarian goes alt right conversion stories
― jesus is zing (symsymsym), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link