US Politics, November 2019: These people are truly sick.

It's OK with me I guess that yet another insider book exposes Trump to full view as cruel, inept and a danger to the nation. It might erode his support by another half percent. But obviously what we're going to do about it is what really merits our attention, not a bunch more anecdotes showing what a repellent person he is. We know.

When in doubt, become the victim and/or plead insanity...

The investigation I conducted concerning 2016 Ukrainian collusion and corruption, was done solely as a defense attorney to defend my client against false charges, that kept changing as one after another were disproven.

— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) November 6, 2019

guess I shouldn't be surprised by Bolton being a cowardly shitbag

― Οὖτις, Thursday, November 7, 2019

I wonder if any of them will ever suffer consequences from ignoring subpoenas

Mick Mulvaney was just subpoenaed tonight

We changed the cover of Don Jr's book to make it a little more honest and put them up in Barnes and Noble. You're welcome, Junior! pic.twitter.com/ZZqfRP6Jhj

— Jason Selvig (@jasonselvig) November 7, 2019

We really are going to be seeing Don Jr's face on our TV sets for the next 40 years, aren't we

There's no way junior can continue this way without going to jail at some point

to visit his dad and uncle Rudy?

Nah, you're never going to see Don Jr again after Trump is out of office. He has nothing to offer the MAGA chuds once Daddy's out of power/dead.

I think that's extremely wishful thinking.

He is going to try and milk this for everything it's worth, and he has enough connections to make it happen. Meghan McCain is on television, and what has she got to offer anyone? But I still assume he is going to jail sooner rather than later.

Any trump will be toxic outside of conservative media after this presidency is over. You wouldn’t see jr or ivanka on the view imo

Ivanka is an entirely different ball of wax. She'll figure out a way to slither out of the slime, to the chagrin of everyone who's paying any actual attention rn.

She's blonde and has perfect teeth. She'll come out of this just fine.

same

According to the book, the president shouted at an aide who was scribbling in a notebook during a meeting, “What the (expletive) are you doing?” He added, “Are you (expletive) taking notes?” The aide apologized and closed the notebook...

well we can at least be certain Anonymous has seen The Wire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBdGOrcUEg8

Trump on the South Lawn tells reporters that he will release a second transcript, @HansNichols reports

— Geoff Bennett (@GeoffRBennett) November 8, 2019

but the first one was so perfect

lmao

The call was perfect. The transcript is being revised (read: set in Comic Sans) to meet that level of perfection.

I'm going to guess that he won't actually release anything and MSNBC hosts will be asking why for months

Needs more Sharpie

Any trump will be toxic outside of conservative media after this presidency is over. You wouldn’t see jr or ivanka on the view imo

― treeship., Friday, November 8, 2019 7:59 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I really can't predict which way this thing is gonna go. My gut is that Trumpism has activated/inflamed a significant bloc of the GOP base that is not easily going to embrace "reasonable" conservatism anytime soon. The whole project of conservatism for these people is owning libs and culture wars and macho posturing. They're gonna call anyone less vitrolic than Trump a cuck. Maybe the party can't find someone to capably fill that void but there's going to be a wide open lane for another insane carnival barker.

More likely is that the GOP, with its usual prestidigitation, will embrace Trumpism while pretending, like with Bush II, he never existed.

the Beltway press, with its usual cynicism, will help the party put its mask on.

It will be interesting to see how loving an embrace it will be if the GOP gets decimated at the polls in 2020. Can't wait to see how many people revise their history such that they were actually secret Mother Night-ing Never Trumpers all along.

Also, 'reasonable' conservatism is mostly that the rich should have all the money and everyone else should suffer and die, and that message isn't really that popular.

a significant bloc of the GOP base that is not easily going to embrace "reasonable" conservatism anytime soon. The whole project of conservatism for these people is owning libs and culture wars and macho posturing. They're gonna call anyone less vitrolic than Trump a cuck

For me this is one of the only pieces of potential good news on the horizon!

Of course there are many hideous people in the GOP. But none with Trumpian levels of id-based pulling power, AFAICT.

The chud gang is not going to embrace Pence 2024. You should hear them rail about how disappointed they were with RINO McCain and Milquetoast Romney. Yes, they are R partisans, but the energy is different. Post-Trump, they will probably still vote GOP in a knee-jerk fashion, but they will never again be as energized, or feel as validated, or be as loud about their tribal bullshit.

I want them to die frustrated and disappointed. If they do so while clutching their red hats, wondering what might have been if MACHO HE-MEN like themselves had prevailed, who cares. The rest of us will move forward without them.

one person i do worry about is Nikki Haley. in a weird spin on sexism i think she wouldn't be punished as much for not being a frothing-at-the-mouth loon as someone like Mittens or Kasich or whomever. I know the easy response is that the GOP would never support a woman at the national level but somehow I'm not convinced. plus she can tie herself to the Trump base if necessary because she served in his administration yet she managed to get out with her rep largely intact.

"Morning" Joe has already croaked his enthusiasm for her, proving his imbecility and gullibility and cynicism -- all at the same time.

none with Trumpian levels of id-based pulling power, AFAICT

The Rock

there's obv still gonna be awful Republican prez candidates but it'll really be hard to find anyone truly as awful a human as DT

they're all awful human beings if they believe being rich and white and male makes them God's chosen

there's obv still gonna be awful Republican prez candidates but it'll really be hard to find anyone truly as awful a human as DT

Gauntlet thrown down!

the President has been ordered by a judge to pay $2 mil fine for using charity funds for personal expenditures and it's barely a news story

if Obama had etc etc

I know the easy response is that the GOP would never support a woman at the national level

Son, ain't your elders ever made sure you heard tell of a lady that some called Sarah of Wasilla?

the one dude I worry about is that TX rep with the eye patch, Crenshaw or whatever. he's dumb as shit but the MAGA crowd loves him

yesterday I heard him going ham on someone asking if making govt. contractors sign anti-BDS pledges was against the 1st amendment

XP Yup. GOP kingmakers see Crenshaw as their AOC.

the President has been ordered by a judge to pay $2 mil fine for using charity funds for personal expenditures and it's barely a news story

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, November 8, 2019 11:20 AM (eleven minutes ago)

this would be a scandal of huge proportions at any other time with any other pres

plus he's pretty good at making idiotic bad faith arguments on Twitter which plays pretty well with the GOP base

Thanks for the PSL, @RollCall. pic.twitter.com/VEmFAZ25wu

— Rep. Dan Crenshaw (@RepDanCrenshaw) November 6, 2019

totally normal dude accepting drinks from random strangers who know what you do for a living

this would be a scandal of huge proportions at any other time with any other pres

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, November 8, 2019 11:33 AM (forty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It’s super weird. I guess people were saying repub voters going forward will want offensive candidates. I wonder if they’ll want their candidate to be a criminal from now on too.

When being a Republican is outlawed, only outlaws will be Republicans

Yeah for every headline that goes like "OMG Trump has ignored norms" or "OMG Trump has bucked tradition" or "OMG Trump is hollowing out the experienced Federal workforce" or "OMG Trump is undermining our institutions"? My reaction is, like DUH.

That's exactly what he said he was going to do and he's kept his promise.That was his stated purpose. And it was the motivation for most of the votes he got. Most of his voters will acknowledge that shredding norms was, and is, his selling point. It is a feature, not a bug.

It would be silly and pollyannaish to now be like, "oh, but we didn't want THOSE norms shredded! We only wanted you to shred THESE norms!"

i feel like burisma type jobs always exist for these failkids, even when dads are revealed as faildads.

or in this case feeldads

xp (sorry, my viewable string ended way up on milo z's djtj post so my post above was, super xp now)

also, thanks to current events/the wire/commentary for explaining what it means when the boss insists nobody take notes, and what it means when the boss tells a mark "talk to (fixer guy name), talk to him" over and over.