ils thread for general menswear and men's clothing ish

my own fashion ignorance aside, there are so many great lines in the zadie smith thing, when she summarizes a type of person & look i can picture exactly who she is talking about

think ive worn a shirt w a collar less than five times in colorado

those doc chelseas (i don't know why they don't have a men's version listed, I remember that they used to because my optometrist and I had a discussion about which ones they were) are really great because they have a nice matte shine and are hefty enough without having a pronounced rubber colored sole. I think the look of a chelsea depends on the toe shape and what trousers are worn with them. I tend to wear high water/stovepipe trousers or high rolled jeans with them. I've worn them to work in a corporate office and also to fine dining restaurants. But I think it matters more what each person is comfortable in. I also like pulling them on without having to deal with laces or zippers. I also was a huge Jam fan at one point in my life.

also, like your docs ourchase, marcos.

The entire time during the zadie piece I kept mentally resetting the people she was likely hanging around in each city because they were not my observations at all.

whoops ourchase ---> purchase
this purchase was collectively ourchase.

I just went back to reread the Zadie Smith piece and just noticed in the middle a link to another recent article "How Dr Martens Boots Became A Model-Off-Duty Staple."

Interestingly elastic sided boots are more work boots or farm boots than smart down here. RM Williams screems farmer in the city like a tattersall shirt would in London, so are worn by types who have never seen a cow but want the look. (Bankers wi Th a country weekender, politicians with big hats)

All the hipster girls seems to be wearing Redback and blundstones right now, in a similar way to yellow stitch DMs

thank you yerac!

i couldn't get past the first paragraph in the zadie smith piece but i never go out and i live in utah. i feel very distantly related to social fashion rules of any kind but on the other hand i'm increasingly drawn to gay as fuq trashion. i've been wearing the same black nasty pig jeans tucked into my black cowboy boots for weeks now. i've had two strangers ask me "where are you from?" out of the blue in the past month lol.

oh and a big-ass black carhartt fleece-lined twill jacket (gold zipper). people call me sir a lot and i roll my eyes haha

um that sounds like GREAT look

omg someone just posted this on fb. Maybe my advice was bad. Ha! ( I think the soles are super grippy!)

https://thehardtimes.net/culture/local-punk-spends-10th-winter-failing-realize-doc-martens-not-winter-boots/

Blundstone's chelsea boots are great in bad weather, and very comfortable for urban walking.

Enjoyed this Elvis Mitchell interview with Todd Snyder, and then looked at his website and really want half the sweaters on there.

https://www.kcrw.com/culture/shows/the-treatment/todd-snyder

big todd snyder fan here. very cool sweaters and sweatshirts, and i think their jeans and chinos are fantastic.

I don't typically use a term like "self care", but I seriously feel like updating my wardrobe has been necessary self care for me. I recently got these 3 shirts:

Banana Republic Italian Merino Crew-Neck Sweater

Uniqlo Flannel Checked Long-Sleeve Shirt

Lucky Brand Redwood Workwear Shirt

I've been kind of into Ledbury sweaters lately. I bought this one a couple months ago (cheaper than listed here):
https://www.ledbury.com/collections/sweaters/products/the-dark-grey-brewer-mock-neck-sweater

And it's so fucking soft and nice, and I feel like people respond to me differently when I wear it. I call it my "rich guy sweater."

I just ordered myself this one: https://www.ledbury.com/collections/sweaters/products/the-grey-heather-woodside-crew-neck-sweater

man alive, yesterday ^

it's christmas HAULZ time, where we return the crap that relatives got us and get the things we really want.

i got a SHIRT-JACKET this way from Aigle, it's this one:
https://www.aigle.com/uk/en/p/ruzuto-I848_poppy.html

snaps instead of buttons and SIDE POCKETS. this guy looks pretty swish in it but i am planning on it being my sawing wood outside etc shirt. it needs to get a little roughed up imo.

poking around the website Aigle apparently do an implausibly comprehensive line of hunting gear: https://www.aigle.com/uk/en/vetement-chasse

shots fired, Barbour! literally!!

man alive, yesterday ^

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 January 2020 11:58 (five hours ago) link

I didn't understand this post - is it missing a word?

i was just making clear to everyone who that was a picture of i.e. Rich Guy Man Alive

ah ok, lol

yes, that is in fact a photo of me ahem

partially out of curiosity, partially out of frustration at not being able to find a pair of NON stretch jeans that i like, i bought a pair of black levis 501 shrink-to-fit for cheap and did the whole soaking and drying routine. not really having ever worn 'raw denim' and seeing this stiff pair of jeans arrive, i did not have any real expectation that this was going to work out. but i soaked them in hot water, hung them to dry, and now i've been wearing them for a week now and this is kind of fun? they are breaking in quickly and already feel extremely comfortable, like i have a custom-fit pair of jeans. as a very thin and small person i can't tell you how nice it is to wear something that feels like it fits me properly. i ignored most of the advice and did NOT size up as much as it is recommended - there are a lot of hilarious "before and after" 501 photos on reddit and bad menswear blogs that made me think the sizing and shrinking guidelines are trash, and i also figured jeans stretch out so much anyways over time. the first day these were pretty tight fitting but that's all it took really.

but really though it was depressing trying on over a dozen pairs of jeans this past month, most of which fit and looked great, that i ultimately had to return because of the ubiquity of stretch denim now. i have no fundamental "raw denim purist" reaction to it in any way, it's just that i have trouble wearing many things that aren't 100% cotton, it can feel suffocating to me. some kind of sensory thing.

there's something incredible reassuring to me about the starchy feel of thick cotton. whether it's good jeans or a clean stiff oxford shirt or a towel just off the clothesline.

i too like pure cotton

i have fancy japanese denim jeans and then also some regular levis and the levis just feel like such a freakin joke all super light weight and stretchy smh

I picked up a pair of Levis "premium" and a pair of Levis "made and crafted" in a sale. The "premium" denim def feels nicer and is a little sturdier but still p soft. The "made and crafted" pair has a slightly more rigid "these are real denim jeans" kind of feel to it. Not 100% sure what each of these labels connotes though.

I’ve probably said this here before but I have a friend who works at Levi’s and she says the jeans they make for Europe and Japan are much higher quality than the US pairs

I don't know how I've ended up in this situation but I'm now deliberating over tracking down the perfect white t shirt. Ridiculous, but it's so that it goes with a sweatshirt I bought recently with an interesting wide, raised neck. it needs the right flash of white to work. I'd be conscious wearing a white t on its own though, so God forbid I'd have to take the jumper off in public

I don't know how I've ended up in this situation but I'm now deliberating over tracking down the perfect white t shirt. Ridiculous, but it's so that it goes with a sweatshirt I bought recently with an interesting wide, raised neck. it needs the right flash of white to work. I'd be conscious wearing a white t on its own though, so God forbid I'd have to take the jumper off in public

if it's perfect then you're good though, right?

if you find the right post, submit it twice imo

yeah it's not often i nail these things.

and Tracer, exactly - in an ideal world I'd be very happy wearing it just as a shirt

https://www.amazon.com/kirkland-signature-white-t-shirts/s?k=kirkland+signature+white+t+shirts

Just pay the shipping imo. Absolutely the best white tshirts outside of spending an arm and a leg on fitted muscle bullshit. And they hold up for YEARS.

IDK if they've changed them since, but the last kirkland white tees I bought were overly thick and weird

The canonical "perfect white t shirt" is Velva Sheen, right?

Kirkland ts are legit bad ,better than fruit of the loom I guess but that's not a high barrier

uniqlo supima cotton are my current goto

I have a lot of questions about deodorant (specific brands?) causing the underarms of white undershirts to get really discolored and impossible to remove. But maybe this should be a larger internet search. Or maybe I should just throw all of his out and buy new ones. Are the kirkland ones too thick to be an undershirt?

deodorant is bad and smells bad imo

Yeah, I detest the smell of it. Plus, I am asian (have that weird gene) so never had to wear it.

Spouse can't give it up

http://nymag.com/strategist/article/best-mens-white-t-shirt-according-to-men.html

Generally valid. I guess I rep for kirklands because I also tuck mine in (as undershirts) and I personally don’t mind the collar

I kinda stopped wearing undershirts some time ago. No one has noticed or cared; also my dress shirts are unbesmirched, armpitwise, as far as I can tell.

Your armpits may vary, of course, but I definitely seem to sweat less when I wear one shirt instead of two.

question: is the wearing of “undershirts” or not a US/UK divide. i associated it v much with the US. i myself will *very* rarely wear a tee under a shirt being more likely to stick a jumper on top.

i say US/UK tho suspect it may be europe/rest of world thing.

or possibly a “me v rest of world” thing idk.

I'm American and dislike wearing undershirts